Lucifer'sRight

Lucifer'sRight

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just wondering how does it feel, does it make the decision more difficult and is your option range wider... ?
 
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just wondering how does it feel, does it make the decision more difficult and is your option range wider... ?
I am not rich. If I was tho I don't think anything will change. Money can't fix genes.
 
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I'm also not rich, but if I were, I'd probably still want to die
 
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Lucifer'sRight

Lucifer'sRight

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I don't think it would change anything for me... but i know i'd feel way more guilty. Something like a properly functioning human being owes more to society then.. well.. most of us :D i think my guilt is utilitarian in many ways. Obviously i know that this is just my brainwashing speaking. Its not my genuine belief.
 
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BPD Barbie

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Not rich either but if I was, I wouldn't want to ctb as much. It would mean I'd be able to get out of the situation I'm stuck in, pay off crippling debt, start over and if I did chose to ctb I'd have more options available to me like N. Money doesn't buy happiness but it can be a huge help.
 
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Lucifer'sRight

Lucifer'sRight

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Not rich either but if I was, I wouldn't want to ctb as much. It would mean I'd be able to get out of the situation I'm stuck in, pay off crippling debt, start over and if I did chose to ctb I'd have more options available to me like N. Money doesn't buy happiness but it can be a huge help.
Agreed, like money can buy you things to mask ypur mental illness with, or an actual break from life...
 
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rebelsue

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Dec 12, 2019
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I don't know if I'd count as rich but I do have a maaaaan to take care of me and I hate it. It honestly makes me want to kill myself even more. I feel like a free loading piece of shit who will get my comeuppance someday even though I 100% did not want this life. I didn't want to be dependent on a man. I wanted to be able to earn my own money. I don't want to be "lucky" -- it makes people ignore my suffering or discount it. I'm not lucky at all. I worked really hard in life to avoid this outcome, and here I am. That's the definition of unlucky...too many outside circumstances happened to me that prevented me from seeing my decisions clearly. In my country, everything is about being self made and doing things for yourself and being tough. I am all of those things, but I don't have the outward appearance of being so because of how my efforts turned out due to chance. I still did everything the self-made people have done, but it just didn't work out for me on the outside.
 
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Jumper Geo

Jumper Geo

Life's a bitch and then you die.
Feb 23, 2020
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I find it really interesting when multi millionaires or billionaire ctb look at Kate Spade but mental illness is a killer, you always think they have it all, but sadly looks can be deceiving Google billionaire commits suicide you will come a cross a few stories.
 
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Lucifer'sRight

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I hate the concept of a man taking care of a woman. Mostly because if we'd say the same thing in reverse that would be an insult...
 
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I’mDone

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I'm not rich either but being rich would not change my internal landscape at all. I'd still feel the same.
 
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Advantage of being rich is, except for health you can still chose to live with dignity. Plus, money can even buy you peaceful death.
 
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Lucifer'sRight

Lucifer'sRight

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Advantage of being rich is, except for health you can still chose to live with dignity. Plus, money can even buy you peaceful death.
SO TRUE. i bet if you have over a million in european/american currency you can coerce someone to help you die easily and as you said, with dignity.
 
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Life's a bitch and then you die.
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SO TRUE. i bet if you have over a million in european/american currency you can coerce someone to help you die easily and as you said, with dignity.

If you have lot's of money and influence you meet people with connections so easy to acquire a bottle of N as they probably know a few dodgy people who don't mind robbing a vets.
 
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If you have lot's of money and influence you meet people with connections so easy to acquire a bottle of N as they probably know a few dodgy people who don't mind robbing a vets.
Or if you know a vet...that almost sounds like a plan..
 
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Is Existence Just A Test?
Apr 27, 2020
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If I had money, I could go to the US and get a gun for ctbing. But honestly if I was rich I'd just say fuck off go somewhere far away have fun there. Maybe after that ctb. IDK
 
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I'm not "rich" exactly, but i live in Brazil, where most people live in misery, and i live in a nice house, with both of my loving parents, and my sister.
I go to med school (the most expensive course mostly) in the most expensive college in my town, why? Because it's the only one where i've passed the entrance exams, due to a lot of people passing but quitting due to not being able to pay, or because they've passed in another place, cheaper probably.

So i'm what a lot of people would consider "rich", in more ways than one as well.
Tbh, my suicide ideation, in parts, is due to this, like, my parents CAN pay my college, which i guess makes me rich, but they somewhat struggle to do so.
I'm not "rich" in the sense that i can pay for anything, no matter how expensive, with ease, if that were the case i'd still be fucked, but more at peace than i am now.

