It never gets better for some people

[Letting Go]

For most of my life, I have been depressed and suicidal. Like, it has been a good quarter-century since I last felt genuinely happy and optimistic. Year after year passes by and nothing ever changes besides younger and younger people passing me by in life. At my age, I get downright insulted when I hear people mindlessly parrot chiches like "It'll get better," "There's someone out there for everyone," "Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem," and many others that I must have heard thousands of times by now. For some unfortunate souls who have been cursed since birth, good things were just never meant to be.

Last night, after another miserable night out by myself, I pointed a loaded gun at my head for the first time in my life. I had no intention of pulling the trigger because I didn't want to leave a mess for my family to clean up, but it was exhilarating being so close to finally ending my lifelong suffering; it's one of the only instances where I have ever felt any power and control over my hopeless situation.

If there's one thing that I want to be remembered for, it's forecasting the male suicide epidemic that is about to EXPLODE in America and the western world in the 2020s and 2030s. I predict that, in America alone, hundreds of thousands of middle-aged men -- who are barely hanging on after being mercilessly beaten down by government, corporations, society, and women -- are going to start killing themselves each year once their aging parents start dying off. And a small but growing percentage of them will be taking others down with them as one final "FUCK YOU!" to the society that spited them and was rigged against them all along. It's going to get really ugly out there, and will have devastating consequences for the economy as well as programs like Social Security and Medicare in the U.S.

 

[bigj75]

Thats the one thing people don't understand. Sometimes nomatter how hard you try you can't win. In situations like that people should do everything they can to try to help that person and if they still can't be helped then offering them a peaceful death is the kindest and most helpful thing for them.

 

[Letting Go]

Thats the one thing people don't understand. Sometimes nomatter how hard you try you can't win. In situations like that people should do everything they can to try to help that person and if they still can't be helped then offering them a peaceful death is the kindest and most helpful thing for them.

Thank you.

 

[TAW122]

Well said, I think you may be onto something. I haven't really followed trends as closely, but what you've said definitely makes sense. I believe that people in general are so brainwashed, deluded, and indoctrinated to the extent that even they can't and refuse to wake up (and smell reality).

Thats the one thing people don't understand. Sometimes nomatter how hard you try you can't win. In situations like that people should do everything they can to try to help that person and if they still can't be helped then offering them a peaceful death is the kindest and most helpful thing for them.

Amen to that. Death should never be seen solely as a negative event, but it can be a positive if not, at least a neutral one. Death is a state where there is no more suffering and no more pleasure, thus neutral.

 

[Thoughtforms]

Why are you blaming women for male suicide?

 

[Dean]

Why are you blaming women for male suicide?

To be blunt, woman have much easier lives than men and society only cares about them. The fact that most men begin their lives with their genitals being mutilated should give you some hint of this.

 

[Amira]

To be blunt, woman have much easier lives than men and society only cares about them. The fact that most men begin their lives with their genitals being mutilated should give you some hint of this.

That is true in some ways. But some women can have it just as hard. Women have it easy if they are attractive. The ones who are unattractive are treated like shit. No man wants us. We cant get anyones attention or any help. We get only one chance. We either make it through our academia. However, If we mess that up then we are fucked. Sadly i fucked up and that leads me here.

 

[furax53]

[QUOTE = "Amira, post: 139291, member: 3990"] C'est vrai à certains égards. Mais certaines femmes peuvent avoir le même mal. Les femmes ont la vie facile si elles sont attirantes. Ceux qui sont peu attrayants sont traités comme de la merde. Aucun homme ne veut de nous. Nous ne pouvons pas attirer l'attention de quiconque ou de l'aide. Nous obtenons qu'une seule chance. Nous le faisons soit par notre université. Cependant, si nous gâchons cela, nous sommes foutus. Malheureusement, j'ai merdé et cela me mène ici. [/ DEVIS]
pour les hommes c'est pareil aussi

 

[Letting Go]

Why are you blaming women for male suicide?

Women have betrayed men like no other time in human history. Before recent times, an upstanding, hard-working man could count on having a loyal woman by his side, who would give him motivation to achieve great things in life. Men and women formed genuine, long-lasting partnerships, that, while not always perfect, were nonetheless much better than what we have today (a degenerate hookup culture, skyrocketing STD rates, rampant cheating and divorce, broken families, fatherless homes, and unmotivated/suicidal men who have no genetic stake in society). This will not end well for our civilization, I can assure you.

 

[Shewaitsforme]

Try being a lesbian woman but wait youll probably blame that on us too. That we make you feel all immasculinated or some shit like that. Im by no way a feminist but come on blaiming woman for mens suicide and if that were true well that just levels the llaying field of woman getting beqten down by men for so long doesnt it?

