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hopelessandbroken
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- May 25, 2019
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Do you think that suicide is selfish or not? I have never seen suicide as a selfish act but i kinda understand why many people think it is and i was wondering what do you think.
those people telling you that are SELFISH because they cant seem to let go themselves. So now you have to suffer for the rest of your life just because of their feelings? Really watching them laugh, and actually enjoy life while your stuck living in hell. Im sorry my aunt says the same thing so I know what you're talking about. But yeah you're not selfish at all.Do you think that suicide is selfish or not? I have never seen suicide as a selfish act but i kinda understand why many people think it is and i was wondering what do you think.
Yes, I think suicide is selfish.
@Epsilon0
Well if we go by that definition, then suicide is not selfish. I was going by the translation "egoistisch", egoistical, acting (only) out of self interest, but I realize selfishness is a loaded term and usually has a negative connotation.
I subscribe to psychological egoism and think everything you ever do is motivated out of self interest. Now, even of you don't think that this is true, and I admit there are some such suicides—kamikazi pilots, politically motivated suicides, throwing yourself on a grenade—that could be described as altruistic; most suicides are motivated by personal suffering and the desire to end it, or a feeling of being a burden to others. Now if you want to portray the latter as altruistic behaviour, fine—I still think that the feeling of being a burden to others stems from feelings of guilt, and suicide is an attempt to get rid of those feelings and is thus an act out of self-interest.
It is grossly selfish to require of one's neighbor that he should think in the same way, and hold the same opinions
Well, when it comes to human behaviour and motivation, I am by default skeptical. Why philosophize at all then? Why debate over the truth? if not to make your neighbour think the way you do? Since you started quoting people, I will quote Thomas Szasz:
»In the animal kingdom, the rule is, eat or be eaten; in the human kingdom, define or be defined.«