Is this hell?

[bacardirum]

I am very new to this wonderful site, so excuse me if I ask questions which have been covered. Is this hell we live in though? Here on Earth, did we all do bad things in the past and only some of us are acting good now. I personally think this life is horrendous, and must be hell, we are all guity of being bad people, what eViL people we all are...

 

[suffering]

I sometimes think that I am paying for the sins of my ancestors. Whole life is a sin, "the original sin" is a symbol of being born a sexual person, capable to breed others into this world of suffering. I feel like I am a self aware continuation of my ancestors, like their lives are in me. I'm the antinatalist paying for the sins of the whole line, from the first molecule to my parents. I'm guilty of being their continuation, but innocent for stopping the cycle of life, so I hope I get an easy sentence.

 

[Alan James]

This is not hell (it does not exist) - it is much worse than Christian hell, there is nothing worse than the physical worlds. There are many religions that say that this world is hell (literally), but I'm an atheist. This reality is a terrible place, there is no torture worse than being here.

 

[Chalken]

I'm an atheist so I don't believe in hell or whatever, but this life sure is what I'd think hell would be like.

 

[NOT]

Yes this is hell.
Congrats, you made it.

 

[Kuris]

Sometimes I wonder if I have already killed myself and that's why I'm in this place. What happens when I kill myself again? Does it all start from the beginning?

 

[Weems]

Sometimes I wonder if I have already killed myself and that's why I'm in this place. What happens when I kill myself again? Does it all start from the beginning?

Congratulations, you made my stomach turn into a rock and drop a few inches. Dios mio. Anything but that.

 

[KnightOfEnceladus]

No, it's not, at least not how you think. Any place can be "Hell" because "Hell" is a state of being, not a place.

 

[GeorgeJL]

Life is what you make it. People can create heaven on earth or hell on earth. It really depends on you and your genetics.

 

[KnightOfEnceladus]

Life is largely what it is made for you, @GeorgeJL. Especially if you're poor or otherwise born disadvantaged. Well off or even plain ol' lower-middle-class people really have no idea how much luck plays into this.

 

[Deleted member 1768]

Life is what you make it. People can create heaven on earth or hell on earth. It really depends on you and your genetics.

Life is not always what you make it, and there are many contributing factors to despair/suffering. There is often NO choice. We do not choose to be/become crippled, mentally or physically. We do not choose agonizing pain...and we do not choose our genes. Often heaven and hell are forced on us by nature/the universe. Sorry JL I am frequently puzzled by the things you write...

 

[Suicidal4Ever]

I sometimes think that I am paying for the sins of my ancestors. Whole life is a sin, "the original sin" is a symbol of being born a sexual person, capable to breed others into this world of suffering. I feel like I am a self aware continuation of my ancestors, like their lives are in me. I'm the antinatalist paying for the sins of the whole line, from the first molecule to my parents. I'm guilty of being their continuation, but innocent for stopping the cycle of life, so I hope I get an easy sentence.

I allways wonder if im being punished for something i did from a past life or something. I believe im a pretty good person and cant find a reason for me to be in this situation. Just unlucky i guess

 

[KnightOfEnceladus]

I do wonder the same honestly. As insane as this sounds, I've always been slightly telepathic since early childhood (this goes waaaaaaaaaaay beyond empathy or intuition...) and tend toward mild dissociation, which usually ends with just kind of knowing how things are going to play out. And I too have a very deep suspicion that my misfortunes are at least partly karmic.

 

[Deleted member 1768]

I do wonder the same honestly. As insane as this sounds, I've always been slightly telepathic since early childhood (this goes waaaaaaaaaaay beyond empathy or intuition...) and tend toward mild dissociation, which usually ends with just kind of knowing how things are going to play out. And I too have a very deep suspicion that my misfortunes are at least partly karmic.

Do you have epilepsy Knight? Sounds a bit like a simple partial seizure.

 

[GeorgeJL]

Life is not always what you make it, and there are many contributing factors to despair/suffering. There is often NO choice. We do not choose to be/become crippled, mentally or physically. We do not choose agonizing pain...and we do not choose our genes. Often heaven and hell are forced on us by nature/the universe. Sorry JL I am frequently puzzled by the things you write...

Notice I said "you" and "genetics" not just "you". Genetics can certainly account for despair, suffering, mentally or physically crippled. But really genetics is almost king here. If you don't know this by now then you should learn about the relationship between genetics and personality. Look up twins separated from birth and see how similar they are despite having grown up in much different circumstances. I guess I did forget others as we are co-creators. I do know that others can highly influence our own life. But even that is somewhat chosen through our current actions which will influence our next reincarnation.

 

[Deathmandie]

Yes it's hell
If you with your love one hell become heaven
But if your love one removed forceful from your life even the heaven become hell

 

[Username786]

Life is largely what it is made for you, @GeorgeJL. Especially if you're poor or otherwise born disadvantaged. Well off or even plain ol' lower-middle-class people really have no idea how much luck plays into this.