 

[Letting Go]

but come on blaiming woman for mens suicide

Divorced men are more than twice as likely than married men to commit suicide:
https://mensdivorce.com/suicide-rates-high-divorced-men/

Women initiate over 2/3rds of divorces, and this percentage jumps to 90% amongst college-educated women:
https://www.divorcemag.com/blog/why-do-women-initiate-divorce-more-than-men/

Women will divorce men on a whim (because she's "bored" or whatever) without any regards for the financial and emotional consequences that divorce has on a man. As pointed out above, this statistically makes the man MUCH more likely to commit suicide.

And that's not even counting all of the lonely men, such as myself, who have been driven to the brink of suicide because of how hopeless things have become in the "dating world" (for lack of a better term) for less-attractive men compared to just a few generations ago.

 

[Shewaitsforme]

Why are these woman divorcing men tho, are they tired of being seen as below their husbands, are their husbands causing them misery?

If women were treated more EQUALLY to men in the firsr place this wouldnt be happening would it

 

[Dean]

Divorced men are more than twice as likely than married men to commit suicide:
https://mensdivorce.com/suicide-rates-high-divorced-men/

Women initiate over 2/3rds of divorces, and this percentage jumps to 90% amongst college-educated women:
https://www.divorcemag.com/blog/why-do-women-initiate-divorce-more-than-men/

Women will divorce men on a whim (because she's "bored" or whatever) without any regards for the financial and emotional consequences that divorce has on a man. As pointed out above, this statistically makes the man MUCH more likely to commit suicide.

And that's not even counting all of the lonely men, such as myself, who have been driven to the brink of suicide because of how hopeless things have become in the "dating world" (for lack of a better term) for less-attractive men compared to just a few generations ago.

Well to be fair, there was a time when marriage was considered a pact with God and not the state. People were bound to stay in a marriage. Nowadays it's another hoop people jump through to show they're making progress in their lives like learning to drive or buying a house. Can you blame them though? Divorce laws heavily favor women and gives them freedom and income. It's morally wrong though and our society shouldn't reward anybody for a divorce. But the courts know that if they don't get the money from the man they'll end up paying through welfare. There's nothing stopping a women from working but society acts like their delicate flowers that can't work. And this is coming from someone who had a single mother who was widowed and had to work 60 hours a week. A lot of the laws really don't make sense. Like if it's a 50-50 split custody, why does the man still pay child support? I don't have any first hand experience with divorce but I can see the hypocrisy.

 

[Dean]

Why are these woman divorcing men tho, are they tired of being seen as below their husbands, are their husbands causing them misery?

If women were treated more EQUALLY to men in the firsr place this wouldnt be happening would it

I have heard plenty of cases where a woman cheats on her husband and still gets heavily favored in divorce court.

 

[Shewaitsforme]

I have heard plenty of cases where a woman cheats on her husband and still gets heavily favored in divorce court.

If you cheat your not happy tho.

 

[Dean]

If you cheat your not happy tho.

So would you be ok with your partner cheating on you if they said they weren't happy? Because I wouldn't. You made a promise to the other person and to cheat after that is disgusting.

 

[Shewaitsforme]

I think both men and woman should be EQUAL no one other thr other, same ex should be EQUAL, Trans should be EQUAL. If it had been fron the beginning this wouldnt not be happening now. You can only slap a dog down so many times before it turns and bites you.

Men are going through what woman have gone through for years, it doesnt make it right at all tho but instead of beating each other down we need common ground

 

[Shewaitsforme]

So would you be ok with your partner cheating on you if they said they weren't happy? Because I wouldn't. You made a promise to the other person and to cheat after that is disgusting.

Yes i have cheated on a partber because they were putting me down. I didnt leave due to financial pressures. A

 

[Johnnythefox]

As a divorced male I have to say that there is no safety net in this country for people like me (UK). Society and the system doesn't give a shit about the male, it was not my choice to end the marriage with two young kids in the mix. The man is denied his rights as the father, though you can be sure the CSA will be hounding you for maintenance. I don't know the exact figure for the suicide rate of men harassed and bullied by the system, though it's right up there. The man is persona non grata regarding social housing and is therefore pushed into the private rent sector where he is extorted by unscrupulous landlords. I wouldn't go so far as to say that this is the fault of the female, but it is an inequality caused by the system and will not change any time soon, in fact the situation will likely get a whole lot worse.

 

[Bilbobaggins]

forecasting the male suicide epidemic that is about to EXPLODE in America and the western world in the 2020s and 2030s...

I think the suicide rate is going to explode for everyone. Collapsing economies, the end of cheap fossil fuels, climate change, food shortages... the future decades are screwed. And all my friends are having kids!

 

[worldexploder]

"It gets better"...what a load of bullshit anyway. Even if life did get beter for someone it would only be temporary. Then tragedy will strike again. Maybe they will go to a doctor and find a spot on their lung or lose a loved in a car crash.

