I'm bouncing back to the fact that SaSu was down for a while yesterday and that made me mad at the pro-lifers and Tantacrul.

[disabledlife]

Yesterday I was panicked that SaSu was shut down, especially permanently shut down!

I think it would be urgent for SaSu to think of a redundancy of this forum on another host, in case the pro-lifers have succeeded in killing this forum by the current host.

I'm afraid this forum is closing. Administrators should think about redundancies on several hosts to prevent these attacks!

I read the comments on Tantactul's video, there are always new ones, because his video always has more and more views, it's scary. The comments under his video call us psychopaths, toxic people, criminals... While SaSu was no longer functional, there were comments under Tantacrul's video from people happy to see SaSu down and hoping for a shutdown definitive, with the insults against us!

Tantacrul has woken up the pro-lifers, who have a blast reporting this forum wherever they can, I'm afraid.

Obviously, under his video, there are only pro-life comments, the censorship worked very well, thank you YouTube and Google, which likes to use the shadowban, to manipulate minds, it looks like totalitarian countries!

I want SaSu to be able to continue to exist because all the members of this forum have supported me in the difficult times of my life, allowing me to postpone my CTB until later.

If this forum disappears, I don't know how I'm going to be, I risk CTB immediately, because I'm afraid of being cornered in the prison of life!

Many people should be able to report Tantacrul's video in return, to make YouTube's AI react and shut down this video before it does any damage.

SaSu has links for donations, see announcements at the top of the SaSu site. During Christmas, SaSu apparently received a lot of donations. It could help him to have another backup host, see two other hosts.

With several hosts and a redundancy of SaSu on several servers, in several countries, if anyone manages to shut down SaSu at one of the hosts (pro-lifers who would have massively reported SaSu to the hosts, to the authorities of any country), backup hosts will keep SaSu always open.

As you have noticed, SaSu now has a connection verification system, see a captcha (Cloudflare), a desperate attempt to fight against massive attacks, such as Ddos precisely.

But apparently that's not enough, because if it's not botnets, so robots, it can be massive attacks made by humans paid for it. Worse still, ways have been found to automatically solve captchas, in particular by making the site believe that there is a first connection and thanks to artificial intelligence! I'm sure ChatGPT would be able to solve some captchas.

I was born disabled, abused, experienced bullying at school and from an entire city during my childhood and part of my adult life...

I'm rejected, hated, a burden to others, autistic,...I never had justice against my parents. My country is the country of the parents-kings! I got kicked out of my shitty High IQ association (see my other posts and threads) for complaining about my life too often!

Thank you SaSu members for supporting me when I was totally alone and lynched by my association High IQ, thank you for existing, and for making this forum exist, to allow the ultimate freedom of expression without censorship and the possibility of being able to leave life as one wishes (CTB, euthanasia...)!

I created lots of threads and posts in SaSu to tell my story.

 

[jodes2]

Long live SS

 

[WaitingToGo]

Yesterday I was panicked that SaSu was shut down, especially permanently shut down!

I think it would be urgent for SaSu to think of a redundancy of this forum on another host, in case the pro-lifers have succeeded in killing this forum by the current host.

I'm afraid this forum is closing. Administrators should think about redundancies on several hosts to prevent these attacks!

I read the comments on Tantactul's video, there are always new ones, because his video always has more and more views, it's scary. The comments under his video call us psychopaths, toxic people, criminals... While SaSu was no longer functional, there were comments under Tantacrul's video from people happy to see SaSu down and hoping for a shutdown definitive, with the insults against us!

Tantacrul has woken up the pro-lifers, who have a blast reporting this forum wherever they can, I'm afraid.

Obviously, under his video, there are only pro-life comments, the censorship worked very well, thank you YouTube and Google, which likes to use the shadowban, to manipulate minds, it looks like totalitarian countries!

I want SaSu to be able to continue to exist because all the members of this forum have supported me in the difficult times of my life, allowing me to postpone my CTB until later.

If this forum disappears, I don't know how I'm going to be, I risk CTB immediately, because I'm afraid of being cornered in the prison of life!

Many people should be able to report Tantacrul's video in return, to make YouTube's AI react and shut down this video before it does any damage.