It always amazes me how much luck is factor in every human life, yet so many of us discount its impact. If everyone would acknowledge the massive amount luck plays in our lives, maybe we could start to make a world that isn't so unjust.
This is a really great article on the topic.

The radical moral implications of luck in human life

Acknowledging the role of luck is the secular equivalent of religious awakening.

www.vox.com

 

[LastFlowers]

I am very new to this wonderful site, so excuse me if I ask questions which have been covered. Is this hell we live in though? Here on Earth, did we all do bad things in the past and only some of us are acting good now. I personally think this life is horrendous, and must be hell, we are all guity of being bad people, what eViL people we all are...

I don't think so, not in the way you are concerned about.
I'm not religious in the slightest but I say Earth is heaven, hell, and everything in between. In a metaphorical sense.
Some people have wonderful lives and maybe they deserve it, maybe they really don't.
Some people have awful lives and maybe they deserved it, but more likely they really did not.

I doubt the majority of people here are psychopaths or "evil". Never mind, born that way.
From suffering can come something that mimics evil.
But it is simply the bitterness forced down our throats by life. While our eyes are simultaneously forced open to watch the people who live in heaven, right beside us, while we are stuck in hell.

 

[KnightOfEnceladus]

@poof: No, I've never had a seizure that I know of. I do believe I had one incident of sleep paralysis once and that may have been a seizure, but nothing other than that. I've always done weird, spooky things ever since I was a little girl.

 

[Xaphous]

It's a damn tough place but not hell imo, there are worse dimensions and we are sort of at a middle ground. It is however a sort of prison, that's why your body is made up of 'cells' whilst our spirit is bound in that physicality. 666 is the number of man, 6 protons, 6 electrons and 6 neutrons which is carbon and we are carbon lifeforms. We are to escape samsara, gradually become enlightened enough to not have to reincarnate back. Reality has been hacked by the evil controllers and made harder than it was first intentionally supposed to, then we have the archons that invade thoughts and make life more difficult also, while we are also continually distracted and fallen to desire and temptations of body and mind which hold us back in the long run.

 

[throwaway123]

Yes.

 

[Deleted member 1768]

@poof: No, I've never had a seizure that I know of. I do believe I had one incident of sleep paralysis once and that may have been a seizure, but nothing other than that. I've always done weird, spooky things ever since I was a little gi
You are actually describing a possible seizure type...temporal lobe epilepsy. The body is remarkable. A seizure is not always a bad thing. Part of the brain goes into overdrive. Who knows what that will produce...sorry. I did a bit of a doob. Hope I made sense...blush.

 

[Alan James]

Reality has been hacked by the evil controllers and made harder than it was first intentionally supposed to, then we have the archons that invade thoughts and make life more difficult also, while we are also continually distracted and fallen to desire and temptations of body and mind which hold us back in the long run.

Who are the archons? This? - https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/alien_archons80.htm

I once saw a hallucination that was some kind of creature with big horns on its head and some developed technologies - this is very similar to the description of these archons. I do not believe in the existence of such but it is strange.

"Now the rulers […] body […] they have […] female […] is […] with the face of a beast." - This is exactly what I saw in this hallucination, it seems it was a female being with a dragon face (unusually beautiful) and big horns.

 

[Ἡγησίας]

"Life is hell, and the sweet still night of absolute death is the annihilation of hell."

Philipp Mainländer

 

[NOT]

Who are the archons? This? - https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/alien_archons80.htm

I once saw a hallucination that was some kind of creature with big horns on its head and some developed technologies - this is very similar to the description of these archons. I do not believe in the existence of such but it is strange.

"Now the rulers […] body […] they have […] female […] is […] with the face of a beast." - This is exactly what I saw in this hallucination, it seems it was a female being with a dragon face (unusually beautiful) and big horns.

 

[AutumnEmbers]

It always amazes me how much luck is factor in every human life, yet so many of us discount its impact. If everyone would acknowledge the massive amount luck plays in our lives, maybe we could start to make a world that isn't so unjust.
This is a really great article on the topic.

The radical moral implications of luck in human life

Acknowledging the role of luck is the secular equivalent of religious awakening.

www.vox.com

Thank you for linking that article. It's something everyone should read.

 

[ExitTheDay]

Yes, this sure is hell to be honest

 

[Xaphous]

Who are the archons? This? - https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/alien_archons80.htm

Yeah it still remains a theory but they are well documented over thousands of years and I think it's likely true.

 

[KnightOfEnceladus]

So it's important not to reincarnate, correct? Just say something like "Look, I killed myself for a reason: putting an end to all this. I am not going back, got it?"

 

[ZixivaldYrxes]

So it's important not to reincarnate, correct? Just say something like "Look, I killed myself for a reason: putting an end to all this. I am not going back, got it?"

You're already being mindfucked into accepting it if you even presuppose that you have to ask or that there is someone to ask, imo. Refuse to connect at all, retain that purity of mind.