cowbain

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I just need someone to listen. Not to half heartedly listen and project themselves onto me. To genuinely listen to me, to try and understand my pain, to believe me when I say what I need. Why is that so hard for people? It just goes to show how gross the human race is.
 
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I just need someone to listen. Not to half heartedly listen and project themselves onto me. To genuinely listen to me, to try and understand my pain, to believe me when I say what I need. Why is that so hard for people? It just goes to show how gross the human race is.

You're right. Most people won't take the time to listen. If you find someone who does, then you found a good person. Or, you can force then to listen.
 
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teach me empathy
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I just need someone to listen. Not to half heartedly listen and project themselves onto me. To genuinely listen to me, to try and understand my pain, to believe me when I say what I need. Why is that so hard for people?

I don't think it's possible to force people to listen. Even with therapists I feel like they never really listen to what I say and it's like they think I can just make it out of this hellhole and do fine but the truth is I can't. At least not without help... proper help.
 
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WhiteDespair

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I don't think it's possible to force people to listen. Even with therapists I feel like they never really listen to what I say and it's like they think I can just make it out of this hellhole and do fine but the truth is I can't. At least not without help... proper help.

There are good therapists out there who will listen, listen hard and give you amazing insights.

Maybe you can find that help? Maybe you can find a mentor? Maybe you'll find someone to drop a rope down into you hellhole?

Best wishes.
 
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I'm listening.
 
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I just need someone to listen. Not to half heartedly listen and project themselves onto me. To genuinely listen to me, to try and understand my pain, to believe me when I say what I need. Why is that so hard for people? It just goes to show how gross the human race is.
I'm listening. No judgement. What's going on?
 
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I just need someone to listen. Not to half heartedly listen and project themselves onto me. To genuinely listen to me, to try and understand my pain, to believe me when I say what I need. Why is that so hard for people? It just goes to show how gross the human race is.


GAWD yes!
 
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cowbain

teach me empathy
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I'm listening.
I'm listening. No judgement. What's going on?

I struggle talking about myself but I do want help so please bare with me.

So far my life in general has been pretty shit but for the past 3ish years everything has been especially hard. I come from a very abusive family with narcissists as parents, and deep down I've always known something was off but I didn't realize the extent of how awful they are until I was like 16. Despite that growing up I always did well academically and even got accepted into early college at 14. But that year was when I got my first obsession and as a result everything just spiraled out of control. I didn't know it at the time but that was ocd. I couldn't go to school or function at all (im still not). I did try while also going to therapy and my therapist told me that my environment was a big factor as to why my mental state was so bad. I guess being repeatedly raped as a child and having to deal with my family not being supportive, coupled with years of neglect & abuse was finally taking a toll on me. The therapist I was seeing had to change companies so then I was left without a therapist. So much has happened over the span of 3 years (different antidepressants, different therapists, family therapy, realizing my parents were narcissists, mental hospitals, heartbreak, cps & being in the system, etc.) ... and most of it was spent in complete isolation. The isolation has changed since this year but my life is still so isolating. Throughout all of this I've dealt with feeling suicidal yet I'm still here and I don't really know why. Even writing this out, I feel in a way like I didn't explain myself good enough, but maybe that's just the anxiety/ocd talking. I have noticed my memory & cognitive function has gotten significantly worse in these 3 years and that scares me so much. I just don't know what to do or how to fix my life anymore. I know the 1st step should be getting away from my parents. It's just hard when they purposefully isolate me, refuse to teach me how to drive, and with how bad my mental health is everything just seems impossible. It's so discouraging being around abusive people 24/7. Even if I'm away from my parents I still risk the chance of running into shitty people. People who will see that I've been abused and use that to justify trying to take advantage of me.. that even happens to me now on the internet. Or people that will see my mental health and judge me for being that way, along with judging the life circumstances that I had no control over. For them it's easier to judge because they can't even fathom being in my shoes or someone similar. It's not just people, it's society and the media too...The societal pressures/expectations that I couldn't fit in with because of how unconventional and traumatic my life has been. I don't even know if my life is salvageable anymore. I feel like a broken shell of a person. And nothing seems worth it if I'm just going to be alone forever. Fuck, even if I had people idek if it'd be worth it then. I don't partake in my hobbies or interests anymore because even that exhausts me and is tiring. I don't really feel emotions anymore, other than intense sensations & negative emotions. I can't feel pleasure anymore because of anhedonia. So much shit is wrong with my life, that doesn't even really scratch the surface, but in order to talk about everything I'd probably be here writing the entire day. And I'm tired of people disregarding my experiences and my feelings. I'm tired of being compared to others and told that I'm weak for being this way, and for being suicidal. I hate being so complicated that I'm not valid enough for others to listen to me or help.
 
