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MethodIs anyone drawn to water? Drowning as a method!
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Since I was a kid, I've always held my head under water to help with migraines, block out the world, help with stress, relax etc. There's a peacefulness under water!
Maybe that's partly why i'm drawn to drowning as a method!
Can anyone relate to this?
Even if you can't relate, i'm curious what method would you
use to drown yourself?
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I also used to hold my head under water, and am also drawn to drowning as my method. My only "real" attempt that hospitalized me was a drowning attempt via cold-shock response (spoiler alert: it did not work). After that failed, my plan was to jump off a relatively short bridge into a deep river, with a backpack of weights securely attached to me via a contraption of my own making. When the time came, I was fully ready to drown, I had imagined each step of the drowning process in detail and was ready for the pain, as well as being at peace with my death, but I was too scared to jump!!
So if you can find a better way to access deep water--maybe a boat or something--then I'd say drowning in cold water with weights is a good method, especially if you have benzos or some other calming drug on hand.
Disclaimer: obviously if you choose drowning, you have to be prepared to experience the worst pain of your life.
Ive told this story before but I'll tell it again. back in 2017, I was at a beach in Mexico with friends and it was the first time id been in the Pacific Ocean. I had no idea how strong the water and the undertow would be and before I knew it, I was out pretty far and having a great deal of difficulty getting back to land. The water had gotten a hold of me and I was really struggling to get back. I became very exhausted and having trouble staying above water. I actually started to think that this might be it. It was absolutely terrifying. Luckily, a huge wave had come through and sent me closer to the beach and I was able to get to land with only loosing one contact lens and nothing else. I survived but I have to saying it was possibly the scariest moment of my life. The feeling that you are loosing control and might be drowning was so damn frightening. My mind was going in a million different directions. I am only bringing this up because if you choose drowning as a method, not only will it be painful way to go, there is a strong chance yr SI will kick in and it will do everything it can to get you out of that situation.
Just something to consider.
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Since I was a kid, I've always held my head under water to help with migraines, block out the world, help with stress, relax etc. There's a peacefulness under water!
I was close to fainting underwater after long breath holding once, and I remember that feeling of tranquility which I had back then. I'm definitely not scared of drowning, and I could use it to CTB if my most favourite method were unavailable for some reason. As far as I can see, in terms of comfort/discomfort, the experience of drowning varies a lot from individual to individual. Some survivors mention intense anxiety (which might occur because they didn't plan to die this way) and significant physical discomfort, while others describe their experience as quite peaceful. The differences must be determined by the circumstances: physical and mental conditions of the person, water temperature, whether consciousness is lost prior to aspiration of water, the presence of irritants dissolved in water if it's inhaled before loss of consciousness.
I'd likely prefer to drown in a lake, although I could use a river or a bathtub as well. As I easily sink, I wouldn't use any weights in case of drowning in a big pool of water, such as a lake. Before submerging, I would breathe nitrous (obtained from nangs and pumped into a balloon) with air or oxygen to the point when the analgesic effect of the gas is achieved (by the way, it has anxiolytic effect too). Then I would inhale pure nitrous to displace oxygen in the lungs while staying in water and submerge when the sense of impending fainting occurs. I think, regaining consciousness is very unlikely in this case, and even if it happens somehow, I probably wouldn't care about the perceptions from drowning under influence of the laughing gas anyway.
You are braver than me. I was waterboarded once. And if that is what if feels like to drown -- no thank you.
But I did have a friend who drown in the swimming pool at her apartment complex. I know she had been drinking but I don't know how much or for how long that day. I also don't know if she mixed pills with her alcohol. I know she had in the past but then, she didn't drown in the past either. I am pretty sure she was not suicidal -- ME rules it accidental so I guess they didn't find anything to make them think it was either.
Waterboarding is a method of suffocation that works similarly to placing a plastic bag over the head. It restricts respiration, producing a massive CO2 buildup which causes unpleasant tension in the chest, intense sense of stuffiness, and possibly anxiety.
In this procedure, the individual is bound securely to an inclined bench, which is approximately four feet by seven feet. The individual's feet are generally elevated. A cloth is placed over the forehead and eyes. Water is then applied to the cloth in a controlled manner. As this is done, the cloth is lowered until it covers both the nose and mouth. Once the cloth is saturated and completely covers the mouth and nose, air flow is slightly restricted for 20 to 40 seconds due to the presence of the cloth. This causes an increase in carbon dioxide level in the individual's blood. This increase in the carbon dioxide level stimulates increased effort to breathe. This effort plus the cloth produces the perception of "suffocation and incipient panic," i.e., the perception of drowning. The individual does not breathe any water into his lungs. During those 20 to 40 seconds, water is continuously applied from a height of twelve to twenty-four inches. After this period, the cloth is lifted, and the individual is allowed to breathe unimpeded for three or four full breaths. The sensation of drowning is immediately relieved by the removal of the cloth. The procedure may then be repeated. The water is usually applied from a canteen cup or small watering can with spout. ... it is likely that this procedure would not last more than 20 minutes in any one application.
