Julian St. John's death: Suffocating using only a plastic bag while in a mental hospital?

[alexithymia]

I often find myself reading about successful suicide attempts. I suppose I consider it research for when my time comes. The relevant part of the article that piqued my interest:

The "Young and the Restless" star's 24-year-old son Julian St. John killed himself in November while getting treatment at La Casa Mental Health Hospital in Long Beach. He was found dead in a bathroom with a plastic bag over his head.

What is known about this method? I feel like it has to be quite painful and that it has a low success rate.

 

[Stan]

Death by CO2 poisoning. Not peaceful at all.

 

[alexithymia]

Death by CO2 poisoning. Not peaceful at all.

Excuse my confusion, but where does the CO2 come in to play here? I thought that required the burning of some sort of fuel like gasoline or charcoal.

 

[Stan]

Put a bag on your head, tie it, you will eventually only have CO2 in the bag through your own respiration.

 

[Dawn0071111]

I often find myself reading about successful suicide attempts. I suppose I consider it research for when my time comes. The relevant part of the article that piqued my interest:


What is known about this method? I feel like it has to be quite painful and that it has a low success rate.

OMG!!!! I know the place "La CASA" I knew someone there and visited once. It is a hellhole. Everything that mental illness movies are made of.... Anyone there would try to kill themselves. Those places are a travesty and mockery of anyone who is hurting because of mental illness to put them in a place of torture... jeez.. the mental health profession is still in the damn dark ages..... poor thing... not that he died but that he died THERE.

Excuse my confusion, but where does the CO2 come in to play here? I thought that required the burning of some sort of fuel like gasoline or charcoal.

Common mistake C0= Carbon Monixide - deadly gas C02= Carbon Dioxide - the stuff we breathe out and feeds plants :)
OMG!!!! I know the place "La CASA" I knew someone there and visited once. It is a hellhole. Everything that mental illness movies are made of.... Anyone there would try to kill themselves. Those places are a travesty and mockery of anyone who is hurting because of mental illness to put them in a place of torture... jeez.. the mental health profession is still in the damn dark ages..... poor thing... not that he died but that he died THERE.

 

[alexithymia]

Put a bag on your head, tie it, you will eventually only have CO2 in the bag through your own respiration.

Clearly I haven't done enough research on asphyxiation. Thank you, Stan.

I feel like an idiot. Duh. Of course we exhale CO2.

OMG!!!! I know the place "La CASA" I knew someone there and visited once. It is a hellhole. Everything that mental illness movies are made of.... Anyone there would try to kill themselves. Those places are a travesty and mockery of anyone who is hurting because of mental illness to put them in a place of torture... jeez.. the mental health profession is still in the damn dark ages..... poor thing... not that he died but that he died THERE.


Common mistake C0= Carbon Monixide - deadly gas C02= Carbon Dioxide - the stuff we breathe out and feeds plants :)
OMG!!!! I know the place "La CASA" I knew someone there and visited once. It is a hellhole. Everything that mental illness movies are made of.... Anyone there would try to kill themselves. Those places are a travesty and mockery of anyone who is hurting because of mental illness to put them in a place of torture... jeez.. the mental health profession is still in the damn dark ages..... poor thing... not that he died but that he died THERE.

Thanks for your edit, Dawn. I totally confused CO and CO2.

 

[Dawn0071111]

Clearly I haven't done enough research on asphyxiation. Thank you, Stan.

I feel like an idiot. Duh. Of course we exhale CO2.


Thanks for your edit, Dawn. I totally confused CO and CO2.

I get that one mixed up a lot too...lol. been corrected on the form a few times ..lmao

 

[gingerplum]

Keeping a plastic bag over your head requires an incredible, superhuman amount of determination, and probably medication, too, like benzos.

I tried this once at the lowest point in my life. I desperately wanted to die, but you can't imagine how uncomfortable suffocation is until you try it.

 

[woxihuanni]

It's heart-breaking how desperation drives people to extremely painful methods. This is what comes of not respecting people's wishes to just fucking quiet on their own terms and peacefully.

 

[AlmostFinished]

Only with a bag on his head? I find it relatively easy and I would not mind trying it. It is scary that the SI caused him to remove the bag after brain damage.

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