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noname223

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Aug 18, 2020
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I mean we as a death cult should worship it even in our job life. (irony).

There are many niche or obscure majors nowadays. I am no expert but some sound most normative with only a few methods to do actual research on the hard facts.
Maybe it is good that there are more niche majors. I don't know I am not that much of a science guy.


In the context of this website I read of of experts judging this website. Some were called suicidologists. I don't think there is a major for that. (?)
Most of them seem to be anti-choice.

I think I could never study this subject. At least 50% you have to read there is probably cynical bullshit of people who never experienced severe longterm mental or physical pain. Honestly, I think studying that would be horrible for my mental health.

I don't even can stomach the whole wikipedia article.

Suicidology is the scientific study of suicidal behaviour, the causes of suicidalness and suicide prevention.[1] Every year, about one million people die by suicide, which is a mortality rate of sixteen per 100,000 or one death every forty seconds.[2] Suicidologists believe that suicide is largely preventable with the right actions, knowledge about suicide, and a change in society's view of suicide to make it more acceptable to talk about suicide. There are many different fields and disciplines involved with suicidology, the two primary ones being psychology and sociology.

Lol now after reading this abstract I am even more convinced not to study that. However, I also see an appeal in studying that. Remarkable scientists are often contrarians in their own field and can revolutionize the field with new insights. Maybe I should give reading the wikipedia another chance.

Short history
Most suicidologists think about the history of suicide in terms of courts, church, press, morals, and society. In Ancient Greece, there were several opinions about suicide. It was tolerated and even lauded when committed by patricians (generals and philosophers) but condemned if committed by plebeians (common people) or slaves. In Rome, suicide was viewed rather neutrally, even positively because life was held cheaply.[clarification needed] During early Christianity, excessive martyrdom and a penchant toward suicide frightened church elders sufficiently for them to introduce a serious deterrent. Suicide was thought of as a crime because it precluded possibility of repentance, and it violated the sixth commandment which is Thou shall not kill. During this time, St. Thomas Aquinas emphasized that suicide was a mortal sin because it disrupted God's power over man's life and death. This belief took hold and for hundreds of years thereafter played an important part in the Western view of suicide. Over the last 200 years, the main focus of interventions to prevent suicide has moved from appeals to religious beliefs (which do not always motivate people in contemporary society, which is more secular) to effort at understanding, and preventing the psychological and social influences that lead to suicide

Interesting:

Sigmund Freud and Karl Menninger had similar views on suicide. Their definition of suicide had three different aspects. One was a murder involving hatred or the wish to kill. The second one was a murder by the self often involving guilt or the wish to be killed. The last one is the wish to die. They thought of suicide being a murderous death wish that was turned back upon one's own self. Freud also believed that we had two opposing basic instincts—life (eros) and death (thanatos)—and all instincts sought tension reduction. He also believed that suicide is more likely in advanced civilizations requiring greater repression of sexual and aggressive energy. Jean Baechler's definition of suicide was that suicide denotes all behavior that seeks and finds the solution to an existential problem by making an attempt on the life of the subject. Another worker in the field of suicidology was Joseph H. Davis. The definition he gave for suicide is a fatal willful self-inflicted life-threatening act without apparent desire to live; implicit are two basic components lethality and intent. Albert Camus also did some work in this field. He believed that whether one can live or chooses to live is the only truly serious philosophical problem. He also claimed that man created a god in order to be able to live without a wish to kill himself and that the only human liberty is to come to terms with death. He introduced Darwinian thought into his teachings

Possible attributes of a suicide note
A need to control and direct
A plea for forgiveness
An absolution
Ambivalence and uncertainty
Poignant despair
Remorse and regret
Being a savior/being saved
Altruism
Lack of pleasure
Self-criticism

After reading this I would be interested to watch some lectures. There are some suicide related lectures on youtube. But only doing that would boring as fuck. I think it would equivalent stupid to spend every single evening before going to sleep on a pro-choice suicide forum for almost 4 years straight. Only idiots would do that. Seriously I think I have to deal with this privately every single day no need to do it jobwise.
 
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Dr Iron Arc

Dr Iron Arc

Into the Unknown
Feb 10, 2020
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Even if it were more pro-choice, I would probably not want to willingly study it. Science classes in general have been some of the most annoying and tedious to do for me.
 
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sserafim

sserafim

they say it’s darkest of all before the dawn
Sep 13, 2023
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I'd take a suicidology class just for fun but wouldn't major in it because it wouldn't be lucrative or useful
 
DefinitelyReady

DefinitelyReady

Desperate to go--
Mar 14, 2024
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Not as a major, but as a course sure. I'm interested in why some have this innate survival gene and some could care less about their mortality. How is resilience brought about? Why, or why not, are the basic inherent questions. Social sciences have always been in the forefront for me.
 
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