BitterlyAlive

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This is likely heavy projection, but for as long as I can remember 95% of music I hear (various genres) sounds either sad/wistful to me or like the person is having a breakdown.

Pointless post but maybe someone can relate?
 
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Mr2005

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No it sounds to me like someone spitting in my face
 
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I dont get it . Are you suggesting that every music has a hidden sadness inside it :O ?
 
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Cherrypea

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I also see / hear sadness when it's not really there, our brains are sad and it's a projection I guess.
Oh I re read your post and you said about projection anyways.
 
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Oh absolutely. My brain likes to do it with shows I watch and stuff even more. I read depression and choosing to live as themes in shows that really aren't even about those things
 
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The worst thing is recently my young adult daughter is the happiest she's been for years and doing lovely (within covid guidelines) stuff with her boyfriend and I'm finding it incredibly sad for some reason.
 
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I mean we truly were put on this earth to suffer if all our brains can comprehend is sadness and suffering. To the point where we can't even hear the happiness in happy music, our brains can't even comprehend a good feeling.

I've been told that I'm "choosing to be sad". The question is, why? How can I prefer sadness over happiness? Maybe I've just never associated happiness with safety, and my fearful brain chooses the sadness that is comfortable. But that's not really true either. I'm never comfortable. I'm constantly on edge, nervous.

Such mysteries. I approach happy people with the attitude of learning what they do to achieve what they want. However, I quickly make even the happiest people miserable and anxious with my mere presence. They respond with hate, because I took away their happiness. I never get any answers from them, as it appears they have no answers, only questions for me and commands for me. The solution, I believe, is to stop thinking.

But how do we stop thinking?
 
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BitterlyAlive

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@I_love_to_bake What a wonderful post. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
I mean we truly were put on this earth to suffer if all our brains can comprehend is sadness and suffering. To the point where we can't even hear the happiness in happy music, our brains can't even comprehend a good feeling.
This hit really hard, especially the last sentence. Very poignant. If it's okay, I may even quote that in a future therapy session - it's up to you. I'll just say "I literally can't hear the happiness in what is meant to be happy music. Everything is painted over with a pervasive sadness."

And to answer the last question... Literally the only way I can quiet this shit is when I'm heavily dissociated. I literally pray for it sometimes.
The worst thing is recently my young adult daughter is the happiest she's been for years and doing lovely (within covid guidelines) stuff with her boyfriend and I'm finding it incredibly sad for some reason.
Yes, it's horrible how far the sadness goes. You're not a bad person or a bad mother for feeling this way. It's not your fault.
Oh absolutely. My brain likes to do it with shows I watch and stuff even more. I read depression and choosing to live as themes in shows that really aren't even about those things
Me too. Depression took over my life years ago. It invades every single little nook and cranny.
I dont get it . Are you suggesting that every music has a hidden sadness inside it :O ?
Perhaps it does. I think it's more likely that I'm projecting my own suffering though.
 
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@BitterlyAlive Yeah I was diagnosed with DID. I don't really feel anything much. I love to dissociate thats why I do it like all the time
 
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Happiness can feel really unsafe to me, too. At that point, I'm just waiting for things to get worse again, and I'll self-sabotage and send myself into a depressive spiral if I get too uncomfortable
 
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Happiness can feel really unsafe to me, too. At that point, I'm just waiting for things to get worse again, and I'll self-sabotage and send myself into a depressive spiral if I get too uncomfortable
Now THAT is a mood. Even if I thought I could be happy, I'm sure I'd self sabotage it too.
 
watsonsmith

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For me happiness was always associated with feelings of guilt. It's a pattern deeply rooted in my childhood when I had to pretend I am always busy, studying or otherwise not pursuing things that brought me joy as justification for not seeing my father's new family and pretend like I am a happy part of it. I then kept repeating this pattern in my adult relationships and chose partners that I wasn't happy with just so I can put myself in this spiral of misery and guilt when I was trying to avoid them. This of course prevented me from enjoying anything.

Whilst I feel deeply sorry some of you are going through similar issues, it is also somehow comforting to know we are not alone.

There is this person somewhere in me who'd want to enjoy life, but I always kept suppressing it because I felt like I don't deserve it or because showing I am enjoying something on my own would mean I have time to spend time with people that hurt me. The misery and pain have always been a justification for not exposing myself to them as much as I otherwise could have.

The only things I found are my own were eating disorders and then my obsession with the gym fueled by listening to death metal and other heavy, depressing music. So back to the topic – I've always simply avoided music that is cheerful and positive, it's as if it was recorded on another planet for peoples I am not a part of.
 
EssenceFocus

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Sometimes I experience similar things. The definition of a projection is very fitting.

When we are really sad, we project this feeling towards everyone and everything. Regardless how good something is, we will see the negative sites of it.
I mean we truly were put on this earth to suffer if all our brains can comprehend is sadness and suffering. To the point where we can't even hear the happiness in happy music, our brains can't even comprehend a good feeling.

I've been told that I'm "choosing to be sad". The question is, why? How can I prefer sadness over happiness? Maybe I've just never associated happiness with safety, and my fearful brain chooses the sadness that is comfortable. But that's not really true either. I'm never comfortable. I'm constantly on edge, nervous.

Such mysteries. I approach happy people with the attitude of learning what they do to achieve what they want. However, I quickly make even the happiest people miserable and anxious with my mere presence. They respond with hate, because I took away their happiness. I never get any answers from them, as it appears they have no answers, only questions for me and commands for me. The solution, I believe, is to stop thinking.

But how do we stop thinking?

You are probably used of being sad. It's your normal "working state". So you subconsciously choose sadness. When your perception of life is very negative, then you will create more and more negative things.
One problem, as you said, is constantly thinking. I am also a very much thinking person. Thinking about the same topic over and over again won't do anything, but to reinforce the problem. The more energy you invest into this topic, the more energy the problem receives and the mountain infront of you gets bigger and bigger.
I found, that doing a STOP is the best thing.
If you recognize you are in a thinking spirale about the same topic, then STOP. Do something different. I know it's difficult, you want to find the solution for the problem. But the solution may only come with time, not with thinking.
The moment we leave the sad emotional state, we are more open to new directions.

I would encourage you to stop watching other people, how they achieve their goals. All the YouTube videos, where successfull people explain, how to reach your wishes don't really help. I know what I write about, I watched many of them:))
Simply relax, distract yourself with something different and life on auto-pilot. The time you have a more positive general percepion, the easier everything will get.
But stopping the thoughts and relaxing is the hardest part of everything.

I feel with you and I hope it was a bit understandable.:hug:
 
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