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Darkover

Darkover

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Jul 29, 2021
5,195
If you were forced into existence without consent, why should you need permission to leave? It's a double standard that makes no sense—society treats life as a gift, but for many, it feels like a curse. And yet, when someone wants out, they're met with resistance, judgment, or forced to keep suffering.

The reality is that laws and societal norms are built around preserving life at all costs, not because it's necessarily good for the individual, but because it keeps the system running. If people were freely allowed to leave, it would force society to confront the fact that not everyone finds life worth living. And that's something most people don't want to admit.

The contradiction is clear: you were brought into existence without your consent, yet society demands that you justify or seek permission to leave. This exposes a fundamental hypocrisy in how life is treated.

The lack of consent in birth is undeniable. No one chooses to be born. Your parents, acting on their own desires, brought you into existence without consulting you—because consultation was impossible. This means life was imposed upon you. If life were truly a gift, it should come with the option to return it. But it doesn't.

Society assumes that life is inherently valuable and should be preserved at all costs. This belief is ingrained in laws, religions, and cultures. But that valuation is arbitrary—what if life isn't valuable to the individual experiencing it? Why does society's judgment override personal suffering?

The requirement for "consent" to leave life—through legal or medical approval—exists because of power structures that prioritize stability, control, and economic productivity over individual well-being. Governments, religions, and institutions benefit from keeping people alive, even against their will. Capitalism relies on people as workers and consumers. Many religions view life as sacred and suicide as sinful. Legal systems enforce laws against suicide and assisted dying to maintain social order by discouraging people from questioning the value of life.

Even if someone is suffering immensely, they're often guilt-tripped into staying alive. They're told to "keep fighting" or that their pain is temporary—even when it's not. Society avoids discussing suffering in depth because acknowledging it would mean admitting that life isn't inherently good for everyone.

The system is deeply illogical. You didn't sign up for life. You didn't consent to the struggles, pains, and responsibilities that come with it. And yet, when you want out, suddenly "consent" becomes an issue. This contradiction exposes how the system isn't built to prioritize individual well-being—it's built to sustain itself.
 
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spypilot896

spypilot896

I will finally be happy when I'm floating in limbo
Mar 23, 2025
77
you couldn't be more fucking right
 
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Ijustcantanymore

Ijustcantanymore

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Nov 22, 2024
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I'm glad there are people out there that fucking get it. Yes to all of this.
 
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pauly369

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Mar 16, 2025
81
100 % agree. Life is suffering and it is logical to want to end that suffering.
Religion, Government and social norms try and trick us into thinking that life is worth living.
They are all full of shit.
 
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NoMoreSanity

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Mar 17, 2025
16
Do you believe it wrong to feel joy? I do. I can't even enjoy life anymore after coming to antinatal conclusions. I find being happy or enjoying things or whatever wrong nowadays and it's a mental hell. To want to enjoy things but be against it? What do I do
 
Michelstaedter

Michelstaedter

Member
Feb 25, 2025
79
They want to control our lives; it's their only way to satisfy themselves.
At some point, I want to think life wasn't valuable; there was simply no reason to think about it. However, at some point in history, they began to give it a value, as if it were an object, as if it were something that didn't belong to us but belonged to "God."

We are dead and buried in this world... The price of our escape will be pain, suffering, fear. And this is because beyond biology lies the control they exert on our minds from birth.
 
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NatureHermit921

NatureHermit921

Rotting in a forest somewhere in Germany
Feb 3, 2019
30
The contradiction is clear: you were brought into existence without your consent, yet society demands that you justify or seek permission to leave. This exposes a fundamental hypocrisy in how life is treated.
You are "free" to leave at any time, while not with dignity nor with respect, you could leave at any time.
If you view society as a single organism then wanting to leave is like a cell being sick or something. It's still strange to me that a lot of people want to oppose their worldview on people that may suffer for the rest of their life
 
Darkover

Darkover

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Jul 29, 2021
5,195
You are "free" to leave at any time, while not with dignity nor with respect, you could leave at any time.
True freedom implies the absence of coercion or constraint forced hospitalization can prevent or delay attempts so no your not free to leave at any time
if i was free to leave at any time i would of left 20 years ago
 
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wham311

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Mar 1, 2025
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Because suicide and it's attempts cost money and people don't want people killing themselves unfortunately. We are in the minority.
 
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