little_aster

little_aster

Ruhe sanft, kleine Aster.
Jan 29, 2020
14
Razors pain you;
Rivers are damp;
Acids stain you;
And drugs cause cramp.
Guns aren't lawful;
Nooses give;
Gas smells awful;
You might as well live.

I truly want it all to end. But as someone who lives in Germany (where even SN is illegal above 5% - What?), I feel like there's just no good way to do it. Partial suspension hanging would be an option, but I hear that that's pretty easy to mess up (plus thinking about veins and arteries repulses me).

I've been thinking about detergent suicide, but I don't have a car (or even any small room - my bathroom door doesn't even close).

Anyone else feel the same way? Any thoughts?
 
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MachinaArcana

MachinaArcana

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Jan 18, 2020
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I feel your pain. I've been thinking long and hard about how to ctb. I don't want it to be too gruesome (jumping in front of a train, or off a tall building).
Over the counter meds are not going to do the trick either. The SN method often discussed here sounds like something that would surely fail if I tried it. I have a tendency to fuck up.

I'll be going for full suspension, with an exit bag over my head, right after ingesting alcohol and some sedatives.I just bought a strong hemp rope the other day. And I'm actually going to have a "dress rehearsal" to see how well I'll be able to pull it off, even time it. I'll use cable straps to bind my hands behind my back, just in case something goes wrong with the suspension or knot. I don't want to claw at the bag while semi-unconscious, and somehow survive and spend the rest of my days as a vegetable due to lack of oxygen to the brain. I may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I'm not stupid either. When I do this, it needs to be foolproof. I want out, and be gone.

And I know what I'm describing won't be "pretty", but I can't think of a better alternative. I sincerely hope you are able to choose a method that suits you. None will be "ideal" however, I'm afraid.

If you want to talk via PM I am more than happy to share my thoughts with you, or just listen. You may write in German, I'm not fluent in writing but understand it very, very well -worked for an Austrian company for many years.

Liebe Grüße aus Belgien

Christophe
 
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jgm63

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Oct 28, 2019
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note : If you want to talk to anyone privately (instead of posting on threads), then you can use "PM" (PM = personal message, a bit like sending someone an email)
You need to make at least 5 posts and need to have been active for at least 24 hours to get access.
If you don't know what to post, you can post in some of the "games" threads (see "offtopic" section).
Once you have PM access, when you hover the mouse pointer over a user name, you will see a "start conversation" button...
 
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little_aster

little_aster

Ruhe sanft, kleine Aster.
Jan 29, 2020
14
I feel your pain. I've been thinking long and hard about how to ctb. I don't want it to be too gruesome (jumping in front of a train, or off a tall building).
Over the counter meds are not going to do the trick either. The SN method often discussed here sounds like something that would surely fail if I tried it. I have a tendency to fuck up.

I'll be going for full suspension, with an exit bag over my head, right after ingesting alcohol and some sedatives.I just bought a strong hemp rope the other day. And I'm actually going to have a "dress rehearsal" to see how well I'll be able to pull it off, even time it. I'll use cable straps to bind my hands behind my back, just in case something goes wrong with the suspension or knot. I don't want to claw at the bag while semi-unconscious, and somehow survive and spend the rest of my days as a vegetable due to lack of oxygen to the brain. I may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I'm not stupid either. When I do this, it needs to be foolproof. I want out, and be gone.

And I know what I'm describing won't be "pretty", but I can't think of a better alternative. I sincerely hope you are able to choose a method that suits you. None will be "ideal" however, I'm afraid.

If you want to talk via PM I am more than happy to share my thoughts with you, or just listen. You may write in German, I'm not fluent in writing but understand it very, very well -worked for an Austrian company for many years.

Liebe Grüße aus Belgien

Christophe

Thanks for your reply. it feels very nice knowing that I am not alone in this.

I think your method is elegant in its redundancy.I too am very scared of failing and ending with brain damage (probably the most scared that I am of anything in the world).

Sadly I can't PM yet, as I'm *very* new to this forum. As jgm63 said, you have to be a user for more than 24h, while I only just made my account. Perhaps at a later time, if you're still around.

May this uncaring universe have mercy on us in our final act.
 
