ScorpiusDragon

ScorpiusDragon

Mage
Mar 25, 2019
593
Would you call for help immediately? Or would you let him die?
 
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Jean Améry

Enlightened
Mar 17, 2019
1,098
Call him and ask to meet somewhere quiet and private to have a frank, honest discussion about it. Presumably if he messaged me he'd want to talk about it
 
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Chalken

Chalken

Decaying
Nov 20, 2018
214
I don't have any friends, let alone any close ones. But if I did, I'd talk to them, listen to them and support them whatever decision they'd end up making. If their mind was already made up, I doubt I would be able to change it.
 
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Alchemist

Alchemist

Warlock
Apr 3, 2019
709
Support them on any decision they take, not try to "save" them. Just offer to listen and help them in any way they ask to be helped without judging. If they decide to chose death, then provide the best information so they can do it with peace and dignity.
 
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bacardirum

Experienced
May 21, 2019
233
Being honest, I would not do anything, if they want to go, why disturb it...
 
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Empty Smile

Empty Smile

The final Bell has rung. Goodbye to all.
Jul 13, 2018
1,785
That's a tough call, considering I plan to ctb at some point. So if I talk this person out of it, then I ctb, I wonder if it would add pressure to them? Would they wonder if I was the one who really needed help? Would they feel guilty?

Millions of questions, not one right answer.
 
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bacardirum

bacardirum

Experienced
May 21, 2019
233
If you assocciate your name with it, can you imagine the questions and interviews from police, not to mention everyone knowing they died and you were somehow part of it, and vice versa if they fail, if someone wants to die I say give them the freedom, and by even helping to save you could somehow save them which could lead to a worse scenario for them...
 
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Midnight

Beyond solace
Jun 30, 2018
624
If police where to investigate the phone call/messages and you did anything apart from calling help/talk him/her out of it you will face legal consequences and possibly also angry family members of the one who ctb'ed. I honestly wouldn't do anything except talk in person so there is nothing they can hold you liable for. This might also be something to consider when YOU reach out for someone just before comitting the act.

It's a sick world.
 
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Sailfisher

F’ing A
Apr 19, 2019
282
I would try to talk to them and see what is really bothering them. Sometimes temporary things greatly impact people, but for others the reasons are more substantial. I wouldn't want someone to go based on a fleeting emotion, but I can't make that call in more substantial situations.
 
Loli

Loli

highly flammable
May 25, 2019
119
I'd talk to them about the problem. And maybe, just maybe, would join them
 
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ScorpiusDragon

ScorpiusDragon

Mage
Mar 25, 2019
593
What would you do?
I don't know. That's why I'm asking. I have a friend I'm worried about. I know he will probably message me before he makes his next suicide attempt. I'm scared. I don't want to call for "help" because I think it will just leave him a hospital bill without taking away his suicidal thoughts. But I don't know how I can just let him die.
 
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Jen Erik

Jen Erik

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Oct 12, 2018
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I don't know. That's why I'm asking. I have a friend I'm worried about. I know he will probably message me before he makes his next suicide attempt. I'm scared. I don't want to call for "help" because I think it will just leave him a hospital bill without taking away his suicidal thoughts. But I don't know how I can just let him die.
Got it. That's a tough spot to be in.
 
ScorpiusDragon

ScorpiusDragon

Mage
Mar 25, 2019
593
Got it. That's a tough spot to be in.
what do you think you'd do? Imagine your closest friend texting you with something like, "Jen Erik, you've been a wonderful friend. I'm killing myself today, and I just want to give you a final goodbye.Thank you for all your kind support and love. I wish you all the peace and happiness in the world. I hope that when we meet again, it will be in a better place."
what do you think you'd do? Imagine your closest friend texting you with something like, "Jen Erik, you've been a wonderful friend. I'm killing myself today, and I just want to give you a final goodbye.Thank you for all your kind support and love. I wish you all the peace and happiness in the world. I hope that when we meet again, it will be in a better place."
Like I said, I don't want to call for help because I think the police and psych wards do more harm than good. But I don't know how I could let someone I care about just die.
 
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Jen Erik

Jen Erik

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Oct 12, 2018
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what do you think you'd do? Imagine your closest friend texting you with something like, "Jen Erik, you've been a wonderful friend. I'm killing myself today, and I just want to give you a final goodbye.Thank you for all your kind support and love. I wish you all the peace and happiness in the world. I hope that when we meet again, it will be in a better place."
If I got that exact message, I doubt I would do anything; I have to trust that others know what is best for themselves.
 