SaSu has links for donations, see announcements at the top of the SaSu site. During Christmas, SaSu apparently received a lot of donations. It could help him to have another backup host, see two other hosts.

With several hosts and a redundancy of SaSu on several servers, in several countries, if anyone manages to shut down SaSu at one of the hosts (pro-lifers who would have massively reported SaSu to the hosts, to the authorities of any country), backup hosts will keep SaSu always open.

As you have noticed, SaSu now has a connection verification system, see a captcha (Cloudflare), a desperate attempt to fight against massive attacks, such as Ddos precisely.

But apparently that's not enough, because if it's not botnets, so robots, it can be massive attacks made by humans paid for it. Worse still, ways have been found to automatically solve captchas, in particular by making the site believe that there is a first connection and thanks to artificial intelligence! I'm sure ChatGPT would be able to solve some captchas.

I was born disabled, abused, experienced bullying at school and from an entire city during my childhood and part of my adult life...

I'm rejected, hated, a burden to others, autistic,...I never had justice against my parents. My country is the country of the parents-kings! I got kicked out of my shitty High IQ association (see my other posts and threads) for complaining about my life too often!

Thank you SaSu members for supporting me when I was totally alone and lynched by my association High IQ, thank you for existing, and for making this forum exist, to allow the ultimate freedom of expression without censorship and the possibility of being able to leave life as one wishes (CTB, euthanasia...)!

I created lots of threads and posts in SaSu to tell my story.

Agree with you. I was a bit panicky when the site stopped working yesterday. It's vital this place remains open for all our sakes

 

[freedompass]

It is very concerning to think that SaSu's existence could be threatened. I firmly believe this place does more to support suicidal people and paradoxically keep them alive, than any number of misguided suicide prevention strategies. It is a big comfort in my day to day and allows an outlet for feelings and views that are unwelcome everywhere else. Personally I couldn't even be bothered to watch the tantacrul video, I don't have space in my brain to deal with all that.

 

[Implicationz]

SS kept me around for another month after my wife died.
It made me think long and hard about things. It's honestly a very decent place to be when you are vulnerable.

 

[ilovecats]

SS made me feel understood for the first time. I am really thankful to everyone from SS that actually tried to understand what I was saying instead of labelling me as a psychopath.

 

[BlissfulVoid]

You don't "help" someone by taking away their options; you do it by giving them more options, and by allowing them to explore those options as they see fit.

This website is a valuable tool, regardless of our individual reasons for using it. Not only does it provide critical information, which can be used to make informed decisions (with the intent to minimize harm/pain for everyone involved), but it also provides a caring and understanding community. Both of these are things in short supply elsewhere. Getting websites like this one shut down, would likely only cause an increase in CTBs, on account of people like us having nowhere to turn to.

I am incredibly happy to have found this community, and to finally be able to speak my mind on my innermost thoughts. I don't know if my CTB thoughts will ever be completely gone, but knowing that I can come here, has at least provided some much needed relief.

 

[ThisIsLife]

Tantacrul is so stupid he thinks he will stop people he doesn't know from dying volontarily by censoring them.

How people give him views and money on top of this nonsense is beyond me.

 

[immrw]

I can't talk about my suicidal thoughts to people in my life--they react negatively as if i'm some freak.
I can't talk about my suicidal thoughts with my therapist, because then I'll be 5150'd and have to spend thousands of dollars in a psych ward.

SS is the only place I can share my suicidal thoughts without being shamed or punished for it.

 

[FuneralCry]

If the site goes then there is nothing that we can do about it. Nothing ever lasts in this life and everything just leads to more suffering as long as we exist. Only death could ever bring me true relief from the curse that is existence.

 

[lionetta12]

Yesterday I was panicked that SaSu was shut down, especially permanently shut down!

I think it would be urgent for SaSu to think of a redundancy of this forum on another host, in case the pro-lifers have succeeded in killing this forum by the current host.

I'm afraid this forum is closing. Administrators should think about redundancies on several hosts to prevent these attacks!

I read the comments on Tantactul's video, there are always new ones, because his video always has more and more views, it's scary. The comments under his video call us psychopaths, toxic people, criminals... While SaSu was no longer functional, there were comments under Tantacrul's video from people happy to see SaSu down and hoping for a shutdown definitive, with the insults against us!