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MachinaArcana

MachinaArcana

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Jan 18, 2020
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By all means post some more and by this time tomorrow you'll be able to connect via PM.
 
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Dystopic_Momento

Dystopic_Momento

Member
Dec 8, 2019
87
Anyone else feel the same way? Any thoughts?
It used to be illegal in the US too (a long time ago).

I was going to try to power through a tub drowning or use Wim Hof breathing to pass out and do it that way. (Wim Hoff warns not to do it in a tub alone or a pool for that reason). I wanted to do Nitrogen, but can't afford it.

When I first heard about the SN method I was really happy and had decided on that because it was supposedly fool proof, but then I read about how it can take a long time and how many people fail (there are threads here) and how hard it is not to throw up and live, and how it can take a half hour with an extreme headache so no.

Saw someone post about the arteries in the arm to cut and a tip to do it with a scalpel, which is made to cut flesh so it won't hurt so much, but it seemed to me that it would make a huge mess (and there are other people to consider) and had potential to spurt a lot? Also people keep vaguely warning not to do it.

Then yesterday I saw a post by someone named Kooz (who it looks like is now gone by this method?) who had helpfully posted about the "night night" method. Basically you duct tape two beanbags on each side of your neck and pass out. He even had diagrams (which isn't helpful for you due to the aversion of arteries and veins). But you pass out within 20 seconds and from beginning to end will be dead in less than five minutes.

Fast, cheap, you get to breathe (sort of), and sounds like it's relatively painless because you're not fracturing your spine (like in a hanging) or your larynx. I already have thick beanbags and guerilla tape. A tree ratchet (the metal and fabric thing) would have been better but I already own tape and won't be changing my mind because using my own power of choice is preferable to going homeless and dying slower or by someone else's hand so.. Now I'm just biding my time until October.

Which is more challenging than it sounds because really bad things keep happening here, but it's my goal.

I thought about stacking ways to die, too, but worry one way might stop another (like if you slow down your bloodflow with alcohol etc and then hang yourself, does it take longer?) Now it doesn't matter. I feel confident this will work.

Best wishes with your choice.
 
Thisgirlwantstosleep

Thisgirlwantstosleep

A pointless life had in a pointless world
Mar 11, 2019
129
It used to be illegal in the US too (a long time ago).

I was going to try to power through a tub drowning or use Wim Hof breathing to pass out and do it that way. (Wim Hoff warns not to do it in a tub alone or a pool for that reason). I wanted to do Nitrogen, but can't afford it.

When I first heard about the SN method I was really happy and had decided on that because it was supposedly fool proof, but then I read about how it can take a long time and how many people fail (there are threads here) and how hard it is not to throw up and live, and how it can take a half hour with an extreme headache so no.

Saw someone post about the arteries in the arm to cut and a tip to do it with a scalpel, which is made to cut flesh so it won't hurt so much, but it seemed to me that it would make a huge mess (and there are other people to consider) and had potential to spurt a lot? Also people keep vaguely warning not to do it.

Then yesterday I saw a post by someone named Kooz (who it looks like is now gone by this method?) who had helpfully posted about the "night night" method. Basically you duct tape two beanbags on each side of your neck and pass out. He even had diagrams (which isn't helpful for you due to the aversion of arteries and veins). But you pass out within 20 seconds and from beginning to end will be dead in less than five minutes.

Fast, cheap, you get to breathe (sort of), and sounds like it's relatively painless because you're not fracturing your spine (like in a hanging) or your larynx. I already have thick beanbags and guerilla tape. A tree ratchet (the metal and fabric thing) would have been better but I already own tape and won't be changing my mind because using my own power of choice is preferable to going homeless and dying slower or by someone else's hand so.. Now I'm just biding my time until October.

Which is more challenging than it sounds because really bad things keep happening here, but it's my goal.

I thought about stacking ways to die, too, but worry one way might stop another (like if you slow down your bloodflow with alcohol etc and then hang yourself, does it take longer?) Now it doesn't matter. I feel confident this will work.

Best wishes with your choice.