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TAW122

TAW122

Emissary of the right to die.
Aug 30, 2018
6,855
I would just respect his/her choice and due to legal consequences I would not aid or abet in suicide as I could face serious legal consequences such as being sued by family, criminal prosecution for aiding suicide and what not. If there were no legal consequences, then I would be more than willing to give advice and even help out possible (depending on circumstances).
 
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First loss

First loss

Specialist
Jan 28, 2019
393
I wouldn't try to "save" him. In that moment and that point, death is his only salvation. I'd talk with him, go over a few points, try to comfort him and let him decide. If he wanted to meet up of course I would do it, but I wouldn't pressure anyone onto anything.
 
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seekingoblivion

seekingoblivion

Arcanist
Dec 11, 2018
454
Well I've been there before. It's selfish yeah but you can't help but keep the person alive however way you can cause you love them and want them to continue to be a part of your life.
 
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Monster

Monster

Member
Apr 26, 2019
77
I would talk to them and prevent them from doing it, because most likely they are not making a rational decision, as I think suicide should be pretty rational. If after a long time of trying to get better or making sure they're doing it for the "right" reason and being certain it's not just from a quick decision or a problem thats easy to overcome they tell me they certainly want to die, then I probably wouldn't stop them, though it would be hard no doubt. I know there's a lot that they do like in the world and that they wouldn't want to leave those behind, probably. Most people can get through the bad to keep experiencing the good.
 
Halo13

Halo13

Wizard
May 9, 2019
671
I would just respect his/her choice and due to legal consequences I would not aid or abet in suicide as I could face serious legal consequences such as being sued by family, criminal prosecution for aiding suicide and what not. If there were no legal consequences, then I would be more than willing to give advice and even help out possible (depending on circumstances).
This, so much this. There are legal ramifications for aiding in a suicide and you must be very careful of what you say. If you are supportive of your friend's choice, talk to them over the phone or in person instead of leaving a trail of messages as evidence that could seriously cause problems for yourself should the family try to sue.
 
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ZixivaldYrxes

ZixivaldYrxes

Archduke Demoness Villaintropic
Apr 3, 2019
120
Probably nothing. I recognize that I most likely lack the sensitivity to know how to approach such a situation and I'd say as much. I don't have any close friends, though, so this is all abstract. I might very well react differently in reality.
 
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ScorpiusDragon

ScorpiusDragon

Mage
Mar 25, 2019
593
Well I've been there before. It's selfish yeah but you can't help but keep the person alive however way you can cause you love them and want them to continue to be a part of your life.
The rational side of me knows I shouldn't stop my friend. But it's heartbreaking to know he might die by suicide. It's probably selfish, but I just don't want to lose him.
 
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beatenghost

beatenghost

Member
May 26, 2019
40
If they didn't want saving they'd get the message to me after they died. Sending beforehand is a cry for help
 
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Conflicted Cat

Conflicted Cat

Experienced
May 23, 2019
256
I'd try to talk, see why he/she feels that way. If things really can't get better, I'd let him/her go, and respect the decision. I'd even maybe assist the suicide, carefully, if wanted. No one should live here against their will.
 
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ArtsyDrawer

Enlightened
Nov 8, 2018
1,446
I haven't had friends try to discuss their upcoming bus Catchings, but for some reason I seem to attract discord kids to talk to me about it.
All I do is discuss their life and see whether or not it's something they have control over.

Having no friends, though, I don't think I can answer this properly.
I imagine I'd try to talk them into grinding through whatever shit they're going through under the "shit's gonna pass" argument. I don't think I would go as far as summoning a third party, though. Too risky. Might get them thrown into a nuthouse.
 
Mart

Mart

eh
Apr 27, 2019
95
Would you call for help immediately? Or would you let him die?
I know it's hypocritical but I'd ask to speak with them and talk to them about getting help. I don't want people I love to go out like me.
 
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Sanguinius

Sanguinius

Chicken of ss
Aug 9, 2018
291
I hate me for this, but the first thing I would do is asking if he/she needs a partner. It's absolutely selfish of me, but I've had a similar situation once and that was what I did.
 
Kikoo Loool

Kikoo Loool

Enlightened
Feb 25, 2019
1,128
Would you call for help immediately? Or would you let him die?

My only friends are on ss. I guess I wouldn't do anything since we promised each other to warn and respect.
 
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Sh00

Member
Jul 3, 2019
41
I'd call help for them or go myself if they're nearby. If they messaged me telling me they were about to attempt it, then I'd see it as a cry for help.
When I've really wanted to ctb, the last thing I would do is message someone telling them my plans. The only reason I could think of for doing that, is that I'd want to be stopped.

Also I'm more thinking of irl. If it was someone I'd started talking to on this site or something similar, I'd probably just let them know I'm there if they need to talk, but the decision is theirs.
 
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