If Suffering Animals are put to Sleep, Then Why can’t We?!

[purplemoon]

If an animal is suffering... and it is given peaceful N for example, then why can't we also have the same right to a peaceful way out?

Especially when we are choosing for our own life and we ourselves know better than anyone else what our daily life is really like and the painful reality we face.

Once someone is an adult and they've already done their best, tried what they could, or whatever their circumstances are that just make everything so unbearable, why do animals have more rights than we do?

I love animals too, but my point is...why it is that animals are given more sympathy??

What's that old saying...They shoot horses don't they?

As some other fantastic members on here mentioned, who says the problem is "temporary"? Even if you might consider a problem temporary, who says the next person does? It's their life, it should be THEIR right.

Ultimately it should be up to each person, as only they are forced to experience that individual life.

People can't just say "well you just have to do the best you can, or give it more time"...what if they have already tried/done all those things?

There's always an assumption that there's always "help" out there, but that kind of "help" doesn't make a dent in it. It might work for some, but it seems that for at least half of the people out there and their particular circumstances, including mine, it doesn't help me and many others at all.

If you were trapped on an island that had predators, virtually no financial assistance when you need it desperately, chaos, violence, almost constant suffering with occasional breaks in between, does that justify staying on the "island"? What if you could take a boat and escape?

To finally get out of there to a better place?
But a lot of the people on the island that had the luxury of an easier circumstance than you, said "no don't leave, that's so sad, you should stay and just keep trying to survive it all", Based on the tiny chance that it might get better, what if it has never gotten better over many years, and just gets worse?

Should I/We still continue to stay on the island of chaos & pain continuing to suffer for more years and years?

Why would I stay and just keep accepting a place that is so harmful and upsetting to me?

Why should we just continue to live with the damage (because "that's life on the island") and suffer after affects of more continuous damage.. all for what exactly?

Why not just leave the crappy place if you can?!

What do you all think?

I understand the pro lifers would say, "oh don't kill yourself, that's so sad"...

Sad for who??

Maybe for them, but my leaving this exhausting realm would be wonderful freedom from suffering and plenty of happiness for me and apparently for so many of us.

Besides, with the way things are now in America, it's almost turning into a slave society for so many millions of innocent people, barely making ends meet, constant pressure constant violence, constant exhaustion… So excuse me if I want to stop being a slave and escape this horrible place...

Why do animals get the liberation from suffering but we don't?


Would love to hear your thoughts...
























Personally, i dedicate this song to American society and all of its lies, having people believe if they just keep jumping through a bunch of hoops, and buy into their
illusions that somehow It will all work out, or that it will all be worth it, if you just work hard and put in a lot of effort… etc.

Quite a performance / show they brainwash people with... sadly for me and so many others sadly fell for...

 

[WhyIsLife56]

Because they think people should be able to endure the suffering
They want them to endure it because "life is a gift "

 

[OneBigBlur]

People are ignorant and the ones who were born into fortunate circumstances believe that life is worth living, that things can turn around even if it's a blatant lie. They can't wrap their minds around the fact that some peoples lives are far worse in every way over death. I still don't entirely understand how they can lie to themselves that this world is a magical fairy tale full of butterflies and sunshine that everyone has to participate in because of a false sense of optimism. They would rather twiddle their thumbs and live in their immediate bubble out of convenience for their own psychological well being. Their views on life are based on their own circumstances and they choose not to look at the suffering around them because it isn't happening to them.

I'm not sure if you've ever heard or read of this short story but I'd recommend The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas. It shows how far people will go to ignore reality for their own sake. I am going to try to record the audio from Sam Harris who narrates it in his app sometime in the near future and I'll post it on here.

 

[garcelle]

its like you ripped the words from my mouth lol
i dont understand why they think being alive is better than being dead when we dont have any evidence that the state of being dead is inherently "bad"

 

[WhyIsLife56]

People are ignorant and the ones who were born into fortunate circumstances believe that life is worth living, that things can turn around even if it's a blatant lie. They can't wrap their minds around the fact that some peoples lives are far worse in every way over death. I still don't entirely understand how they can lie to themselves that this world is a magical fairy tale full of butterflies and sunshine that everyone has to participate in because of a false sense of optimism. They would rather twiddle their thumbs and live in their immediate bubble out of convenience for their own psychological well being. Their views on life are based on their own circumstances and they choose not to look at the suffering around them because it isn't happening to them.