Could you post a link to that night night method post you saw? I'm desperate to CTB but anything other than a gun or carbon monoxide is overly complicated
 
Dystopic_Momento

Dystopic_Momento

Member
Dec 8, 2019
87
Could you post a link to that night night method post you saw? I'm desperate to CTB but anything other than a gun or carbon monoxide is overly complicated
Sure :)
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/the-night-night-method-mega-thread.6834/

It sounds so easy with the tape. The bags are easy to get in the right place because you're laying down at first. Thanks to his diagram I was also able to easily find the right places to put the beanbags. -You can get them from sensory equipment filler for a cheap weighted vest or those juggling beanbags, too -that's where mine are from.

I needed something simple, too.
 
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Thereisnothing

Thereisnothing

Enlightened
Jan 4, 2020
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I truly want it all to end. But as someone who lives in Germany (where even SN is illegal above 5% - What?), I feel like there's just no good way to do it. Partial suspension hanging would be an option, but I hear that that's pretty easy to mess up (plus thinking about veins and arteries repulses me).

I've been thinking about detergent suicide, but I don't have a car (or even any small room - my bathroom door doesn't even close).

Anyone else feel the same way? Any thoughts?
I am like you, wish it to end, but whatever method I look into or think about, its either too horrid, wouldn't work or wouldn't be able to to sue for certain reasons. There must be a method which is painless, peaceful and that works, but not stumbled upon it yet, although convinced with enough thought and research will find it somehow..............or is that just wishful thinking?:notsure:
 
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jgm63

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Oct 28, 2019
2,467
Well, the SN method is fairly good.
Some notes I've made on SN :

PEACEFULNESS
I've read many different accounts of people taking SN, from various sources.
The overall impression I get is that it is fairly peaceful.
I believe there will likely be some discomfort, but I don't believe the discomfort level is too high.
I have heard it described as being like a "bad hangover".
I believe people usually go unconscious after about 20 minutes.
Note : I can only state what I believe to be true, based on things I have read and things that have been posted by others. I cannot give guarantees.

RELIABILITY
Overall the method seems reliable. The successful cases heavily outweigh the failed cases.
Most of the failed cases appear to be where people were found or called an ambulance themselves.
So if you take good precautions to not be found, and have a certain amount of determination to undergo some discomfort without calling an ambulance, then the chance of success should be very high. Some members have vomited, but still been successful. In the cases where people vomited it doesn't appear they drank any more SN, yet they still appeared to succeed, although the recommendation is to have a couple of extra glasses ready, and to drink more in the event of vomiting.


Note : As always, please note that I strongly encourage you to seek help with whatever is troubling you. With the right help things can improve. There are many sources of help if you look and reach out. Please seek assistance in any and every way possible. You alone must decide upon your actions and take full responsibility for them, and you should always favour seeking help and keeping out of harm's way.
 
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little_aster

little_aster

Ruhe sanft, kleine Aster.
Jan 29, 2020
14
Well, the SN method is fairly good.
Some notes I've made on SN :

PEACEFULNESS
I've read many different accounts of people taking SN, from various sources.
The overall impression I get is that it is fairly peaceful.
I believe there will likely be some discomfort, but I don't believe the discomfort level is too high.
I have heard it described as being like a "bad hangover".
I believe people usually go unconscious after about 20 minutes.
Note : I can only state what I believe to be true, based on things I have read and things that have been posted by others. I cannot give guarantees.

RELIABILITY
Overall the method seems reliable. The successful cases heavily outweigh the failed cases.
Most of the failed cases appear to be where people were found or called an ambulance themselves.
So if you take good precautions to not be found, and have a certain amount of determination to undergo some discomfort without calling an ambulance, then the chance of success should be very high. Some members have vomited, but still been successful. In the cases where people vomited it doesn't appear they drank any more SN, yet they still appeared to succeed, although the recommendation is to have a couple of extra glasses ready, and to drink more in the event of vomiting.


Note : As always, please note that I strongly encourage you to seek help with whatever is troubling you. With the right help things can improve. There are many sources of help if you look and reach out. Please seek assistance in any and every way possible. You alone must decide upon your actions and take full responsibility for them, and you should always favour seeking help and keeping out of harm's way.

The problem with SN is that it's relatively hard to get where I live. Seems like a very good method though.
 