An example of how it's hard for them to pay is my sister, which helps them pay for my college, telling me that if i ever killed myself, they would "revive just so they can kill me themselves".
Also, they've been very clear when i mentioned dropping out, "It's not gonna happen, we've spent too much money already", i'm fucking trapped.
And even if i dropped out it wouldn't help much, it's not like i have any direction in life at all, i'd have nowhere to go anyway.

So when i look at myself, in the 3rd year of college, having learned nothing in the first 2 years, being worse than everyone in my class, and not being able to help a single patient in any way, failing miserably in exams and setting myself up for being a dropout, due to various reasons, but mostly me not having any dispostion for any of this, especially for dedicating myself in studying all of this stuff i don't care about 24/7, cuz i'm a lazy spoiled whiny bastard, i feel guilt in a way i can't even describe.

It's even worse when i look at many people here, that are in a terrible financial situation, and i see how it screws them over, i can't help but think that i don't have the right to be depressed, i literally have no problems, at least compared to most people alive in the world. I'm such a spoiled cunt...
 
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Jumper Geo

Jumper Geo

Life's a bitch and then you die.
Feb 23, 2020
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I'm not "rich" exactly, but i live in Brazil, where most people live in misery, and i live in a nice house, with both of my loving parents, and my sister.
I go to med school (the most expensive course mostly) in the most expensive college in my town, why? Because it's the only one where i've passed the entrance exams, due to a lot of people passing but quitting due to not being able to pay, or because they've passed in another place, cheaper probably.

So i'm what a lot of people would consider "rich", in more ways than one as well.
Tbh, my suicide ideation, in parts, is due to this, like, my parents CAN pay my college, which i guess makes me rich, but they somewhat struggle to do so.
I'm not "rich" in the sense that i can pay for anything, no matter how expensive, with ease, if that were the case i'd still be fucked, but more at peace than i am now.

An example of how it's hard for them to pay is my sister, which helps them pay for my college, telling me that if i ever killed myself, they would "revive just so they can kill me themselves".
Also, they've been very clear when i mentioned dropping out, "It's not gonna happen, we've spent too much money already", i'm fucking trapped.
And even if i dropped out it wouldn't help much, it's not like i have any direction in life at all, i'd have nowhere to go anyway.

So when i look at myself, in the 3rd year of college, having learned nothing in the first 2 years, being worse than everyone in my class, and not being able to help a single patient in any way, failing miserably in exams and setting myself up for being a dropout, due to various reasons, but mostly me not having any dispostion for any of this, especially for dedicating myself in studying all of this stuff i don't care about 24/7, cuz i'm a lazy spoiled whiny bastard, i feel guilt in a way i can't even describe.

It's even worse when i look at many people here, that are in a terrible financial situation, and i see how it screws them over, i can't help but think that i don't have the right to be depressed, i literally have no problems, at least compared to most people alive in the world. I'm such a spoiled cunt...

Firstly I like your parents sense of humour if you kill yourself they will revive you, so they can kill you, haha secondly why not think about changing your outlook don't be lazy study hard and get a good job in the hospital pay them back and then later if you want to ctb you know where all the good drugs are, :haha::haha::haha:
 
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KiraLittleOwl

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Jan 25, 2019
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I find this relevant.
 
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Firstly I like your parents sense of humour if you kill yourself they will revive you, so they can kill you, haha secondly why not think about changing your outlook don't be lazy study hard and get a good job in the hospital pay them back and then later if you want to ctb you know where all the good drugs are, :haha::haha::haha:

That joke wasn't made by my parents, it was by my sister during a somewhat serious conversation that we had, and even if it was a joke, i could tell (due to her tone, and me knowing her well) that she meant it.

Now, would my parents hate me the same way she would? I don't know, but as loving as they are, we've had problems before.
They're muslim, and i gave up on the religion years ago, today they're kind of used to it (tho, sometimes it's clear they still hold a bit of a grudge about it), but when they first found out, the atmosphere at home was garbage for the longest time.
This situation i'm in right now is much worse, since it involves quite a bit of money to say the least, so while i like them, and they like me, i can't say that i trust them 100% when it comes to not treating me like garbage if i dropout, since they've already betrayed my trust before.

Now, about your advice, my friend, i wish it was as simple as "changing my outlook, not being lazy, studying hard, getting a job, etc", but i can tell you that, as much as i hate myself, and can't help but think i'm just looking for excuses for being a piece of shit, it's much easier said than done.
If it were simple, i would have done all of this already.
But it isn't, i could write many paragraphs about why that's the case, and why i'm so fucked in the head, but i don't even have much energy to do that at the moment.
 