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Do you like to read? There's a book I think maybe you could benefit from reading. I know I have. It's not an easy read, but for me 100% worth it. It's called "The Body Keeps The Score".

It's about Complex PTSD, and how some folks have at least partially been able to recover. It's not a self-help book, and does not tell the reader what to do, but educates about causes, effects, and possible ways of healing. Evidence-based, factual, made me feel less alone and more understood. Helped me stop blaming myself, and gave me ideas for how to move forward.

Obviously I do still plan to ctb, after my dog goes, but in the meantime this book has been a comfort, a challenge, and a source of strength for me.

Knowledge is power, innit.
 
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OMG I'm such an asshole. I just wrote down this big lost post to you and I thought it was on the wrong thread and I deleted it. Whoo! Ok. My hand and arm are killing me right now but I am going to write you back again everything I wrote you later. I promise.
 
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Notf1xable

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Oct 19, 2019
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Do you like to read? There's a book I think maybe you could benefit from reading. I know I have. It's not an easy read, but for me 100% worth it. It's called "The Body Keeps The Score".

It's about Complex PTSD, and how some folks have at least partially been able to recover. It's not a self-help book, and does not tell the reader what to do, but educates about causes, effects, and possible ways of healing. Evidence-based, factual, made me feel less alone and more understood. Helped me stop blaming myself, and gave me ideas for how to move forward.

Obviously I do still plan to ctb, after my dog goes, but in the meantime this book has been a comfort, a challenge, and a source of strength for me.

Knowledge is power, innit.
That's an awesome book recommendation.
 
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cowbain

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Do you like to read? There's a book I think maybe you could benefit from reading. I know I have. It's not an easy read, but for me 100% worth it. It's called "The Body Keeps The Score".

It's about Complex PTSD, and how some folks have at least partially been able to recover. It's not a self-help book, and does not tell the reader what to do, but educates about causes, effects, and possible ways of healing. Evidence-based, factual, made me feel less alone and more understood. Helped me stop blaming myself, and gave me ideas for how to move forward.

Obviously I do still plan to ctb, after my dog goes, but in the meantime this book has been a comfort, a challenge, and a source of strength for me.

Knowledge is power, innit.

I actually have that book on my reading list... I'm glad it's been helpful for you!
OMG I'm such an asshole. I just wrote down this big lost post to you and I thought it was on the wrong thread and I deleted it. Whoo! Ok. My hand and arm are killing me right now but I am going to write you back again everything I wrote you later. I promise.
It's fine, take your time : )
 
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I couldn't wait to type back to you. Your post just broke my heart. I'm not even going to pretend I can vaguely understand how you feel because I can't. What you have been through is crippling. I'm beyond sorry to hear of it all. I want you to know that no matter what, your feelings matter and you have worth! I know it must be impossible to think that way now but I would love for the day to come where you can feel that way. And in no way are you weak. I know weak people. And you are not one of them. Not by far. Look at all that has happened to you. And here you are! Talking with me! You're still here and that means you are damn strong.

OCD is viscious. I have that. It makes you want to die. And it feeds off of anxiety and depression. It feeds off of stress. I wish you could get hold of another therapist. I've seen it's of therapists and many are shit I can tell you that. So you have to shop around for them. Don't be afraid to speak up and tell these people what you need out of them because that is their job. Also maybe you could be out on some medication for depression and OCD. But for the depression to go away I know the situation has to change. Your parents are physically abusive to you? I was wondering how old you are.

People on this site will always be here for you and we won't judge you. And if people do judge you then kick them out of your life. You need to get away from all these toxic animals and be around people that will love you for you. I'll tell you you're one tough cookie. You're reaching out to us so I would like to think that you want help. You may have a beautiful future ahead of you. I know I know. You're saying in your mind right now that is never going to happen. Since I can't beat the hell out of your parents or kill the piece of shit that raped you, all I can do is be here for you and talk with you. Never judging, never belittling, never comparing situations. I hope that something in your life changes where a little light is able to shine through and give you a feeling of hope. Christ I just want to drive to where you are and come get you myself and take you away from all of that horror. I don't want you to ever blame yourself for what happened to you. ok? Ever.

It would be great if you could build up your self esteem. I know that is easier said than done. So many things are easier said than done. But start with this. My name by the way is Audriana. And I say you are strong! So you remind yourself of that a bunch of times a day ok? Someone out there thinks you are strong beyond belief. Lots of love.
 