I'm not sure if you've ever heard or read of this short story but I'd recommend The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas. It shows how far people will go to ignore reality for their own sake. I am going to try to record the audio from Sam Harris who narrates it in his app sometime in the near future and I'll post it on here.

In other words, people have their biases due to their own experiences. They think only their own experiences matter and no one else's.

 

[The nerd]

Because people are truly scum. People think they know what's best for others and try to protect each other from themselves. People are nosey and intrusive. Also religion which is the biggest problem, and if people commit suicide, no money can be made off of them.

 

[OneBigBlur]

its like you ripped the words from my mouth lol
i dont understand why they think being alive is better than being dead when we dont have any evidence that the state of being dead is inherently "bad"

Because the worst thing that happened to them is losing their job or breaking a bone. They think our problems are temporary and our suicidal tendencies are transient. If you stuck these same people into poverty, starvation, war, abuse, and any number of horrible things then they might finally understand what a profound effect it has on us. Most of these "adults" that want to force us to live would not last a day in most peoples shoes on here.

 

[purplemoon]

Because they think people should be able to endure the suffering
They want them to endure it because "life is a gift "

So true... Do you know where I can return this precious gift? Maybe get a refund?! LOL

 

[Kikoo Loool]

Antispecist should definitely be pro-human euthanasia indeed!

 

[WhyIsLife56]

So true... Do you know where I can return this precious gift? Maybe get a refund?! LOL

I wish lol
The best way to refund "the gift of life" is to end it ourselves. I would say we owe to to ourselves. For our own happiness. For ourselves. ❤

 

[purplemoon]

People are ignorant and the ones who were born into fortunate circumstances believe that life is worth living, that things can turn around even if it's a blatant lie. They can't wrap their minds around the fact that some peoples lives are far worse in every way over death. I still don't entirely understand how they can lie to themselves that this world is a magical fairy tale full of butterflies and sunshine that everyone has to participate in because of a false sense of optimism. They would rather twiddle their thumbs and live in their immediate bubble out of convenience for their own psychological well being. Their views on life are based on their own circumstances and they choose not to look at the suffering around them because it isn't happening to them.

I'm not sure if you've ever heard or read of this short story but I'd recommend The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas. It shows how far people will go to ignore reality for their own sake. I am going to try to record the audio from Sam Harris who narrates it in his app sometime in the near future and I'll post it on here.

You have Wise words my friend...

And you are spot on with everything. They certainly go by their own experience and circumstances, and then don't understand the reality that so many of us endure, day after day...

Thank you, I will look that literature up tonight!

 

[ARW3N]

People that take their lives are often berated as violent exhibitionists. They're not! They simply don't have access to peaceful exit methods the way that animals are euthanised. Turkey, for example, recently banned the sale of cyanide to the public after a spate of mass suicides by families in less than two weeks.

 

[garcelle]

People that take their lives are often berated as violent exhibitionists. They're not! They simply don't have access to peaceful exit methods the way that animals are euthanised. Turkey, for example, recently banned the sale of cyanide to the public after a spate of mass suicides by families in less than two weeks.

yeah that makes no sense for them to ban it for those who are looking for a peaceful way. for sickos like me though the gun seems more peaceful

 

[purplemoon]

People that take their lives are often berated as violent exhibitionists. They're not! They simply don't have access to peaceful exit methods the way that animals are euthanised. Turkey, for example, recently banned the sale of cyanide to the public after a spate of mass suicides by families in less than two weeks.

that's so unfortunate and unfair. It's like expecting someone to stay if they're suffering because of the condition they have, but the other person is not affected the same way. They have a different reality to deal with. If things were so great in life, they wouldn't even think about committing suicide.
People need relief. People need kindness. Not more lies, not more brainwashed illusions.

in some countries it seems like their government has actually taken action to try to improve things, to offer more support, more medical care to those in pain, more avenues of assistance, or they don't have insane crime rates where you have to worry about walking outside your door. When I have been in other countries, while nothing is perfect, for the most part there is hardly any violent crime, and they actually have safety nets in their country. People are calmer, nicer to each other, more relaxed, more friendly to each other. At least a few countries I've been in other than this crazy America, the Dis-united states.