Tantacrul has woken up the pro-lifers, who have a blast reporting this forum wherever they can, I'm afraid.

Obviously, under his video, there are only pro-life comments, the censorship worked very well, thank you YouTube and Google, which likes to use the shadowban, to manipulate minds, it looks like totalitarian countries!

I want SaSu to be able to continue to exist because all the members of this forum have supported me in the difficult times of my life, allowing me to postpone my CTB until later.

If this forum disappears, I don't know how I'm going to be, I risk CTB immediately, because I'm afraid of being cornered in the prison of life!

Many people should be able to report Tantacrul's video in return, to make YouTube's AI react and shut down this video before it does any damage.

SaSu has links for donations, see announcements at the top of the SaSu site. During Christmas, SaSu apparently received a lot of donations. It could help him to have another backup host, see two other hosts.

With several hosts and a redundancy of SaSu on several servers, in several countries, if anyone manages to shut down SaSu at one of the hosts (pro-lifers who would have massively reported SaSu to the hosts, to the authorities of any country), backup hosts will keep SaSu always open.

As you have noticed, SaSu now has a connection verification system, see a captcha (Cloudflare), a desperate attempt to fight against massive attacks, such as Ddos precisely.

But apparently that's not enough, because if it's not botnets, so robots, it can be massive attacks made by humans paid for it. Worse still, ways have been found to automatically solve captchas, in particular by making the site believe that there is a first connection and thanks to artificial intelligence! I'm sure ChatGPT would be able to solve some captchas.

I was born disabled, abused, experienced bullying at school and from an entire city during my childhood and part of my adult life...

I'm rejected, hated, a burden to others, autistic,...I never had justice against my parents. My country is the country of the parents-kings! I got kicked out of my shitty High IQ association (see my other posts and threads) for complaining about my life too often!

Thank you SaSu members for supporting me when I was totally alone and lynched by my association High IQ, thank you for existing, and for making this forum exist, to allow the ultimate freedom of expression without censorship and the possibility of being able to leave life as one wishes (CTB, euthanasia...)!

I created lots of threads and posts in SaSu to tell my story.

I didn't notice that the site was down, but I read the email I got from SaSu today, I think it would be a good idea for us to get our own server and use a free speech datacenter like they suggested in the email.

 

[disabledlife]

I didn't notice that the site was down, but I read the email I got from SaSu today, I think it would be a good idea for us to get our own server and use a free speech datacenter like they suggested in the email.

I don't receive this e-mail? Please, if possible, send me, in PM, a copy of this e-mail (without personnal data of course). I think my mailbox (Yahoo) is pro-life webmail who hide and delete itself SaSu e-mails. :(
I finally found this e-mail in spam box, fu*k Yahoo.

 

[Thisisme373]

I couldn't get on the site for long time today, I was worried it's shut down, seems like the site is being attacked a lot more recently? This place is a release for me as I cannot talk to family or friends about my thoughts/feelings as they react badly. On here I feel people are more real & understand the pain. This place is very important to me.

 

[Xisalittletired]

I especially come to this forum to calm down when I am feeling like i could impulsively ctb, i was finding it difficult to connect to the site most of today and was panicking. I really, really hope it doesn't get taken down, this is the only place I feel safe.

 

[disabledlife]

SaSu would have to send, by email, the .onion link, it was the only link that worked, well during the Ddos attack. Email has given no other possibilities to contact RainAndSadness when SaSu is no longer available. For donations by means other than cryptocurrency, for example.

Decidedly, the pro-lifers have no limits, no heart, to attack Sasu at this point, I would never leave my life in their hands, that's clear. They will push me to an extremely violent CTB by force, and Sasu will have nothing to do with it, it will be the pro-lifes who are at fault! Sasu never pushed anyone to CTB, quite the contrary!

I suggest close SaSu, temporarily to a guests, the time to found solution against massive connections and attacks. Only .onion address are accessible.

Another solution would be for SaSu to give another address, only accessible to SaSu members, and to inform, on the official addresses, that the site is temporarily inaccessible, so as not to overload the servers. Ddos attacks are truly exhausting, suffocating, for our community, and disrupt the tranquility and need for support of vulnerable people who only have here to communicate without censorship.