 

[Letting Go]

"It gets better"...what a load of bullshit anyway. Even if life did get beter for someone it would only be temporary. Then tragedy will strike again. Maybe they will go to a doctor and find a spot on their lung or lose a loved in a car crash.

Life is inherently a losing proposition; it's just a matter of how often and how much you'll lose before you inevitably perish.

 

[worldexploder]

Life is inherently a losing proposition; it's just a matter of how often and how much you'll lose before you inevitably perish.

Exactly. Everyone is gonna lose in the end.

 

[Shewaitsforme]

I really do feel for males, the ones who are being dragged into this shit. I understand both sides tho, i just wish others could also becahse untill we can all do that this isnt going to end well at all, one side will always beat down the other. All i see here is years to come it will do a full 180 where woman will be in the position of men and it will be woman suicide rates going up. If we strive to be equal we will find harmony together. A woman being passed up for promotion incase she gets pregnant against a man who is passed up in fear of the employer being made to feel biased towards men. Its all crazy. But can we rally have an equal for all world the way the human condition is i dont think so, so we need together to find an alternative without one side always feeling like they get less.

As for resources more needs to be done. Ive been turned away from housing because i dont have children, im infertile. So yes i do understand what its like, im also black and the only way i got into the ambulance through an ethinic minority drive previois to that i failed to get in 4 times with exactly the same profile. So now the male is experiencing things all other grouos have experienced for god knows how long but no it doesnt make it right. But do you see why its happening.

Inorder to change something we need to recognise why its happening in the first place

 

[Final Escape]

For most of my life, I have been depressed and suicidal. Like, it has been a good quarter-century since I last felt genuinely happy and optimistic. Year after year passes by and nothing ever changes besides younger and younger people passing me by in life. At my age, I get downright insulted when I hear people mindlessly parrot chiches like "It'll get better," "There's someone out there for everyone," "Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem," and many others that I must have heard thousands of times by now. For some unfortunate souls who have been cursed since birth, good things were just never meant to be.

Last night, after another miserable night out by myself, I pointed a loaded gun at my head for the first time in my life. I had no intention of pulling the trigger because I didn't want to leave a mess for my family to clean up, but it was exhilarating being so close to finally ending my lifelong suffering; it's one of the only instances where I have ever felt any power and control over my hopeless situation.

If there's one thing that I want to be remembered for, it's forecasting the male suicide epidemic that is about to EXPLODE in America and the western world in the 2020s and 2030s. I predict that, in America alone, hundreds of thousands of middle-aged men -- who are barely hanging on after being mercilessly beaten down by government, corporations, society, and women -- are going to start killing themselves each year once their aging parents start dying off. And a small but growing percentage of them will be taking others down with them as one final "FUCK YOU!" to the society that spited them and was rigged against them all along. It's going to get really ugly out there, and will have devastating consequences for the economy as well as programs like Social Security and Medicare in the U.S.

This is about destroying formerly majority white countries because the values and iq's of white people conflict with the ones of the state. We are the hardest to rule over, and this is why they want us bred out completely or mixed in with the other ethnic groups. Christian values is what made America so wealthy and prosperous, also the iq's. These are obviously not the same values that government imposes on us. Taxation is theft, and social programs cannot last forever because the money always runs out eventually. You can't bring in third world and remain a first world because whites are not like the other groups as a whole. This is not a racist thing, it's a fact. Anyway, I know how you feel. Even though I'm a woman, I have suffered because of the brainwashing of the state and not realizing that I'm being taught to think I'm somehow guilty because I'm white. Feminism was very destructive for me and steered me away from marriage and kids. I did get pregnant but I didn't want to be a single mother. At the same time I didn't learn the skills to form a good relationship with a man, and didn't understand that men are very different from women to my detriment. Nobody alive today was a slave owner, ok except the government. The rulers hiding behind government protection consider us slaves and tax livestock. Alot of people are lied to about our history and many other things.

 

[Letting Go]

I really do feel for males, the ones who are being dragged into this shit. I understand both sides tho, i just wish others could also becahse untill we can all do that this isnt going to end well at all, one side will always beat down the other. All i see here is years to come it will do a full 180 where woman will be in the position of men and it will be woman suicide rates going up. If we strive to be equal we will find harmony together. A woman being passed up for promotion incase she gets pregnant against a man who is passed up in fear of the employer being made to feel biased towards men. Its all crazy. But can we rally have an equal for all world the way the human condition is i dont think so, so we need together to find an alternative without one side always feeling like they get less.