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jgm63

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Oct 28, 2019
2,467
The problem with SN is that it's relatively hard to get where I live. Seems like a very good method though.
Can't PM you yet, but have you looked on some of the large well known online marketplaces ?
 
TAW122

TAW122

Emissary of the right to die.
Aug 30, 2018
6,819
I'm sorry to hear about this predicament and while I've had a method (not currently within reach), it took me a while before I settled on the firearm. As someone who lives in the US and in a state with relatively lax gun laws, I was able to procure mine. Had I not had the method I had now, I'd have to resort to lesser reliable means, which is something I always wished to avoid.

I'm not sure of all German laws and what not, so I'm sorry I couldn't give you suggestions on what would be a good method.. :aw: But whatever method you end up choosing, I hope you are able to find peace.
 
little_aster

little_aster

Ruhe sanft, kleine Aster.
Jan 29, 2020
14
Can't PM you yet, but have you looked on some of the large well known online marketplaces ?
There's someone selling it from poland but I'm kinda worried that customs might catch that.
I am like you, wish it to end, but whatever method I look into or think about, its either too horrid, wouldn't work or wouldn't be able to to sue for certain reasons. There must be a method which is painless, peaceful and that works, but not stumbled upon it yet, although convinced with enough thought and research will find it somehow..............or is that just wishful thinking?:notsure:
I feel like in a certain sense, the world owes us a way out, considering that we didn't really have a choice in being born.

I'm sorry to hear about this predicament and while I've had a method (not currently within reach), it took me a while before I settled on the firearm. As someone who lives in the US and in a state with relatively lax gun laws, I was able to procure mine. Had I not had the method I had now, I'd have to resort to lesser reliable means, which is something I always wished to avoid.

I'm not sure of all German laws and what not, so I'm sorry I couldn't give you suggestions on what would be a good method.. :aw: But whatever method you end up choosing, I hope you are able to find peace.
God, I wish I lived in a country with less strict gun laws. Personally I'd go with a Remington type 11 (which Cobain used - I'm a bit of a fan).

Then yesterday I saw a post by someone named Kooz (who it looks like is now gone by this method?) who had helpfully posted about the "night night" method. Basically you duct tape two beanbags on each side of your neck and pass out. He even had diagrams (which isn't helpful for you due to the aversion of arteries and veins). But you pass out within 20 seconds and from beginning to end will be dead in less than five minutes.
Yeah, I thought about night-night a bit, but it's incredibly repulsive to me. I'm actually shivering a bit just thinking about it, I'm such a wuss haha.
 
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Dystopic_Momento

Dystopic_Momento

Member
Dec 8, 2019
87
Yeah, I thought about night-night a bit, but it's incredibly repulsive to me. I'm actually shivering a bit just thinking about it, I'm such a wuss haha.

I think we ought to have easier ways to go, but that one looked fastest, least uncomfortable to me but here's hoping you find a better way.
 
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SettOne1994

Student
Jan 30, 2020
177
I truly want it all to end. But as someone who lives in Germany (where even SN is illegal above 5% - What?), I feel like there's just no good way to do it. Partial suspension hanging would be an option, but I hear that that's pretty easy to mess up (plus thinking about veins and arteries repulses me).

I've been thinking about detergent suicide, but I don't have a car (or even any small room - my bathroom door doesn't even close).

Anyone else feel the same way? Any thoughts?
some old guns or something are allowed in Germany. They have powder and a bullet . Good for headshot but costs around 1000 euro expensive for me. You can try make SN order to a friend of yours outside germany then go collect it and bring it home
check this video and go to 5:45
VIDEO
 
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one4all

one4all

I'll put pennies on your eyes and it will go away.
Feb 3, 2020
3,455
@little_aster
Not all methods are 100% guaranteed. IMHO. As others have stated you should research them an see what fits you best. Alot of resources are here and plus their are members here you can also talk to. Just remember, one moment can change a lot of other peoples lives.



https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/resource-compilation.3/
 
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little_aster

little_aster

Ruhe sanft, kleine Aster.
Jan 29, 2020
14
bit of an update:

You can actually just order SN in Germany pretty easy.

Also I'm doing a bit better now and I'm probably not going to go through with it anytime soon. But it's actually really nice knowing that I could if I wanted to
 
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