I wish I could open up about my suicidal thoughts to a therapist without the fear of being locked up for 72 hours

[Randomgin]

Maybe I could get some help, maybe learn to deal with it and improve my quality of life, but I can't because they only care about covering their own asses and not actually helping the broken people of society

 

[FTL.Wanderer]

they only care about covering their own asses and not actually helping the broken people of society

Amen.

 

[anothernameless]

Yeah aren't actually helpful with suicidality. Therapy is a fucking racket.

 

[Pure]

That's what this website is for....sucks ass that we can't discuss this in real life without worries of being jailed

 

[anothernameless]

That's what this website is for....sucks ass that we can't discuss this in real life without worries of being jailed

Yeah, it's actually a pretty good site. Nothing this good on reddit, it's really good for online resource/support.

 

[Jblack]

I have always kept my suicide plans to myself. I learned early not to trust a psychiatrist. I found them too willing to pump me full of meds and I did not want to be strapped down in some prison like cell and forced to take those meds. I always fell like I am some kind of experiment that the dr. is conducting.

 

[Pure]

I have always kept my suicide plans to myself. I learned early not to trust a psychiatrist. I found them too willing to pump me full of meds and I did not want to be strapped down in some prison like cell and forced to take those meds. I always fell like I am some kind of experiment that the dr. is conducting.

Psychiatry is such a sham field. Should have gotten rid of it when the world woke up to the horrors of lobotomies.

 

[juraviel]

dip your toe in by saying something like, sometimes i feel like i dont have the will to live anymore, or something to that effect and gauge their reaction

you can also just straight up tell her im afraid if i tell you certain things youll have me committed, in a jokingly sort of way.

 

[Remember-Me-Not]

I feel the same. I called the National Suicide Hotline a couple weeks ago because I felt like I was really going to kill myself, but I knew I just needed to calm down and just talk to someone.

But it didn't feel like it really helped because I was pretty much not sharing what the problem is with the person - therefore they can't really help me (but also my person seemed like they weren't a conversationist). I couldn't share my true feelings because I had a life I had to get back to and being forced to go to a psychiatric hospital for 72 hours would have just made it worst.

My life feels like it's crumbling apart - a 72 hour hold would just feel like taking a sledgehammer to whatever I'm trying to preserve.

 

[whywere]

I have gone to mental health people for a long time and yes, I am a idiot, as I have been honest about suicide ideation and away I went for a not so lovely 72 hour hold. That is the reason that I DO NOT do ANY "talk therapy" any more. Go get my drugs and out asap. Oh, they still mention options, as long as my insurance pays, ah..NO thank you.

Walter

 

[A_miStake_of_NATURE]

In Russia you can tell them you will kys within an hour, and you'll be safe. So. Yeah. It didn't really help me, him knowing I have enough supplies for kms.
I don't believe in therapy……

 

[FTL.Wanderer]

I have always kept my suicide plans to myself. I learned early not to trust a psychiatrist. I found them too willing to pump me full of meds and I did not want to be strapped down in some prison like cell and forced to take those meds.

Exactly same. "Help," to me, isn't coercion. Especially when derision and disgust (staff members...) accompany it. I've been force-hospitalized. One of the most dehumanizing, painful experiences of my life. Never, ever again. Worse, once you get out, you can have a HUGE bill for the "help" you didn't want, and you can even lose housing, employment...

 

[juraviel]

Exactly same. "Help," to me, isn't coercion. Especially when derision and disgust (staff members...) accompany it. I've been force-hospitalized. One of the most dehumanizing, painful experiences of my life. Never, ever again. Worse, once you get out, you can have a HUGE bill for the "help" you didn't want, and you can even lose housing, employment...

health care in the US is abysmal, like crazily so. a twitch streamer i followed for years, and related to hugely, chose no to hospitalize himself because his one stay had him traumatized to such an extent he couldnt imagine going in again no matter how badly he felt, and so he chose to kill himself instead of course. it is.. insane. i had a few hospital stays myself (eastern europe), all i can say they were just : boring. nothing to do, endlessly waiting around bouncing from wall to wall

 

[FuneralCry]

Yes, I would never share my suicidal thoughts with any people in real life. Being sent to a psych ward is one of the things I fear. No amount of therapy would ever help me anyway, I am not suited for therapy. I do not want any 'help', I just want to fall into an eternal sleep. Life is not meant for me.