 

[NHLTradeRumor]

I was worried as well, I'm glad SaSu is still here. I actually have the ability to talk about my suicidal thoughts honestly here without the worry of being M1'd and being in a mental hospital for a week, and it's relieving. I really hope we don't get shut down, because I know a lot of people find this site helpful.

 

[disabledlife]

While the SaSu was unavailable, other than the .onion link still working, I saw there were almost 2k guests, that number has dropped to around 400 guests at this time (date and time of this message) and SaSu works.

Is it a Ddos attack or just lots of people who came to see SaSu without malicious pretensions, or a mix of both situations?

I wonder how many new members have joined SaSu since the Tantacrul video (Streisand effect).

 

[bijou]

the creator of that video really exposed his unempathetic nature towards an incredibly vulnerable group of individuals.

i hope he realizes his impact and eventually takes the video down. funny because the common sentiment i have seen from fellow new members is "really??? this is what all the fuss was about?"

non-suicidal people want us to reach out for support, when we seek solace with them we are told we are too exhausting to be around. when we make an online space catered to us we are demonized for it.

what is it? do they want us to get better? or do they really just want us to never talk about it, and die quietly and out of their way?
do they want to hone their saviour-complexes in any useful way? clearly they do not.

by shutting this site down what they really want is to pretend we don't exist.
said it before i will say it again
PEER SUPPORT IS A VITAL RESOURCE!

 

[EndlessX]

We should all report his video

We should all report his video

He is pretty stupid since you can find this site through Google easily

 

[JB3567]

Never in a millions years did I think I would be in a position to take my life. But I am and the amount of respect and understanding from other members in the community has been unmatched. Being a member of this community has postponed my cbting and given me hope to continue to push on a little longer while I'm seeking a potential treatment and if it doesn't work out I know I will go in peace. SS must live on!

 

[Unsure and Useless]

How could people claim that they want what's best for others with suicidal thoughts when they're the ones trying to get rid of the only place where we can talk about how we genuinely feel without receiving meaningless platitudes or judgement?

Tantacrul, in his quest to "save" the "poor, depressed people," has only made the situation worse by taking away a safe space. It's really telling how much research he actually performed when he calls the site as a cult and implicitly supported an anti-SaSu group that loves to dox and harass people. Plus, I heard that he monetized the video?

May SaSu overcome this obstacle and live on!

 

[WaitingToGo]

Never in a millions years did I think I would be in a position to take my life. But I am and the amount of respect and understanding from other members in the community has been unmatched. Being a member of this community has postponed my cbting and given me hope to continue to push on a little longer while I'm seeking a potential treatment and if it doesn't work out I know I will go in peace. SS must live on!

Those could've been my words, beautifully put

 

[looking_for_peace]

I just want to know what's going on in that head of his (if anything at all). does he really think he will "fix suicide" by... silencing suicidal people? by sending hordes of his misinformed audience to break the website? people don't just come here looking for information to ctb... I would say the recovery section is just as active. ironically, he's hurting the people he's "trying" to help.

 

[disabledlife]

See the number of dishonest people on YouTube, Facebook, ... who monetize their videos, and the fact that Google, Meta... monetize their platforms, I use Adblock (I recommend UBlock Origin), I don't have ashamed to block ads and anything that traces navigation (cookies for example).

I am told that I am a mean person who, by the fact of blocking advertisements for example, prevents others from earning a living, from having an income, but I honestly don't care about these criticisms. I don't want to see my brain polluted, because the advertisements are abusive, intrusive, even manipulative! I have seen myself installing malware without my knowledge or attempted scams!

I prefer to block the income of dishonest people like Tantacrul, despite getting false positives, ie, unfortunately, honest people cannot earn income. But I'm trying to find a way to whitelist honest people so they can keep getting their income while still blocking other people's income. More and more adblocks have a whitelist system.

It's clear, I would never ever give money (including "free" by the advertising crap that wastes my time) to dishonest people, like Tantacrul precisely, and even less for the platforms! When everything is free, you are the product!

Google, Tiktok, Meta (Instagram, Facebook...), etc., don't need to waste my time looking at their advertisements, they largely make their superprofits by other means, in particular their abuse of monopolies, espionage, theft of private life data, addictions, manipulation of consciences! these platforms have made more and more people, more and more stupid. Idiocracy, the film, however dystopian, is becoming reality, just like 1984 by George Orwell.

