therhydler

therhydler

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It's what I will never fucking understand in humans. Valuing life above everything, even if it is a life of pure agony. I just remembered this story. I was at a friends house and I found a severely injured bird in the garden. A cat had toyed around with it. I can't stand looking at animals suffering, it makes me go crazy. Luckily the neighbor was a vet. She took the bird and checked its injuries. She said it will definitely never be able to fly and will almost certainly die. And what does everyone suggest? .... why not keep it in a box and see if it gets better? wtf. they were very intent on doing this. Luckily the vet was in her right senses and gently pressed on the birds neck until it passed. It happened quickly and peacefully. Why people think death is absolutely the worst thing in the world and worse than a life of suffering I will never be able to fathom. The only explanation I see is that they have not suffered enough to understand this. lucky bastards
 
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I totally agree with you on this. Also, I'll never understand pet owners who put their pets through unnecessary suffering just because they can't cope with their death. Like, I've heard of cats and dogs going thru chemo when they have cancer. Or prolonging their suffering through other horrible diseases and injuries. The kindest thing you can do to an animal in pain is for the vet to painlessly put it to sleep. Death is a release from pain and suffering, not something to avoid at all costs.
 
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therhydler

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I totally agree with you on this. Also, I'll never understand pet owners who put their pets thru unnecessary suffering just because they can't cope with their death. Like, I've heard of cats and dogs going thru chemo when they have cancer. Or prolonging their suffering thru other horrible diseases and injuries. The kindest thing you can do to animal in pain is for the vet to painlessly put it to sleep. Death is a release from pain and suffering, not something to avoid at all costs.

Yes! my girlfriend's cat was really sick for years. in the last year it looked like a skeleton because it would vomit everything it ate. Nothing helped. It tortured me to look at that cat suffering, but my girlfriend was so attached to it she kept on hoping it would get better... I was afraid to tell her that she should just put it to sleep... in the end she did though. I would have done it sooner...
 
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Yes! my girlfriend's cat was really sick for years. in the last year it looked like a skeleton because it would vomit everything it ate. It tortured me to look at that cat suffering, but my girlfriend was so attached to it she kept on hoping it would get better... I was afraid to tell her that she should just put it to sleep... in the end she did though. I would have done it sooner...
Stories like this horrify and anger me. If you really love your pet, let the vet give the poor creature N before it starts wasting away once it's sick. Likewise, a friend of mine kept her dog with dementia alive for at least 2 years longer than necessary. By the end, the dog was just a shell of itself whimpering in pain and walking in circles. It took her TWO YEARS to get it put to sleep.
 
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Stories like this horrify and anger me. If you really love your pet, let the vet give the poor creature N before it starts wasting away once it's sick. Likewise, a friend of mine kept her dog with dementia alive for at least 2 years longer than necessary. By the end, the dog was just a shell of itself whimpering in pain and walking in circles. It took her TWO YEARS to get it put to sleep.

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I think it's an inability to understand another's suffering and clinging to hope. I think most people see someone or an animal in pain and immediately want to help and hope for the best and fail to see the line between what's realistic and what they want to happen, and consequently downplay their suffering and keep trying to fix and help even when it's futile and doing more harm than good
 
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The good thing is that it lasts only 70-80 years (if you dont take action).

What if we were like turtles, living for 200+ years?
 
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I have a 23 (twenty-three) year old cat that I honestly don't know what to do with.
She had arthritis on her hips some 3 years back, we took her to the vet and gave her some medicine and she seemed to be relatively fine afterwards.
I'm not home often, but when I am I see her walking around, eating, purring and meowing more or less fine and I wouldn't say she's in too much pain. However when I last came back one week ago her fur was all matted because she evidently can't groom herself anymore and nobody could be arsed to brush her. I had to comb away an entire plastic bag full of shed fur.
She looks fine now, for being the feline equivalent of a nonagenarian, but the fact that she might be living her last years (months?) of her life in excruciating pain kinda haunts me because I know my dad doesn't care and my mother and sister would never have the will to put her down.
All I'm saying with this blog post is that it's sometimes hard for someone who's spent a considerable amount of time with a pet to even entertain the thought that they might be suffering and need to be put down. I know it's wrong, but I don't feel like blaming those people for hesitating to make that call.
 