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Lucifer'sRight

Lucifer'sRight

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All that really makes me think of how f**ked up it is that we cant decide about our own body, because everyone is pro-life and THEY think its okay to decide FOR us. No one ever talks about the quality of life, and whether its worth it, just SURVIVE no matter what cost, like a literal zombie. i think that there's a major human right being broken in here. And here we have exactly ONE pro-choice forum, that doesn't even always work for me, cause the browser/server deems it inappropriate, constantly in danger of being taken down, where we cram like criminals, probably hiding it from everyone. When all we want is what we already have. The right to decide about ourselves.
 
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angie

angie

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May 25, 2018
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I find it really interesting when multi millionaires or billionaire ctb look at Kate Spade but mental illness is a killer, you always think they have it all, but sadly looks can be deceiving Google billionaire commits suicide you will come a cross a few stories.
I nèver understand why these rich people dont just apply to dignitas they can obviously afford it .why take risks when there money can buy them surety .
If i had 10k id be there asap im currently trying to save for it but its a slow process ill die naturally by time i save 10k its took me a year and a half to save 2k only 8k more needed .sighsssss lol .
I even tried go fund me but they dont allow it for that reason .anyway im not rich but if i was thats what id do instead sitting struggling all day every day .and have no life at all anyway .I better shut up now or ill cry for myself
 
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Jumper Geo

Jumper Geo

Life's a bitch and then you die.
Feb 23, 2020
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That joke wasn't made by my parents, it was by my sister during a somewhat serious conversation that we had, and even if it was a joke, i could tell (due to her tone, and me knowing her well) that she meant it.

Now, would my parents hate me the same way she would? I don't know, but as loving as they are, we've had problems before.
They're muslim, and i gave up on the religion years ago, today they're kind of used to it (tho, sometimes it's clear they still hold a bit of a grudge about it), but when they first found out, the atmosphere at home was garbage for the longest time.
This situation i'm in right now is much worse, since it involves quite a bit of money to say the least, so while i like them, and they like me, i can't say that i trust them 100% when it comes to not treating me like garbage if i dropout, since they've already betrayed my trust before.

Now, about your advice, my friend, i wish it was as simple as "changing my outlook, not being lazy, studying hard, getting a job, etc", but i can tell you that, as much as i hate myself, and can't help but think i'm just looking for excuses for being a piece of shit, it's much easier said than done.
If it were simple, i would have done all of this already.
But it isn't, i could write many paragraphs about why that's the case, and why i'm so fucked in the head, but i don't even have much energy to do that at the moment.

Yes I'm with you on that I have no energy to do anything I'm sorry your situation sounds bad, was it your choice to study or your families all I can suggest if you are going to drop out is to have an action plan the trouble unskilled workers are low paid unless you have an excellent business idea so your parents and sister will be disappointed and you are in for a hell of a ride.

You situation isn't unique every Country in the World there are parents who persuade (force) there children the best thing is to follow in there footsteps as a career unfortunately I met a young American guy on here we became good friends he told me his mum was a lawyer and very stern paid for him to attend college and university to become a lawyer but he dropped out and moved to the UK, he liked London but hated his work he said it was unskilled and low paid was treated like crap and well you can guess what he chose in the end.

So my friend I hope you have a excellent action plan to get your sister and parents of your back.

Sorry I couldn't be more help, I wish you all the best.

Cheers

Geo
 
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xalltoowell

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Nov 3, 2019
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They say money doesn't buy happiness, but if I was rich it would alleviate many of my problems. I could get plastic surgery. I could choose to travel endlessly without having to work or choose to build a tiny cottage in the woods isolated from everyone. I might still be miserable, but less miserable perhaps.
 
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just wondering how does it feel, does it make the decision more difficult and is your option range wider... ?

I'm not rich, but I'm not struggling anymore. The only thing that makes the CTB decision slightly regrettable is that I worked so freaking hard to get out of poverty, all-nighters working/studying and ulcers. Yet I won't even touch most of my savings. But the option to live isn't a better option: I'm tired of having to do everything myself; I want out.
 
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Schweppes

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Apr 20, 2020
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Not rich either but if I was, I wouldn't want to ctb as much. It would mean I'd be able to get out of the situation I'm stuck in, pay off crippling debt, start over and if I did chose to ctb I'd have more options available to me like N. Money doesn't buy happiness but it can be a huge help.
I agree
 
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maru.

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Yes I'm with you on that I have no energy to do anything I'm sorry your situation sounds bad, was it your choice to study or your families all I can suggest if you are going to drop out is to have an action plan the trouble unskilled workers are low paid unless you have an excellent business idea so your parents and sister will be disappointed and you are in for a hell of a ride.

