Is the sodium azide poisoning similar to SN method?

[Szinuus]

What do we really know about this poison? How painful is ingesting it?

 

[onetapgandhi]

More than SN but less than SC. Supposedly worst migrain you'll ever have and body aches and tremors and other scary shit
Dose needed is lesser than SN and the regime is same. Faster acting even. No chance of failure.

 

[MelodyCymbal]

More than SN but less than SC. Supposedly worst migrain you'll ever have and body aches and tremors and other scary shit
Dose needed is lesser than SN and the regime is same. Faster acting even. No chance of failure.

No antidote for it too

 

[brokenpersi]

You live in Poland, as i remember ,so there it shouldn't be a problem to obtain SN which is as far as I know just better option.

But I'm not an expert. Haven't tried any of methods yet as you can see ;))
I'm from Poland too btw

 

[Hateyouprolife]

Just stating the fact that car airbag contains up to 50g sodium azide that I imagine could be obtained from junkyard but not sure about that. What I wonder is how is it not converted to sodium hydroxide when ingested?

 

[littlelady774]

^ it's converted to hydrazoic acid when mixed with stomach acid, which is explosive at room temperature.

I did a thread on the biochemistry of SN:

The Biochemistry of Methemoglobinemia and SN ingestion

I've written a small essay of what that happens in our body when we ingest sodium nitrite. I will do my best to describe the pathology and biochemistry of methemoglobinemia and nitrite poisoning. This is from my own research and I will post the sources from scientific articles and journals...

sanctioned-suicide.net

With SN, there is a lack of oxygen delivered to the tissues. It's a slower process, but it eventually leads to lactic acidosis and cell death.

With SA, from my understanding, it prevents cells from using oxygen for their metabolic processes. It affects the brain and heart the most. I don't know if you're awake when cells start dying, but I know you get a really bad headache.

 

[reverse03]

How long does it take for a successful attempt? I mean it is not painless and less peaceful but if it is just a short time and someone really wants to ctb it can be a better option.

 

[littlelady774]

How long does it take for a successful attempt? I mean it is not painless and less peaceful but if it is just a short time and someone really wants to ctb it can be a better option.

The ppeh says loss of consciousness is in 30 minutes, and time of death is an hour or more

 

[UpandDownPrincess]

Nope. It is closer to cyanide poisoning than to SN. Don't be fooled by the fact that they both start with sodium. Sodium is one of the whores of the chemical world - it bonds with anything.

And it's gonna hurt, full stop.

There is also a danger to first responders if they try to revive you by mouth-to-mouth. The hydrazoic acid created in your system can be inhaled by your rescuer and cause them to be poisoned. Wear a sign around your neck.

Most of literature gives time to death estimates at more than an hour - some several days - although loss of consciousness happens sooner.

Ironically, nitrates , including SN, can be given as an antidote to Sodium Azide poisoning. They do not usually work.

The worry is that people do occasionally survive, but often with neurological damage. Most of the few who survive were exposed to the chemical in a lab or factory setting over a period of time, This is one chemical where taking enough and taking it quickly is imperative.
(Edited for clarity.)

 

[stilhavinightmares]

This might be pointless to post but thank you so much for the biochem explanations, you guys.

 

[unattainable piscie]

There is also a danger to first responders if they try to revive you by mouth-to-mouth. The hydrazoic acid created in your system can be inhaled by your rescuer and cause them to be poisoned. Wear a sign around your neck.

While I don't think I'd ever consider this method based on everything else everyone is saying, this is genuinely something I never would have thought about or considered, thanks so much for sharing the info!