PhilosOfDoom

PhilosOfDoom

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Nov 22, 2019
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I've started writing a resources thread about self-hate, e.g what it truly is, how it becomes a cycle, links and Redditors on a thread I titled, "What would you say to someone who hates themselves" for 3rd party opinions, all of this is for practical advice and non pro-life encouragement, etc. Afterall, I've seen many people on ss turn to this, and it's downright depressing to see someone retreat from help with the mantra of, "I do not deserve this." They don't get help, nor feel worthy of it.

The main purpose is to bring them away from their thought pattern that's been ingrained into their minds again and again. I plan on sifting through websites, media comments, videos, and so forth. The plan is to use a spreadsheet to aggregate all of the sources, time stamps, and more into a singular place so I can articulate it into a singular post, sharing the research, advice, and more. I may decide to make a PDF for solutions to the common problems associated with the unfortunate pattern after aggregating enough research into citations. Now, of course this is going to take a moderate amount of time to format the post itself, in addition the secondary parts, like research, fact checking, and the PDF.

Does anyone have any interest of such a post, or particular requests like things to put in it; or formatting? I just thought it'd be potentially useful, and a an excuse to go on a research spree. Cheers.
 
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GoodPersonEffed

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I no longer hate myself, haven't for a good 30 years now thank god or whatever, but I would still be very interested to see it. I am always saddened when I see such posts, and have to just wish everyone well and stop reading because there's nothing I can do to help change it. Perhaps you can.
 
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PhilosOfDoom

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I no longer hate myself, haven't for a good 30 years now thank god or whatever, but I would still be very interested to see it. I am always saddened when I see such posts, and have to just wish everyone well and stop reading because there's nothing I can do to help change it. Perhaps you can.
While it's primarily going to be research based, can you describe your personal experience with it? Unless it's too personal. I'm interested in how the people who actually have it experience it as, to get as good as grasp of it as possible, a grasp of the raw feelings. Hopefully I can change some minds, we'll have to see.
 
GoodPersonEffed

GoodPersonEffed

Brevity is my middle name, but my name was TL
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While it's primarily going to be research based, can you describe your personal experience with it? Unless it's too personal. I'm interested in how the people who actually have it experience it as, to get as good as grasp of it as possible, a grasp of the raw feelings. Hopefully I can change some minds, we'll have to see.

It was like an awful mirror turned inward, the hate and rejection of others directed inside. It was a rejection of my self. Negation. It was like holding a hot coal for others and burning my internal self with it.
 
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PhilosOfDoom

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Nov 22, 2019
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It was like an awful mirror turned inward, the hate and rejection of others directed inside. It was a rejection of my self. Negation. It was like holding a hot coal for others and burning my internal self with it.
Hate and rejection, denying yourself, burning, such a powerful and painful description. I'm sorry you had to deal with that. So they think of themselves with disdain and disgust for their perceived inferiority, and viewing themselves with hostility. Feeling like you are incapable of being with anyone, that you are repulsive vermin not deserving of anything humane, it sounds like the worst that can happen to a human being, to hate themselves with such passion and fury. How'd you get yourself out of it?
 
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Hate and rejection, denying yourself, burning, such a powerful and painful description. I'm sorry you had to deal with that. So they think of themselves with disdain and disgust for their perceived inferiority, and viewing themselves with hostility. Feeling like you are incapable of being with anyone, that you are repulsive vermin not deserving of anything humane, it sounds like the worst that can happen to a human being, to hate themselves with such passion and fury. How'd you get yourself out of it?

Yeah, folks who feel that hate themselves way worse than I ever did.

For me, it was getting out of bad environments. I was emotionally bullied from grade school through high school, and abused, bullied, rejected for my very self, and controlled at home. A radical change of scenery did wonders.

I think I never truly hated myself, I think it was more of a reflection of others' unearned disdain and rejection. I was often hated and/or rejected just for being me -- outgoing, upbeat, enthusiastic, genuine, intelligent, unguarded, and, unfortunately, also naive, unaware, and nerdy. I was a late bloomer.
 
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PhilosOfDoom

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Yeah, folks who feel that hate themselves way worse than I ever did.

For me, it was getting out of bad environments. I was emotionally bullied from grade school through high school, and abused, bullied, rejected for my very self, and controlled at home. A radical change of scenery did wonders.

I think I never truly hated myself, I think it was more of a reflection of others' unearned disdain and rejection. I was often hated and/or rejected just for being me -- outgoing, upbeat, enthusiastic, genuine, intelligent, unguarded, and, unfortunately, also naive, unaware, and nerdy. I was a late bloomer.
Ah, so it was moreso you didn't have a true semblance of hatred, but everyone else projected their unearned negative emotions and inhumane mistreatment into you that they made you start feeling ,,their emotions," but it wasn't from your innate self, but others' perception? That's legitimately fucked up. So for you the removal from that exposure slowly tipped the scales back, so to speak. I am glad you withdrew that environment, and thank you very much for the insight.