Above all, the platforms of the net giants abuse censorship when it does not go their way, as well as highlight comments that go their way, such as comments that demonize SaSu, and censor comments that tell the truth to About SaSu!

Here is proof with the comments that defend SaSu for example, criticize the pro-lifers, under the Tantacrul video, which are censored, with the shadowban, to hide the censorship from the censored people! I didn't see a single comment that opposed Tantacrul and the pro-lifers.

The shadowban consists in hiding the comment from everyone without the person noticing it, by leaving his comment always visible when he is connected to his account, to discover the deception, it is enough to disconnect from his account or to switch accounts and then, with research, find that the comment is gone.

I'm pretty sure a lot of people opposed to Tantacrul have posted comments, unaware of the trickery of being quietly banned in this way.

In addition, a youtubeur can block you, in this case, all your comments are automatically censored by shadowban, on all the videos of the channel that blocked you! It's the same with Instagram and the pages on Facebook.

On the other hand, on Facebook, when a person or a group blocks you, the person or the group becomes invisible to you, you know that you are blocked.

I am used to discovering censorships, bans and all obstacles, I am very often a victim of them, and I sometimes use emergency accounts. Like a journalist who is obliged to do the same to exercise his freedom of the press.

With SaSu, it's the first time that I haven't been the victim of censorship, bans, criticism, lynching, insults... and opponents of this forum are trying to destroy it purely and simply, to silence us and isolate us from force, ostracized from society?

I wonder if these opponents are criminals, because they willfully push anyone to the CTB, by isolating us, insulting us, calling us psychopacts, cults, ostracizing from society, knowing that Samaritans and ordinary people reject us, even lock us up in psychiatric hospitals and prisons.

Willfully pushing anyone into the CTB, including out of meanness and selfishness, out of narcissism (impersonating a life-saving hero), is a crime, even if they don't intend to be criminals first!

Forcing anyone to live, giving them sermons, isolating them from society... to make them live can lead, on the contrary, to suicide, so it's a crime, and Tantacrul is taking this path, everything like his accomplices, especially with the pro-life, insulting comments he leaves posted!

I have never seen criminals among the members, on this forum so far, unlike the pro-lifers, who are criminals in spite of themselves.

 

[anguila_anguila]

It is very concerning to think that SaSu's existence could be threatened. I firmly believe this place does more to support suicidal people and paradoxically keep them alive, than any number of misguided suicide prevention strategies. It is a big comfort in my day to day and allows an outlet for feelings and views that are unwelcome everywhere else. Personally I couldn't even be bothered to watch the tantacrul video, I don't have space in my brain to deal with all that.

He is a bit of an idiot tbh. He's the reason that I found this site :D
In the video he said he was trying to cover up the name of the site to project minors and vulnerable people, but then gave enough information to find this site within a few clicks. Plus he used the acronym SS to represent this website, even though he used a different actual name. Looking back on it, it feels like a recruitment video...

I understand a little why it came up though - when someone close to you does CTB, especially if it is unexpected, then you look for answers, and you look for people to blame, doesn't mean it's right but it does make some sense. The two mothers he featured clearly are going through a lot of trauma and think that the only cause was this website (when we all know it is something that is being considered for a long time). He also didn't represent the site without bias - he didn't even try to present the number of cases of death associated with other social media, and he also didn't really take into account that SS is for suicidal people, so of course there are likely to be more suicides related to it, the clue is in the name! Neither did he provide the argument that maybe some people might have been helped by the community.

 

[KAZ-2Y5]

if anyone wants the onion site (on Tor browser) for SS here it is:
suicidabvrputryeg3mxdwwtwnv3eqj2koztuaiko5zn5rzodtencnad.onion
Just google tor browser and download it for your computer.

 

[Gonnerr]

SaSu is the best site ever, freedom of expression never seen in human history , no bullshit here , only cold hard truth.

Freedom to ctb, we have the right to die.

 

[jbear824]

I would be very distraught if this site went away. I can't talk about my feeling about this to any of the people in my life. This place, though I haven't been here long has allowed me to express the shit in my head. It's been making it easier to cope with.