Method Is this method too good to be true? Deodorant/drowning

[Old]

So I've read several times and from multiple sources that deodorant sprays tend to have butane and propane, gases that replace oxygen when inhaled. Some people get "high" from inhaling deodorants. I kind of "tried" but inhaled it indirectly and felt dizzy, didn't go any further tho. I didn't even do it the right way which is inhaling it through a shirt or towel.

But here's the thing, what about combining this deodorant with drowning? You could skip the whole hypercapnia (the painful urge to breathe) by inhaling the gas, when you feel dizzy then get into the water and you should in theory pass out without much or any pain since you are already low in oxygen.

I don't know if I'm just hyping this idea too much, this seems too good to be true. Any thoughts?


Edit:
Ok, so I just tried inhaling it properly. I inhaled the spray through a towel using my mouth, filling my lungs with the product and held my breath. In around 15 seconds I got very dizzy and I felt like I was going to pass out if I kept holding my breath. I started breathing cause obviously my intention wasn't to pass out. Eventhough it sounds scary it actually felt really good, I wasn't scared at all. I understand why people do it.

But I was a lot happier by the fact that this experiment worked. It seems like if I do this and then get into the sea, I would be unconscious pretty quickly with no pain. Maybe this is a good method?

If you are planning to try this DON'T inhale directly through the can because the product is cold and could irritate your tissues. I put a towel above the can and the can pointing up with my head above and looking down, then I inhaled with my mouth as I sprayed. Also don't do this often. This was just a test.

 

[ironically living]

This seems very, very plausible. I have a couple spare aerosol deodorants, I am going to try this with some of them, I'll report back with anything notable!

 

[Abyssal]

Drowning hurts, but if you trust that you'll not feel it then that sounds pretty awesome. I'd try getting comfy and actually trying to make yourself pass out if you can, but don't overdo it.

 

[Old]

Drowning hurts, but if you trust that you'll not feel it then that sounds pretty awesome. I'd try getting comfy and actually trying to make yourself pass out if you can, but don't overdo it.

I'll try again tonight and this time I'll hold until I pass out, on my bed. If it works this could be a cheat code. I will report back.

 

[UKscotty]

Not a good method I think.

If you want to die high, something like nitrous oxide, fentanyl, morphine or amyl nitrite are probably much better methods.

 

[Alexei_Kirillov]

I'll try again tonight and this time I'll hold until I pass out, on my bed. If it works this could be a cheat code. I will report back.

Sounds interesting, thanks. Make sure to time how long you pass out for

 

[Old]

Well, I was on the brink of passing out. My vision was blurry and I felt as if I was floating but I didn't have the guts to actually pass out. I don't think it was necessary either, so I started breathing again. This was on my bed btw.

I'm 100% sure if this is done and then got underwater I'd ctb. I will have this in the backpocket, this is like breathing helium (or similar gases) and instead of inhaling to death you just drown underwater.

Lastly, I don't know if this is particularly dangerous for your brain. Some people do it, but people do stupid things all the time, let's be honest. I don't plan on making this a habit and will only use it when I ctb for good.

Maybe this method could be explored and discussed more in the future?

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I think the shock to the body of water starting to enter your lungs is going to bring you right back around. IDK, but that's what I think.

 

[mizumono]

Used to huff deodorant when I was a teen, never felt even slightly dizzy, but i'd be interested to see what can come of this.

 

[Placo]

So I've read several times and from multiple sources that deodorant sprays tend to have butane and propane, gases that replace oxygen when inhaled. Some people get "high" from inhaling deodorants. I kind of "tried" but inhaled it indirectly and felt dizzy, didn't go any further tho. I didn't even do it the right way which is inhaling it through a shirt or towel.

But here's the thing, what about combining this deodorant with drowning? You could skip the whole hypercapnia (the painful urge to breathe) by inhaling the gas, when you feel dizzy then get into the water and you should in theory pass out without much or any pain since you are already low in oxygen.