But it seems that around too much of the world, and definitely in America, and so many other places, it's always like this:
"you're on your own. That's your problem. Too bad. That's not my problem." etc

Where's the compassion? Where's the love?
Goodness?
(Is that like 10% of the human population?)

 

[WhyIsLife56]

that's so unfortunate and unfair. It's like expecting someone to stay if they're suffering because of the condition they have, but the other person is not affected the same way. They have a different reality to deal with. If things were so great in life, they wouldn't even think about committing suicide.
People need relief. People need kindness. Not more lies, not more brainwashed illusions.

in some countries it seems like their government has actually taken action to try to improve things, to offer more support, more medical care to those in pain, more avenues of assistance, or they don't have insane crime rates where you have to worry about walking outside your door. When I have been in other countries, while nothing is perfect, for the most part there is hardly any violent crime, and they actually have safety nets in their country. People are calmer, nicer to each other, more relaxed, more friendly to each other. At least a few countries I've been in other than this crazy America, the Dis-united states.

But it seems that around too much of the world, and definitely in America, and so many other places, it's always like this:
"you're on your own. That's your problem. Too bad. That's not my problem." etc

Where's the compassion? Where's the love?
Goodness?
(Is that like 10% of the human population?)

Blame modern life. That's where people are becoming more isolated/alienated from each other and in turn dehumanizing others as a result.
It's not just America it's all over the world

 

[purplemoon]

Blame modern life. That's where people are becoming more isolated/alienated from each other and in turn dehumanizing others as a result.
It's not just America it's all over the world

I'm sure you're right.

Do you ever feel like a sheep that gradually started waking up to the brainwashing?

It's like finally completely waking up one day and seeing all of the lies and illusions.

Then you're no longer part sheep, you're just completely You.

I feel like so many Sheeple Naïvely have absolutely no clue, and that's not a criticism necessarily, it's more of concern as they don't even realize it. It's like many years ago when I used to think that the federal government is there to help us, or they would never let that happen to us the people, blah blah etc. Wow. Then over the years I learned what they have done and horrifying things they continue to do...

 

[Skyview]

We are in a Prison and the wealthy have control , they are not going to let us choose our escape but they fail to see our strength and escape we shall !

 

[WhyIsLife56]

I'm sure you're right. Do you ever feel like a sheep it gradually started waking up to the brainwashing? It's like completely waking up one day and seeing all of the lies and illusions.
I feel like so many Sheeple Naïvely have absolutely no clue, and that's not a criticism necessarily, it's more of concern as they don't even realize it. It's like many years ago when I used to think that the federal government is there to help us, or they would never let that happen to us the people, blah blah etc. Wow. Then over the years I learned what they have done and horrifying things they continue to do...

Most people don't question it. Or either they don't look around them as closely as they should.
The internet has a lot of knowledge and yet they don't use it for the right reasons. They use it to distract themselves instead.
I wonder when more people commit suicide, how many more have to end their own lives before they realize the truth? How many people does it take for them to question the world around them?

 

[purplemoon]

Because people are truly scum. People think they know what's best for others and try to protect each other from themselves. People are nosey and intrusive. Also religion which is the biggest problem, and if people commit suicide, no money can be made off of them.

that's another part of it, feeling like a slave or a cog inside a giant machine, or being told to not act out, keep our place, keep our head down, if we know what's good for us kind of invisible threats, it's almost like having an invisible gun to one's head day after day, were you know if you stand up, it might shoot one in the foot.

It's like having to contain yourself, and emotions and feelings that are only natural, with rights given by nature, rights that cannot be dictated or decided upon by another person. Our rights that are being violated, universal rights, the ones you can't put down on paper. With no relief. It makes me tired too.