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I have a 23 (twenty-three) year old cat that I honestly don't know what to do with.
She had arthritis on her hips some 3 years back, we took her to the vet and gave her some medicine and she seemed to be relatively fine afterwards.
I'm not home often, but when I am I see her walking around, eating, purring and meowing more or less fine and I wouldn't say she's in too much pain. However when I last came back one week ago her fur was all matted because she evidently can't groom herself anymore and nobody could be arsed to brush her. I had to comb away an entire plastic bag full of shed fur.
She looks fine now, for being the feline equivalent of a nonagenarian, but the fact that she might be living her last years (months?) of her life in excruciating pain kinda haunts me because I know my dad doesn't care and my mother and sister would never have the will to put her down.
All I'm saying with this blog post is that it's sometimes hard for someone who's spent a considerable amount of time with a pet to even entertain the thought that they might be suffering and need to be put down. I know it's wrong, but I don't feel like blaming those people for hesitating to make that call.
Sorry to be the one to say it but ... letting an animal suffer just because the owner can't let go is profoundly selfish. I have no sympathy for anyone hesitating making the call. Seeing pets in preventable pain makes me sick. I had to convince my mom to let me get our cat put down cuz he was literally a walking zombie. I'd been away from home and had a shock when I saw him. Kidney failure.
 
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I have a 23 (twenty-three) year old cat that I honestly don't know what to do with.
She had arthritis on her hips some 3 years back, we took her to the vet and gave her some medicine and she seemed to be relatively fine afterwards.
I'm not home often, but when I am I see her walking around, eating, purring and meowing more or less fine and I wouldn't say she's in too much pain. However when I last came back one week ago her fur was all matted because she evidently can't groom herself anymore and nobody could be arsed to brush her. I had to comb away an entire plastic bag full of shed fur.
She looks fine now, for being the feline equivalent of a nonagenarian, but the fact that she might be living her last years (months?) of her life in excruciating pain kinda haunts me because I know my dad doesn't care and my mother and sister would never have the will to put her down.
All I'm saying with this blog post is that it's sometimes hard for someone who's spent a considerable amount of time with a pet to even entertain the thought that they might be suffering and need to be put down. I know it's wrong, but I don't feel like blaming those people for hesitating to make that call.
Yeah, I know what you mean. I kept my own dog alive when I should've had her put to sleep sooner. Luckily I came to my senses and did it after a couple of months rather than years like some people mentioned in this thread have. I loved my dog and I couldn't bear to see her deteriorating anymore after her medication stopped working and it baffles me to hear how people let their pets live for years with terrible quality of life
 
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Othermind

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Sorry to be the one to say it but ... letting an animal suffer just because the owner can't let go is profoundly selfish. I have no sympathy for anyone hesitating making the call. Seeing pets in preventable pain makes me sick. I had to convince my mom to let me get our cat put down cuz he was literally a walking zombie. I'd been away from home and had a shock when I saw him. Kidney failure.
You're not wrong, but sometimes it's hard to gauge how much pain they're in.
When she had arthritis my cat had a sore spot above her hind legs and would hardly walk, now she doesn't have it anymore and moves around fine. Also the vet assured me her kidneys and liver are just fine and I've seen no evidence to the contrary...I don't know, I would like to take her to the vet for a checkup but I'm never home and my family would never do that.
 