I don't know if I'm just hyping this idea too much, this seems too good to be true. Any thoughts?


Edit:
Ok, so I just tried inhaling it properly. I inhaled the spray through a towel using my mouth, filling my lungs with the product and held my breath. In around 15 seconds I got very dizzy and I felt like I was going to pass out if I kept holding my breath. I started breathing cause obviously my intention wasn't to pass out. Eventhough it sounds scary it actually felt really good, I wasn't scared at all. I understand why people do it.

But I was a lot happier by the fact that this experiment worked. It seems like if I do this and then get into the sea, I would be unconscious pretty quickly with no pain. Maybe this is a good method?

If you are planning to try this DON'T inhale directly through the can because the product is cold and could irritate your tissues. I put a towel above the can and the can pointing up with my head above and looking down, then I inhaled with my mouth as I sprayed. Also don't do this often. This was just a test.

It would be interesting to combine this method with the plastic bag instead of drowning, spray it in the bag so it takes away the oxygen so it makes it quicker, I was considering doing it with helium otherwise.

 

[Old]

I think the shock to the body of water starting to enter your lungs is going to bring you right back around. IDK, but that's what I think.

I'd say that's very unlikely because the gas will make you hypoxic, being underwatwer wouldn't allow you to get any oxygen so waking up shouldn't even happen. This method seems very bulletproof UNLESS someone rescues you, that's the single most important factor.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I'd say that's very unlikely because the gas will make you hypoxic, being underwatwer wouldn't allow you to get any oxygen so waking up shouldn't even happen. This method seems very bulletproof UNLESS someone rescues you, that's the single most important factor.

IDK. Bodies have a way of responding when in peril. Maybe before complete hypoxia sets in, could be a sudden release of adrenaline and other hormones allowing momentary "recuperation", just long enough to allow rescue of oneself. Stranger things have happened. I'm not saying things go one way or another.

 

[RadiantNumber]

Deodorant is enough I think

High concentrations of inhalants also can cause death from suffocation. This happens because inhaling concentrated chemicals prevents you from breathing in any oxygen. If the lungs and brain are without oxygen for a long enough time, you will suffocate and die. This can happen with huffing and bagging.

Primer: A Parent's Guide to Inhalant Abuse

Inhalants are breathable chemical vapors that produce mind-altering effects. Knowing the facts about inhalants can help you protect your children.

www.stanfordchildrens.org

 

[Old]

Deodorant is enough I think

Primer: A Parent's Guide to Inhalant Abuse

Inhalants are breathable chemical vapors that produce mind-altering effects. Knowing the facts about inhalants can help you protect your children.

www.stanfordchildrens.org

That's interesting info and yes, some people have died from just huffing deodorant. But I don't want to risk it. The method seems bulletproof if combined with drowning.

 

[RadiantNumber]

That's interesting info and yes, some people have died from just huffing deodorant. But I don't want to risk it. The method seems bulletproof if combined with drowning.

Huffing could be dangerous and lead to brain damage

 

[Old]

Okay guys, I wasn't brave enough to pass out. But this method could be completely painless. Although a lot of SI will be involved.

1. Hyperventilation to decrease the carbon dioxide in your blood. Hyperventilate for 5 minutes straight as this delays the urge to breathe but doesn't eliminate it in most people.

2. After hyperventilation, exhaling completely and then inhaling the butane/propane (with the safety measures, NEVER directly from the canister and with a towel over it, with your mouth close but not touching the towel). Hold your breath after you fill your chest with the gas. This will displace most oxygen in your body.

3. When you feel hypoxic (low oxygen) and on the brink of passing out, swimming out as far as possible. You should ctb if nobody spots you.

(4). Like someone above me said, inhaling this type of gas (especially butane) can cause cardiac arrest, known as sudden sniffer death. If this happens you can literally skip all the steps and you'll be dead since your heart stops. But this is not common unless you abuse the substance and PLEASE PLEASE DON'T abuse it. In fact don't try this method unless you are too desperate.