Reasonable solutions need to be considered for lonely, marriage-minded, and divorced men in our society. As it stands, the only men who are winning in modern society are those who are sleeping with countless women without any desire to settle down. Just so you know, I'm not completely disregarding women's issues, but just wanted to propose a couple of solutions from a man's perspective. For starters:

• For lonely men: Prostitution should be legal in the U.S. so long as the woman is a legal adult and isn't forced into the profession against her will. As George Carlin famously said, "Selling is legal. Fucking is legal. So why isn't selling fucking legal?" Some men, such as myself, have no hope of ever attracting a woman naturally. Our only hope is to pay large sums of money for "fake intimacy" but our government has even taken away this outlet from us, so we are completely shut-out unless we pay thousands of dollars to visit Nevada or some overseas destination thousands of miles away. Christ, I would even pay a few hundred dollars just to cuddle with a woman every once in a while, I've been so deprived of female touch throughout my entire life!
  
• For marriage-minded men: Marriage licenses should be issued as 1/5/10 year contracts that both parties can agree to renew upon expiration. Expecting lifelong commitment simply isn't reasonable in today's society. And divorce settlements need to be more equitable, especially at a time when many young women are outearning their male counterparts. Paternity testing should also be mandatory, as no man should have to support a child that isn't his.

Of course, there are other issues (such as wealth inequality, the loss of male-oriented jobs that paid a living wage, average men being society's scapegoats who take the blame for everything that's wrong in our world, increased feelings of disconnectedness and alienation, etc.) contributing to the male suicide epidemic, but throwing dejected men a fucking bone once in a while would be greatly appreciated!

 

[Sundayafternoon]

That is true in some ways. But some women can have it just as hard. Women have it easy if they are attractive. The ones who are unattractive are treated like shit. No man wants us. We cant get anyones attention or any help. We get only one chance. We either make it through our academia. However, If we mess that up then we are fucked. Sadly i fucked up and that leads me here.

Not all attractive women have it easy. And what's "It" and what's "easy"?

Just because the masses may find you aesthetically pleasing, doesn't guarantee you'll enjoy your experience as sentient being.

Just being fuckable doesn't make for a good life.

 

[Jai]

Divorced men are more than twice as likely than married men to commit suicide:
https://mensdivorce.com/suicide-rates-high-divorced-men/

Women initiate over 2/3rds of divorces, and this percentage jumps to 90% amongst college-educated women:
https://www.divorcemag.com/blog/why-do-women-initiate-divorce-more-than-men/

Women will divorce men on a whim (because she's "bored" or whatever) without any regards for the financial and emotional consequences that divorce has on a man. As pointed out above, this statistically makes the man MUCH more likely to commit suicide.

And that's not even counting all of the lonely men, such as myself, who have been driven to the brink of suicide because of how hopeless things have become in the "dating world" (for lack of a better term) for less-attractive men compared to just a few generations ago.

This is correct in divorce a woman can certainly divorce on a whim happened to me out the blue after a lifetime with her and the courts sided by her I lost my home security wealth and freedom as in I was directed to only have partial custody of my children and my child support is ridiculous and I didn't want to get divorced and the second I left another man was in my bed with my children down the hall this started me on my dark path woman complain about equality I assure you you have all the rights when it comes to divorce I know this from friends divorces and online forums to strangers in bars.
I had a friend who had evidence his wife had an affair filled for divorce nd got fucked over she was the 'mother' of his kids and couldn't possibly be put in destitution, me they had no problem putting me there with a tough shit look on their face

 

[Sharethepain]

The issue is rather that we still think in terms of genders in this age. We are all humans, whether man or woman makes no difference, we all go through the same pain and suffering. If people could stop branding each other and being so judgmental the world could really change. Everyone thinks that we are the mighty humans, but we are merely a bunch of animals that have been given few rights, and everyone needs to understand that. Nothing but our virtues can make us great. Sure, there are real differences between being born a man or a woman, but in the end, it all boils down to how we act upon what we have been given, and nothing else.

If people could just be a bit more empathetic and less judgmental, I think everyone could see the real underlying issues. Its just that we have grown apathetic towards everyone around us and live in our own little bubbles, but in reality, we are all on board of the same ship, we all go through life hand in hand, its just that nobody sees this, because everyone is just so focused on their own pain.

 

[Letting Go]

This is correct in divorce a woman can certainly divorce on a whim happened to me out the blue after a lifetime with her and the courts sided by her I lost my home security wealth and freedom as in I was directed to only have partial custody of my children and my child support is ridiculous and I didn't want to get divorced and the second I left another man was in my bed with my children down the hall this started me on my dark path woman complain about equality I assure you you have all the rights when it comes to divorce I know this from friends divorces and online forums to strangers in bars.
I had a friend who had evidence his wife had an affair filled for divorce nd got fucked over she was the 'mother' of his kids and couldn't possibly be put in destitution, me they had no problem putting me there with a tough shit look on their face

I feel for you and everyone else that has gotten divorce-raped in such a cruel manner. It's probably a blessing in disguise that I swore off marriage back in 2004, though being completely devoid of female intimacy all my life has left me irreparably broken.