 

[FTL.Wanderer]

chose no to hospitalize himself because his one stay had him traumatized to such an extent he couldnt imagine going in again no matter how badly he felt, and so he chose to kill himself instead of course

I've shared similar thoughts with mental health "professionals" for years. They dismiss it. The US courts give them power over others' bodies and minds and, typical of humans, they abuse their power. There are many horror stories online and in print about the abuses mental health patients experiences--sexual molestation by staff, physical violence from sadistic staff, violation of constitutional rights waived away because center directors have the money for institutional legal representation... On and on. It's like the backdrop to a dystopian novel.

And it's not likely to improve because, again historic documents bear this out, governments benefit from having yet another tool to silence, coerce, or erase citizens who express ideas governments perceive to be threatening. Not to mention the research-corroborated interventions that work (like housing first initiatives for the homeless, access to health care for the vulnerable, worker rights/protections, affordable and competent legal counsel for victims...) are contrary to the agendas of those in power. Much easier to call "sick" and dismiss the people you revile while converting the ones you still value (young enough, possibly still financially profitable to the state, healthy enough to serve as cheap laborers for corporations...).

 

[The Lonely]

The problem is when someone had a big loss or just ended up a relationship and talks about 'doing something'…

Its just to prevent anyone from doing something stupid without thinking...

Chronic suicidal ideation is different…
Eg: I have this kind of thinking since I was like 10! Then what?
Would they have better locked me up for exactly how long???

There would be no enough psychiatric ward to lock up all chronic suicidal folks ….

 

[FTL.Wanderer]

There would be no psychiatric ward enough to lock up all chronic suicidal folks ….

Agreed. My first suicidal--deeply and sincerely suicidal--thought was when I was 9. And I've had many treatments at "the country's best" medical centers. Things have only consistently gotten worse. You're practically forced to hang on, but at some point, by some age, you no longer matter. You're left to deal with your pain all alone.

You'd think the state would be practical about letting people like me go quickly and peacefully.

 

[everydayiloveyou]

In my experience you don't get sectioned as long as you don't describe carrying out a plan. So saying you have N already or that you're ready to order it -- sectioned. Saying you've thought about it and "a long time ago" you looked up good methods and picked one, but you're not planning it for "anytime soon" -- a-okay.

The risk goes up a ton if you've self-harmed or attempted before though. In those cases I don't even get why a psych would ask about suicidal ideation if they know they'd section the patient as soon as they showed any signs of suffering.

 

[dyr]

I think having a therapist would really help me but I can't get one because I have a lot of self harm so they'd section me as soon as I started talking about the thoughts I have and I would just try to ctb as soon as I got let out cuz not being in control of my life is why I want to end it in the first place.

 

[EndlessDream]

What's therapy when if you're honest you'll get the cops rolling up to your door, put on 20 lists and never have a normal life or job again, or worse put in jail. Lose all your friends and be alone and ridiculed forever. I'll take care of my fate and end it before I become someone's puppet doing forced labour and being a good little boy. I don't wanna give them the satisfaction, I'll end it outside and inside of detainment, I'll find a way and that could mean stabbing myself. I'm not fit for this world.

 

[EndlessDream]

Agreed. My first suicidal--deeply and sincerely suicidal--thought was when I was 9. And I've had many treatments at "the country's best" medical centers. Things have only consistently gotten worse. You're practically forced to hang on, but at some point, by some age, you no longer matter. You're left to deal with your pain all alone.

You'd think the state would be practical about letting people like me go quickly and peacefully.

I had my first depressing thought after an operation when i was early 10s
was around around mid 10s when I first wanted to CTB due to witnessing family violence
now have that sort of thoughts in my head and imagine inflicting pain on myself
idk what my therapist will do, i have a lot of history and i can't even openly talk about a lot of things because of legality (they'd likely break confidentiality) and it'd ruin my life
i have all these desires to be honest and a better person, to free myself and give it to my therapist, but that is sacrificing my freedom and my life being ruined forever

it's better for everyone and myself that i can go peacefully