Discussion I think the search for a peaceful pill is important, but they could also just hand you a pistol and let you shoot yourself

[NotWhatIExpected]

Thus making a lot of the agonizing over good and bad ways to die somewhat unnecessary

I like the idea of Nembutal and even I think SN but I feel like only anti-emetics have made them possible as methods

I can see where morphine/etc leads to fears of addiction

I like the idea of the debreather and the Sarco, although those are obviously not quite here yet

The debreather itself I think looks shitty in the video but good in pictures, and regardless the actual concept is good so that makes it good

 

[oopswronglife]

People would still agonize. I live in Murica and have access to all the guns. Lots of people put guns to their head and cannot do it. The inherent violence of it, even though logically won't be known or felt, is terrifying to our lizard brain. No method is easy and no matter what you have you will find reasons to want something else to stall or deal with survival instinct. It's not natural to do this...it can be rational...but it's not natural. To expect other people to participate in this event, in this violent and traumatizing way especially, is madness.

 

[TAW122]

@oopswronglife is right about this. Regardless of the method, the SI (survival instinct) and self-preservation part of our biology still gets in the way to interfere with our attempt. It is difficult to fully get rid of the SI (some debate whether it could be done or not), but just enough to give the person sufficient courage and conviction to follow through with the attempt.

 

[NotWhatIExpected]

People would still agonize. I live in Murica and have access to all the guns. Lots of people put guns to their head and cannot do it. The inherent violence of it, even though logically won't be known or felt, is terrifying to our lizard brain. No method is easy and no matter what you have you will find reasons to want something else to stall or deal with survival instinct. It's not natural to do this...it can be rational...but it's not natural. To expect other people to participate in this event, in this violent and traumatizing way especially, is madness.

You would pull the trigger eventually, I think, if you found it necessary to

In some ways a gunshot (particularly with a handgun I'd imagine as opposed to a shotgun) is a lot less traumatic than most other deaths

I'm not saying there wouldn't be any agonizing to it

That said, I only ever practiced with my rifle in my mouth, when I carted it off to go to do it, I got stopped

In my head I was saying that I would sit and wait somewhere and decide then whether I would do it, maybe I wouldn't have

That said I think the pressure of "it has to be right this moment or never" is unnecessary

There are ways to minimize involving other people

Doing it in the wilderness comes to mind, but there could ways to do it in a city

They have had automated car wash technology for a long time, I don't see why they couldn't have something similar for cleaning blood

@oopswronglife is right about this. Regardless of the method, the SI (survival instinct) and self-preservation part of our biology still gets in the way to interfere with our attempt. It is difficult to fully get rid of the SI (some debate whether it could be done or not), but just enough to give the person sufficient courage and conviction to follow through with the attempt.

Yeah but it takes more to get over the SI in some methods than others

Also if your aim is to avoid pain a handgun suicide seems best (other than maybe a good peaceful pill or whatever an approximation of that is, say Nembutal with an antiemetic, and I feel like there could probably be some way to neutralize the taste)

Much better than many other super physically painful methods

 

[Proto]

I wouldn't have the guts to pull it off with a gun, it's nitrogen scuba or N for me.

 

[AlreadyGone]

I wouldn't have the guts to pull it off with a gun, it's nitrogen scuba or N for me.

Agreed. SN or N are my methods.

 

[Pryras]

My past attempts could be seen as "passive" ie: overdose on painkillers in combination with binge drinking, adding the cherry on top by driving my car off into a deep ditch but it's anything but passive for me.

Guns work for sure, but I live in a country where I don't easily/readily have access to one. I'm too scared of fucking up and don't have the courage to pull the trigger. Doesn't make my attempt any less real though because trust me, I didn't want to survive after totalling a car. That's for sure...but a lot of people see passive attempts as a cry for help, a hope to be saved but that's definitely not my case.

 

[LastRide]

I agree SI is a bummer, but I don't understand why people would find it more difficult to overcome SI when pulling a trigger then when ingesting some poison (which N or SN clearly are). The SN takes far too long in my personal opinion, and even though the N is quicker, it still takes some time to lose consciousness. If you are serious about wanting to CTB, why not choose a method which is almost 100% safe to not fail, and totally painless since if the gun is correctly aimed your brain will not have the time to realise you are dying because you'll be dead before it does....you won't even hear the sound of the shot since the bullet will travel faster than the speed of sound ! For me personally, this is clearly the best method. And all you need to do in order to achieve fast, painfree CTB is move one of your fingers about 1 cm....I would find all other methods either too long, or necessitating too much preparation ! I mean look at the whole Exit-bag and nitrogen method for example, I'd rather not spend my last hours putting all that stuff together and worry whether I did it correctly etc. when I can just sit in a nice location, drink, listen to music and when I feel ready just take one clean shot to the brainstem and over....and if SI is too strong then I just pack up my gun and wait for another occasion, if you don't pull the trigger you'll have no side effects ! I'd be scared to be found early with any of the other methods and saved, possibly surviving but in a physically or mentally diminished state. That risk is completely zero with a gunshot suicide. I totally understand if other people prefer different methods, but could you please explain to me why? I am sincerely interested !

 

[Dinosaur]

I have SN and I would prefer do it with a gun