Most people don't question it. Or either they don't look around them as closely as they should.
The internet has a lot of knowledge and yet they don't use it for the right reasons. They use it to distract themselves instead.
I wonder when more people commit suicide, how many more have to end their own lives before they realize the truth? How many people does it take for them to question the world around them?

good point.
What's fascinating to me is that for the most part, I've seen how many people on here actually seem to have higher intelligence.

Maybe the more awake you become, the less lies / illusions you have to hold onto... to keep riding the pointless merry-go-round?!

 

[Flume]

It really is terrible that there's such resistance against suicide. Imagine if all us here could be honest with how we truly felt, without being worried of getting reported or sent somewhere against our will. That alone would be a huge relief and help a lot.

 

[WhyIsLife56]

good point.
What's fascinating to me is that for the most part, I've seen how many people on here actually seem to have higher intelligence.

Maybe the more awake you become, the less lies / illusions you have to hold onto... to keep riding the pointless merry-go-round?!

I knew it was an illusion when growing up. There's a reason I'm the outcast of the family :)
I came across antinatalism and I realized there was a word for what I was feeling since I was a kid.
I connected the dots and everything fell into place :)

 

[purplemoon]

We are in a Prison and the wealthy have control , they are not going to let us choose our escape but they fail to see our strength and escape we shall !

It is like a giant prison, with a few holidays and breaks, along with some pleasant scenery. But then the majority of the time everything is focused on work, work, work, errands, work, work, work, occasional moment of A smile or relief, then more work, work, work. People have this brainwashed assumption of well you should be responsible and keep working, sure of course, but why does responsible have to be defined as
spending the majority of your life going to work, working, going from work, and seeing your coworkers more than your own family?!?

When do you actually get to live?

There's nothing wrong with working, but it shouldn't take up the majority of our entire waking life. That's where I draw the line. Why 40 plus hours a week? Why not 20?

The elites wants all their little slaves to stay in line and not make any noise.

Well, they better hope that I catch the bus because if I ever get a chance or an opportunity to stand up and wake everyone else up…

I would be glad to stir their pot, tip it over, and help set more captives free...

i'm weak physically, but spiritually just the opposite...



Like this guy Snowden... Lol, hmmm?

I knew it was illusion when growing up. There's a reason I'm the outcast of the family :)
I came across antinatalism and I realized there was a word for what I was feeling since I was a kid.
I connected the dots and everything fell into place :)

Well, you are a kindred spirit in the nicest way!

 

[Skyview]

A lot of people can see through the illusion and are awakened to the hypocrisy of Hollywood, Music Industry and the Media . Children being kidnapped and exploited sexually and then murdered during sacrifice for their blood so the wealthy and well connected can rejuvenate themselves , many of us know exactly what is going on in this world .

 

[WhyIsLife56]

It is like a giant prison, with a few holidays and breaks, along with some pleasant scenery. But then the majority of the time everything is focused on work, work, work, errands, work, work, work, occasional moment of A smile or relief, then more work, work, work. People have this brainwashed assumption of well you should be responsible and keep working, sure of course, but why does responsible have to be defined as
spending the majority of your life going to work, working, going from work, and seeing your coworkers more than your own family?!?

When do you actually get to live?

There's nothing wrong with working, but it shouldn't take up the majority of our entire waking life. That's where I draw the line. Why 40 plus hours a week? Why not 20?

The elites wants all their little slaves to stay in line and not make any noise.

Well, they better hope that I catch the bus because if I ever get a chance or an opportunity to stand up and wake everyone else up…

Maybe I should just publish my controversial book on America before I leave, LOL.

a Final parting gift to the federal echelons and their creepy Illuminati running the show...

I would be glad to stir their pot, tip it over, and set the captives free...




Well, you are a kindred spirit in the nicest way!

It's sad when you think about it though

 

[Glockman]

One word..."religion."

 

[Skyview]

It is like a giant prison, with a few holidays and breaks, along with some pleasant scenery. But then the majority of the time everything is focused on work, work, work, errands, work, work, work, occasional moment of A smile or relief, then more work, work, work. People have this brainwashed assumption of well you should be responsible and keep working, sure of course, but why does responsible have to be defined as
spending the majority of your life going to work, working, going from work, and seeing your coworkers more than your own family?!?