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I have a 23 (twenty-three) year old cat that I honestly don't know what to do with.
She had arthritis on her hips some 3 years back, we took her to the vet and gave her some medicine and she seemed to be relatively fine afterwards.
I'm not home often, but when I am I see her walking around, eating, purring and meowing more or less fine and I wouldn't say she's in too much pain. However when I last came back one week ago her fur was all matted because she evidently can't groom herself anymore and nobody could be arsed to brush her. I had to comb away an entire plastic bag full of shed fur.
She looks fine now, for being the feline equivalent of a nonagenarian, but the fact that she might be living her last years (months?) of her life in excruciating pain kinda haunts me because I know my dad doesn't care and my mother and sister would never have the will to put her down.
All I'm saying with this blog post is that it's sometimes hard for someone who's spent a considerable amount of time with a pet to even entertain the thought that they might be suffering and need to be put down. I know it's wrong, but I don't feel like blaming those people for hesitating to make that call.

I understand, it can be really hard. I'm sorry about your cat :(
 
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Pegasus

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You're not wrong, but sometimes it's hard to gauge how much pain they're in.
When she had arthritis my cat had a sore spot above her hind legs and would hardly walk, now she doesn't have it anymore and moves around fine. Also the vet assured me her kidneys and liver are just fine and I've seen no evidence to the contrary...I don't know, I would like to take her to the vet for a checkup but I'm never home and my family would never do that.
At this point only the vet can gauge her quality of life. Sadly owners need to accept that aging and dying is part of the natural process. I hope she's not suffering since she's not being taken to the vet.
 
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At this point only the vet can gauge her quality of life. Sadly owners need to accept that aging and dying is part of the natural process. I hope she's not suffering since she's not being taken to the vet.
Yeah I know I'll beg my mom to do so after new year.
 
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wanttodie

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I totally agree with you just let me die
 
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I agree. My grandma has Alzheimer's. She doesn't remember anyone, maybe my grandpa but just barely. Every 5 min she asks what is she going to do next. She looks at the food on her plate and asks what's she supposed to do with it. And she's only gonna get worse. She even said one day that she wants to die. I don't know why can't we let her go. I can't imagine living like that. I just wish she dies sleeping, I know she wants to.
 
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I agree. My grandma has Alzheimer's. She doesn't remember anyone, maybe my grandpa but just barely. Avery 5 min she asks what is she going to do next. She looks at the food on her plate and asks what's she supposed to do with it. And she's only gonna get worse. She even said one day that she wants to die. I don't know why can't we let her go. I can't imagine living like that. I just wish she dies sleeping, I know she wants to.
Yeah, I have a close family member with Alzheimer's too. Day by day she's declining so much that she doesn't recognise her own husband or home. Her identity and memories are being stripped from her piece by piece. She keeps saying that she wants to leave, yet her body hangs on.

There should be euthanasia offered to people in cases like this that don't involve costly trips to Dignitas.
 
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The good thing is that it lasts only 70-80 years (if you dont take action).

What if we were like turtles, living for 200+ years?
That would suck if we were turtles. Anyways, with all these stupid life prolonging technologies and treatment out there (just to line the pockets of healthcare workers and hospice care workers as well as hospital, medical industry), it doesn't matter if the patient suffers as long as they can keep them alive as long as possible. I've seen someone who is age 95 and still living, but needed help getting around, is partially deaf, bedridden, and what not. It's so fucked up the way that people are kept alive until their natural end. I know I don't want to be the person who lives to 70, 80, or shit, even 90+ and having to be taken care of by some healthcare professionals or something. I'm 28 and I know if my life gets unbearable, I'd rather save myself all the agony and pain and just ctb.
 
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Deivis

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I have a 23 (twenty-three) year old cat that I honestly don't know what to do with.
She had arthritis on her hips some 3 years back, we took her to the vet and gave her some medicine and she seemed to be relatively fine afterwards.

Btw, you can try nitrogen on her. And it's not a murder. Its an act of mercy and grace.
I've had a pug for 12 years and when she started to go blind and limp, we called the vet to put her down.
The guy in his mid-30's came to our house. Very compassionate person, gave her a shot of some barbiturate drug and took her away. I couldnt hold my tears so I was in another room, incapable of watching that. At least, she didnt suffer too much.
 
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Out of curiosity, does anyone know of a culture that practiced euthanasia at any point in history? On people I mean. I know the Japanese had witnessed, forced suicides with swords and stuff for honor I think.
 
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