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@cowbain you did good. Impressive resilience and honesty.
 
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I believe you.
Yes. 24/7. It's discouraging.
 
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I don't think it's possible to force people to listen. Even with therapists I feel like they never really listen to what I say and it's like they think I can just make it out of this hellhole and do fine but the truth is I can't. At least not without help... proper help.
I relate. My therapist believes so much in me. IF I had 1% of that belief I would conquer the world.


May I ask you, if you want to share of course. What would be proper help for you?
im asking this cause i feel a lot that I need more help than I'm getting now. But I don't know for sure what this help would be.
I know it sounds confusing ....
I struggle talking about myself but I do want help so please bare with me.

So far my life in general has been pretty shit but for the past 3ish years everything has been especially hard. I come from a very abusive family with narcissists as parents, and deep down I've always known something was off but I didn't realize the extent of how awful they are until I was like 16. Despite that growing up I always did well academically and even got accepted into early college at 14. But that year was when I got my first obsession and as a result everything just spiraled out of control. I didn't know it at the time but that was ocd. I couldn't go to school or function at all (im still not). I did try while also going to therapy and my therapist told me that my environment was a big factor as to why my mental state was so bad. I guess being repeatedly raped as a child and having to deal with my family not being supportive, coupled with years of neglect & abuse was finally taking a toll on me. The therapist I was seeing had to change companies so then I was left without a therapist. So much has happened over the span of 3 years (different antidepressants, different therapists, family therapy, realizing my parents were narcissists, mental hospitals, heartbreak, cps & being in the system, etc.) ... and most of it was spent in complete isolation. The isolation has changed since this year but my life is still so isolating. Throughout all of this I've dealt with feeling suicidal yet I'm still here and I don't really know why. Even writing this out, I feel in a way like I didn't explain myself good enough, but maybe that's just the anxiety/ocd talking. I have noticed my memory & cognitive function has gotten significantly worse in these 3 years and that scares me so much. I just don't know what to do or how to fix my life anymore. I know the 1st step should be getting away from my parents. It's just hard when they purposefully isolate me, refuse to teach me how to drive, and with how bad my mental health is everything just seems impossible. It's so discouraging being around abusive people 24/7. Even if I'm away from my parents I still risk the chance of running into shitty people. People who will see that I've been abused and use that to justify trying to take advantage of me.. that even happens to me now on the internet. Or people that will see my mental health and judge me for being that way, along with judging the life circumstances that I had no control over. For them it's easier to judge because they can't even fathom being in my shoes or someone similar. It's not just people, it's society and the media too...The societal pressures/expectations that I couldn't fit in with because of how unconventional and traumatic my life has been. I don't even know if my life is salvageable anymore. I feel like a broken shell of a person. And nothing seems worth it if I'm just going to be alone forever. Fuck, even if I had people idek if it'd be worth it then. I don't partake in my hobbies or interests anymore because even that exhausts me and is tiring. I don't really feel emotions anymore, other than intense sensations & negative emotions. I can't feel pleasure anymore because of anhedonia. So much shit is wrong with my life, that doesn't even really scratch the surface, but in order to talk about everything I'd probably be here writing the entire day. And I'm tired of people disregarding my experiences and my feelings. I'm tired of being compared to others and told that I'm weak for being this way, and for being suicidal. I hate being so complicated that I'm not valid enough for others to listen to me or help.
I really sorry all of this happened to you.
I also really do hope you can find peace, which way you decide.
I wish you all the best! And if you ever feel like talking to anyone, venting or small talk, feel free to pm me.
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I feel this so much, I really just want one person to listen to me .
 
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Deltrus

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I just want to say, if someone has had a lifetime of suffering and still gets back up, or even sits up rather than laying down, then they are 100x stronger than someone who has just coasted through life with nothing beating them down.

You are living life on hard mode, do you think that makes all your efforts meaningless? It is the opposite. You are literally fighting against the universe, all of life itself when you wake up and get up. You are putting a static universe into motion with pure will!

You can't raise a finger because you are so traumatized? Direct all your energies towards healing. Everything bad that happened to you? Use that as inspiration to build a new you, if that is the weakest you and the strongest bad, then that is the Point from which you can use as a reference towards the strongest you and the highest good.

You can treasure yourself and nurture yourself, like a tree or a flower, growing towards the light, or you can perish.

I don't know what happens after death, so I can't say if perishing is good or bad for someone. Up to you to decide. It all depends on how much you can treasure yourself and how much you can love yourself. You can see yourself as someone who is buried and deadened, or you can see yourself as someone who has been planted, ready to grow.
 
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