When do you actually get to live?

There's nothing wrong with working, but it shouldn't take up the majority of our entire waking life. That's where I draw the line. Why 40 plus hours a week? Why not 20?

The elites wants all their little slaves to stay in line and not make any noise.

Well, they better hope that I catch the bus because if I ever get a chance or an opportunity to stand up and wake everyone else up…

Maybe I should just publish my controversial book on America before I leave, LOL.

a Final parting gift to the federal echelons and their creepy Illuminati running the show...

I would be glad to stir their pot, tip it over, and set the captives free...




Like this guy Snowden... Lol, hmmm?

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Have you read about the new toilet they want to introduce , it's designed at a 45 deg angle to make it uncomfortable thereby workers will return to work quickly and that in turn will increase productivity !

Well, you are a kindred spirit in the nicest way!

It is like a giant prison, with a few holidays and breaks, along with some pleasant scenery. But then the majority of the time everything is focused on work, work, work, errands, work, work, work, occasional moment of A smile or relief, then more work, work, work. People have this brainwashed assumption of well you should be responsible and keep working, sure of course, but why does responsible have to be defined as
spending the majority of your life going to work, working, going from work, and seeing your coworkers more than your own family?!?

When do you actually get to live?

There's nothing wrong with working, but it shouldn't take up the majority of our entire waking life. That's where I draw the line. Why 40 plus hours a week? Why not 20?

The elites wants all their little slaves to stay in line and not make any noise.

Well, they better hope that I catch the bus because if I ever get a chance or an opportunity to stand up and wake everyone else up…

Maybe I should just publish my controversial book on America before I leave, LOL.

a Final parting gift to the federal echelons and their creepy Illuminati running the show...

I would be glad to stir their pot, tip it over, and set the captives free...

i'm weak physically, but spiritually just the opposite...




Like this guy Snowden... Lol, hmmm?

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Well, you are a kindred spirit in the nicest way!View attachment 22565

I completely agree with every point you make and you should write your book , hopefully it will waken others yet I won't hold my breath waiting for this to happen , if you say black they will say white , is it the fluoride in water supplies that's making people dumb ?

 

[WhyIsLife56]

I completely agree with every point you make and you should write your book , hopefully it will waken others yet I won't hold my breath waiting for this to happen , if you say black they will say white , is it the fluoride in water supplies that's making people dumb ?

What with technology and modern life trying to make easier, people stop thinking. When people stop thinking, they stop questioning and become dumber in the process.

 

[Skyview]

What with technology and modern life trying to make easier, people stop thinking. When people stop thinking, they stop questioning and become dumber in the process.

For some ignorance is bliss , you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink it . Far too many people are in denial therefore ignorance is bliss . At some point they are going to have to waken out of their slumber and they are not going to like what they see .

 

[WhyIsLife56]

For some ignorance is bliss , you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink it . Far too many people are in denial therefore ignorance is bliss . At some point they are going to have to waken out of their slumber and they are not going to like what they see .

If they could just stop worshipping culture and religion then it would be better for the world but people like to put taboo on suicide, euthanasia, and antinatalism/efilism. When are they going to realize there's no prize at the end of life?
How many people have to suffer until it all stops?

 

[Skyview]

Demonstrations are happening around the world , people are fighting back against Governments , they are not submissive and take a stance against greed and corruption .

If they could just stop worshipping culture and religion then it would be better for the world but people like to put taboo on suicide, euthanasia, and antinatalism/efilism. When are they going to realize there's no prize at the end of life?
How many people have to suffer until it all stops?

Every one has freedom of choice for self not for others , birth is a womans choice , it's not for others or governments to decide .
Religion is dying out because of all the controversies and corruption , pastors saying they need a plane to travel and the flock pays 50 million to buy a plane because the pastor doesn't want to sit next to someone else on a normal flight because they are demons LOL.
Everyone knows what's best for you yet they never take the time to discover the real you !