In one of the worst scenarios of drowning, when aspiration of water into the lungs is blocked by laryngospasm and the person remains conscious, it is possible to perceive discomfort from exposure to high concentrations of CO2 for a relatively long time. Since I've almost achieved fainting in approximately 4 minutes when holding breath with the lungs full or air, it looks like 4 minutes would be the maximum theoretically possible period of conscious suffocation (with excess of CO2) I could have in a drowning attempt. But in practice I can easily delay the urge to breathe for 2 minutes using hyperventilation, thus reducing conscious exposure to high CO2 levels to 2 minutes at most. In the last half a minute before the sense of impending fainting occurs, the urge to breathe and the sense of suffocation may completely disappear (as it disappeared in my near-blackout experience), so the duration of my suffering from hypercapnia would likely not exceed 1.5 minutes in case if I attempted the optimal zero-cost approach with simple hyperventilation - when no supplementary means (such as nitrous) that render quick unconsciousness are used.
There is also a research that mentions drowning (implying the cessation of visible activity) within 2 minutes for all considered persons:
I think, 1.5 - 2 minutes of discomfort from carbon dioxide and/or aspiration of water can be a quite acceptable price for exit for a homeless person with no money. It's nowhere near to 10 - 20 minutes of torture (like waterboarding) that can be done in a nonconsensual way. On the other hand, $5 - $10 should suffice for the advanced technique of drowning that allows rendering unconsciousness in ~30 seconds with little to no discomfort.
Damn, you were tortured once?! If you don't mind me asking was this some form of intense bullying in school/college? I kinda doubt you were in Abu Graib...
Back to topic: I live on the coast and since going peacefully with pills didn't work I have actually been thinking about it a lot. There is Mole near where I live that at least on weekdays in the middle of the night is completely deserted. I already spend time there to test that including on the other side of the little barrier. I had no intention to jump at this point, just testing whether I'm still physically able to get across it. I have some weights from way back when I was healthier and wanted to exercise more that I used maybe twice. I would put them in my backpack and secure it with a simple bicycle lock to prevent myself from shrugging it off. I can't swim and would probably sink like a stone even without them but better safe than sorry.
I'm too much of a coward to do the jump but I could take 300mg of liquidized Diazepam, that knocked me out quickly enough (too quick actually) last time but I'm under no illusion that that would render me so deeply unconscious that I wouldn't wake up from the fall into cold ocean water and I'd probably experience 2 minutes of intense pain until I fall unconscious from lack of oxygen.
I am in constant pain so what are 2 minutes of more intense pain? I would just need to grow a pair and I could be gone by tonight.
But I won't.
Damn, you were tortured once?! If you don't mind me asking was this some form of intense bullying in school/college? I kinda doubt you were in Abu Graib...
Back to topic: I live on the coast and since going peacefully with pills didn't work I have actually been thinking about it a lot. There is Mole near where I live that at least on weekdays in the middle of the night is completely deserted. I already spend time there to test that including on the other side of the little barrier. I had no intention to jump at this point, just testing whether I'm still physically able to get across it. I have some weights from way back when I was healthier and wanted to exercise more that I used maybe twice. I would put them in my backpack and secure it with a simple bicycle lock to prevent myself from shrugging it off. I can't swim and would probably sink like a stone even without them but better safe than sorry.
I'm too much of a coward to do the jump but I could take 300mg of liquidized Diazepam, that knocked me out quickly enough (too quick actually) last time but I'm under no illusion that that would render me so deeply unconscious that I wouldn't wake up from the fall into cold ocean water and I'd probably experience 2 minutes of intense pain until I fall unconscious from lack of oxygen.
I am in constant pain so what are 2 minutes of more intense pain? I would just need to grow a pair and I could be gone by tonight.
But I won't.
Yep. Tortured. Family. My mom showed her affection is some really bizarre ways. And her enabling husband (yes, my dad) made sure she got away with it. When I got pneumonia from inhaling water, he made sure I got the antibiotics I needed so I never saw a "real" doctor.
And I know just how you feel. (Chronic pain issues from injuries from a tree dropping a branch on me.) Sucks ass and I am sorry you are dealing with unrelenting pain issues also.
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no thank you.
I am pretty sure she was not suicidal -- ME rules it accidental so I guess they didn't find anything to make them think it was either.
