Discussion Is suicide condemnation correlated with "tough love" attitudes?

[ericwilkinson]

Does anyone else realize this? My guidance counselor was religious and said "suicide is never the answer" but apart from that, I wasn't surprised that he belittled my problems. I said I wanted to drop out because the teachers were making noise. He said that "there were kids in this school who heard their mothers getting beaten and raped by their fathers and finished their education". (fyi, he DID actually say that, not a joke).

I also saw a profile on Quora of someone who has anti-suicide and on other posts, he called people who disobeyed authority figures for whaterver reason *brats* (commentors were telling him on his answer to the question he was being unreasonable) and he was obsessed with politeness (expected his kids to call him yes sir).

This is a trend isn't it? Some sociologists/psychologists could explain. There is a correlation between anti-suicide beliefs and conservatism even in non-religious folks.

Just look for yourself guys. I can GUARANTEE that all the people in your life who are vehemently anti-suicide are also the ones who would call mentally ill people in the west are lazy, selfish, spoiled.

Am I right or not?

 

[Joannf]

Does anyone else realize this? My guidance counselor was religious and said "suicide is never the answer" but apart from that, I wasn't surprised that he belittled my problems. I said I wanted to drop out because the teachers were making noise. He said that "there were kids in this school who heard their mothers getting beaten and raped by their fathers and finished their education". (fyi, he DID actually say that, not a joke).

I also saw a profile on Quora of someone who has anti-suicide and on other posts, he called people who disobeyed authority figures for whaterver reason *brats* (commentors were telling him on his answer to the question he was being unreasonable) and he was obsessed with politeness (expected his kids to call him yes sir).

This is a trend isn't it? Some sociologists/psychologists could explain. There is a correlation between anti-suicide beliefs and conservatism even in non-religious folks.

Just look for yourself guys. I can GUARANTEE that all the people in your life who are vehemently anti-suicide are also the ones who would call mentally ill people in the west are lazy, selfish, spoiled.

Am I right or not?

You sound like some political influencer, a PR guy. Conservatives are evil, Old White Men want to keep us from fleeing this world so they can keep oppressing us, is that it ? We need Socialism, correct ? Interesting... sociologists could no doubt explain.. not a joke. But I think we can very well manage on our own, and we need neither their permission nor yours.

 

[TAW122]

In a simple answer, yes I think this is the case. A lot of suicide condemnation draws very similar parallels to tough love and guilt trips. In fact, people who condemn it and want to impose their will on others are worse than the people who simply just CTB.

 

[Joannf]

In a simple answer, yes I think this is the case. A lot of suicide condemnation draws very similar parallels to tough love and guilt trips. In fact, people who condemn it and want to impose their will on others are worse than the people who simply just CTB.

People who condemn suicide are worse than those who simply die without discussion ? An interesting perspective.
It's mostly relatives who will condemn suicide in the family - so I hope you don't mean that... they are just horrified at losing lived ones.
Apart from that, it's religious people.
But while our own religious people merely grumble (should we forbid that?), others prohibit suicide.
What are Progressives at this time doing to legally normalize suicide in the West ?
Btw, who actually cares. It's always been pointless to prohibit suicide, but people should be allowed their opinion.
It's always been pointless to prohibit opinions...