You situation isn't unique every Country in the World there are parents who persuade (force) there children the best thing is to follow in there footsteps as a career unfortunately I met a young American guy on here we became good friends he told me his mum was a lawyer and very stern paid for him to attend college and university to become a lawyer but he dropped out and moved to the UK, he liked London but hated his work he said it was unskilled and low paid was treated like crap and well you can guess what he chose in the end.

So my friend I hope you have a excellent action plan to get your sister and parents of your back.

Sorry I couldn't be more help, I wish you all the best.

Cheers

Geo

First i'd like to say that i apologize if i sounded rude in my reply to you, i get very defensive when talking about all of this, cuz it's easy for me to feel attacked, but it's my fault, so i'm sorry if i came off like that.

About the situation i'm in, i wasn't really pressured to go to med school.
I had a hard time choosing a career, because i hated every single one.
The thing is, my problem was deeper, i hated the very idea of adulthood, growing up, the real world.
I loved being a teen, i loved having an easy and carefree life where everything was just good fun and nothing mattered.
So, the time to apply to entrance exams came, and i had to choose something.
I figured, since i despise everything anyway, just pick Medicine, it was a win-win.
My parents will be happy (they didn't pressure me, but i knew that this is what they wanted me to do, so it was more of an indirect pressure).
If i fail, i have an excuse, because it's the hardest one to pass, and if i succeed, i'll have that high, of being admired, of being complimented for the achivement.
I always cared deeply about my image, about compliments, about this positive feedback, and at that point in my life, i was starving for it.
The moment i said i would try med school, they were filled with joy, and that gave me a high.
Some colleagues/friends and some of their parents also stroked my ego as well, which gave me a high too.
Eventually i was able to pass in this stupid expensive college i mentioned, and that takes us to where i'm at now.
It was also during the year where i passed my entrance exam, 2017, where i think my sadness truly became depression.
I can think of one specific point, where i got rejected by the only girl i ever loved, that was the day i died.
Not just because of the rejection, obviously, but because of all of the things that it made me finally realise.
The friends and colleagues i've studies with for 7 years? Gone.
My hopes of being with this one girl? Gone?
That fun carefree life where everything was easy and always went my way? Gone.
I finally realised that i'm not the protagonist, i'm not special, i realised that some people live and die miserable and i can be one of those people.
I guess i got a reality check for the first time in my life.
Maybe i've talked enough, but i think it's important to mention that it was after this one event in my life that everything just stopped.
I was the best in my high school class, or at least one of the best.
Ever since that day where i had all of these realizations, studying went from being even fun, to being torture, and now i'm always the worst in my college class.
I also used to draw a lot, in my deviantart, my 2016 folder has almost 150 drawings, 2017 has less than 20, folders after that have less than 10.
I don't know, it's like i just can't feel pleasure anymore, i just stopped caring about things in the last few years.
I barely have the energy to get out of bed nowadays, i feel tired all of the time even though i do nothing.
I don't have dreams, i don't have goals, i can't see myself as an adult, i guess i just don't make the cut, i don't know.
And that's why i'm on this site, as far as i'm concerned, i'm not even apt to live, if i stay alive things will just get worse with time, might aswell quit now.
 
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Jumper Geo

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Life's a bitch and then you die.
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Sorry to hear your pain, your not a lone I think there are lots of us who fell in love with someone who didn't feel the same way and broke our :heart::heart::heart: life is shit like that You need a confidence boost, if you pass your medical exams and become a doctor think of all them beautiful nurses you will be working with.:blarg:

I hope you find peace
 
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lion4000b

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Im actually rich. Well into 7 figures. I could do most things I want - buy a nice sports car, catch a business class flight overseas, rent a high class hooker etc. Basically Im in the top 1% of earners (I suspect). But I dont do any of that. I have chronic health problems and Im in chronic pain and I basically do nothing and see nobody. I just wake up and try and grind through each day hoping the pain, nausea, anxiety, depression etc isn't too bad. The best part of my day is sleeping. Money gives me more CTB options and reduces life stresses because it can solve certain problems, but Ive been flat broke (grew up poor) and I was 1000x happier then. Asking whether its more difficult to CTB when you have money is no different from if you have something else in life that brings you pleasure - a passion for music, a beautiful wife, children you adore, a talent that could bring you great fame and fortune etc. Add up all the positives minues the negatives and ask yourself "is life worth the candle?" as Alan Watts says. All I can say is that I would swap all my wealth in a second for my health - a clear mind and strong body, even if for just 5 minutes before I die.
 
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K-O

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guilty! but 99% of my money goes strait up my nose
 
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I'm not wealthy but I do not have to work and I have most things I need
Life just feels totally meaningless
And I'm on this website .
 
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