I have tried this a few times and there is always some urge to breathe, hyperventilation would totally eliminate it. The problem is I'm not brave enough to actually pass out. I've passed out once or twice in my life but it was unexpected so there was no fear.

This is all I have to say. I'm in a state where my life isn't good enough to want to live, but not bad enough to want to die. I'm in a limbo. If life got really bad, and I have no easy method, I will use this method, cause I believe it is reliable.

I'm sorry for being a coward and not being able to complete the experiment, but I hope it could be discussed more in future posts.

To conclude this, DON'T USE INHALANTS, this is just a one-time type experimentation. Love you and thanks for even reading this post.

 

[Natsuhiboshi]

Deodorant is enough I think

Primer: A Parent's Guide to Inhalant Abuse

Inhalants are breathable chemical vapors that produce mind-altering effects. Knowing the facts about inhalants can help you protect your children.

www.stanfordchildrens.org

its not, been huffing it for better part of a few years now and im still kicking

 

[Intoxicated]

I'd say that's very unlikely because the gas will make you hypoxic, being underwatwer wouldn't allow you to get any oxygen so waking up shouldn't even happen. This method seems very bulletproof UNLESS someone rescues you, that's the single most important factor.

I had similar ideas, and this method was discussed here a few times. I think, waking up after losing consciousness is theoretically possible due to dilation of cerebral blood vessels as levels of O2 decrease and levels of CO2 increase. A few people on this forum claimed that they tried SWB (shallow-water blackout) with air duster and they eventually regained consciousness after passing out, although I wouldn't fully trust such stories, since you never know whether they are genuine.

At least, we can consider some scientific facts from more or less reliable sources. For example, the effects of low O2 and high CO2 are described in the last two sections of this article

Control of Cerebral Blood Flow - The Cerebral Circulation - NCBI Bookshelf

Taking these effects into account, I can imagine the following scenario. When you quickly displace oxygen from your lungs with an asphyxiant gas, the level of O2 in your blood also rapidly decreases and this causes fainting. Since your brain doesn't get enough oxygen and produced carbon dioxide is not evacuated normally due to absence of breathing, compensatory mechanisms may be activated a short time later in response to low O2 and increased CO2 levels in the form of cerebral vasodilation, which can increase the ability of the brain to obtain oxygen from poorly saturated blood, so it would be sufficient for maintaining consciousness again.

1. Hyperventilation to decrease the carbon dioxide in your blood. Hyperventilate for 5 minutes straight as this delays the urge to breathe but doesn't eliminate it in most people.

2. After hyperventilation, exhaling completely and then inhaling the butane/propane (with the safety measures, NEVER directly from the canister and with a towel over it, with your mouth close but not touching the towel). Hold your breath after you fill your chest with the gas. This will displace most oxygen in your body.

I think that combining hyperventilation and gas asphyxiation in the suggested way is a bad idea for the reasons explained above.

When you use only hyperventilation for SWB, blackout happens in approximately 4 minutes or more. During such a long period before blackout, your body gradually consumes O2 and produces CO2 and the blood vessels in the brain have enough time to dilate in response to the changes of O2/CO2 levels, so you probably pass out when your vessels are already dilated pretty much and their potential of further dilation is low, then the compensatory mechanisms can't make you wake up anymore.

When you force quick SWB via a combination of hyperventilation and gas asphyxiation, you leave a giant potential of further vasodilation, since hyperventilation narrows blood vessels in relation to their normal state, so you pass out having your cerebral blood vessels constricted. And then your odds of waking up become maximal.

Instead of using gas asphyxiation right after hyperventilation, it makes sense to wait during breath holding until you start feeling the urge to breathe and only then displace the residual mixture of O2 and CO2 from the lungs by inhaling the chosen asphyxiant gas.

Also don't forget to plug your nose before inhaling the asphyxiant in order to prevent inhaling fresh air. Even if it seems that you can do inhalations solely through the mouth without blocking the nose from the outside, you can actually inhale something through the nose without noticing.