I just want to give up.

[Natbee]

Hey all

I've been an impatient for over a week because I bought pure helium. I still feel it's the best way to go out and have contacts in place to get more helium when I leave.
My psychiatrist keeps wanting to involve my family, has that happened to anybody else?
I feel like it's my right what happens with me to be kept between me and my psychiatrist or treating team?
He keeps wanting to engage with my mother and my husband about what's going on with me.

 

[itsgone2]

I understand. I want to give up too

 

[Happy Cat]

Hey all

I've been an impatient for over a week because I bought pure helium. I still feel it's the best way to go out and have contacts in place to get more helium when I leave.
My psychiatrist keeps wanting to involve my family, has that happened to anybody else?
I feel like it's my right what happens with me to be kept between me and my psychiatrist or treating team?
He keeps wanting to engage with my mother and my husband about what's going on with me.

My psychiatrist tried doing that too, got me so irritated. It's part of their treatment plan, they try bringing you closer to your family or some shit idk. I think you should be open with your doctor. If you explain why you don't want to engage with your family maybe he will stop

 

[OnnanokoNiNaritai]

Just explain clearly that u dont want anyone to be involved. He should stop doing it.
Kisses :)

 

[nitrogenous]

Hey all

I've been an impatient for over a week because I bought pure helium. I still feel it's the best way to go out and have contacts in place to get more helium when I leave.
My psychiatrist keeps wanting to involve my family, has that happened to anybody else?
I feel like it's my right what happens with me to be kept between me and my psychiatrist or treating team?
He keeps wanting to engage with my mother and my husband about what's going on with me.

Hey mate, I'm sorry that they're doing this to you… The hospital has tried doing the same thing to me too, and even threatening they were going to call my family without my consent (saying they can call them at any time) despite knowing I have a huge trauma background associated with my family. I kept on trying to argue that I'm an adult and therefore have my own independence, but wasn't heard of. It's only when I talked about it with another nurse who kindly sorted everything out that they stopped forcing me to allow my family to be involved (or even know that I attempted as they don't live with me).

I guess the idea of having family involved is back to "safety precautions", in which technically the more people know about your plan etc, the more the professionals think that your plan can be "interrupted"… That's why often times in safety planning they require "someone" to check that you have "removed/limited access to means".

 

[Natbee]

My psychiatrist tried doing that too, got me so irritated. It's part of their treatment plan, they try bringing you closer to your family or some shit idk. I think you should be open with your doctor. If you explain why you don't want to engage with your family maybe he will stop

I sent him a long letter yesterday saying not to involve them at all. They making me worse involving them

Hey mate, I'm sorry that they're doing this to you… The hospital has tried doing the same thing to me too, and even threatening they were going to call my family without my consent (saying they can call them at any time) despite knowing I have a huge trauma background associated with my family. I kept on trying to argue that I'm an adult and therefore have my own independence, but wasn't heard of. It's only when I talked about it with another nurse who kindly sorted everything out that they stopped forcing me to allow my family to be involved (or even know that I attempted as they don't live with me).

I guess the idea of having family involved is back to "safety precautions", in which technically the more people know about your plan etc, the more the professionals think that your plan can be "interrupted"… That's why often times in safety planning they require "someone" to check that you have "removed/limited access to means".

Yeah I understand why they do it, but I said to yesterday you will make me more suicidal if you involve them and I will be more upset and wanting to attempt something. He said if he feels I am in danger he can break the hippa rule of what ever it's called for patient safety

 

[ecolofienjoyer]

Hey all

I've been an impatient for over a week because I bought pure helium. I still feel it's the best way to go out and have contacts in place to get more helium when I leave.
My psychiatrist keeps wanting to involve my family, has that happened to anybody else?
I feel like it's my right what happens with me to be kept between me and my psychiatrist or treating team?
He keeps wanting to engage with my mother and my husband about what's going on with me.

When I was younger my psychologist shared things I shared with them in confidence with my parents. Never shared anything with them again after that. same happened to a friend of mine

 

[Terrible_Life]

Hey all

I've been an impatient for over a week because I bought pure helium. I still feel it's the best way to go out and have contacts in place to get more helium when I leave.
My psychiatrist keeps wanting to involve my family, has that happened to anybody else?
I feel like it's my right what happens with me to be kept between me and my psychiatrist or treating team?
He keeps wanting to engage with my mother and my husband about what's going on with me.

Some therapists do that to explain it to the family of the patient how much the person suffers and what he needs/ what the family should do, how they should behave especially that they should show empathy and support.
I remember my therapist wanted to do that but i was against it because my family would never behave properly the way you should behave towards a mentally ill person

 

[InevitableDeath]

Some therapists do that to explain it to the family of the patient how much the person suffers and what he needs/ what the family should do, how they should behave especially that they should show empathy and support.
I remember my therapist wanted to do that but i was against it because my family would never behave properly the way you should behave towards a mentally ill person

oh yeah, that's really gonna work with people who have been wrecking you for years. Abuser family pretending platitudes, so they look good in front of the fucking healthcare "professional" while you have to nod and smile and not tell them what utter cunts they are.

Some therapists are so fucking stupid, they treat us like morons. It is a fucking deceit

 

[nitrogenous]

I sent him a long letter yesterday saying not to involve them at all. They making me worse involving them

Yeah I understand why they do it, but I said to yesterday you will make me more suicidal if you involve them and I will be more upset and wanting to attempt something. He said if he feels I am in danger he can break the hippa rule of what ever it's called for patient safety

that is insane and I'm so sorry to hear that. I said the exact same thing how telling my family will cause me to be more suicidal. I reckon if it's possible perhaps ask someone else in the ward like the nurse manager on shift (although if this is your psychiatrist saying so that makes things so much more difficult). Maybe the only way is to tell them the exact scenario on how telling everything to your family will deteriorate your mental health and what will happen in more details so they know it's not just a threat vs how it's "safer" if family isn't notified. They wouldn't like to hold the risk of increasing your suicidality (and potential charges that come with that) if they keep on pushing you. I think you might need to keep pushing until they give up, albeit it being very hard…

 

[InevitableDeath]

that is insane and I'm so sorry to hear that. I said the exact same thing how telling my family will cause me to be more suicidal. I reckon if it's possible perhaps ask someone else in the ward like the nurse manager on shift (although if this is your psychiatrist saying so that makes things so much more difficult). Maybe the only way is to tell them the exact scenario on how telling everything to your family will deteriorate your mental health and what will happen in more details so they know it's not just a threat vs how it's "safer" if family isn't notified. They wouldn't like to hold the risk of increasing your suicidality (and potential charges that come with that) if they keep on pushing you. I think you might need to keep pushing until they give up, albeit it being very hard…

you're presuming the mh pros care and aren't just box ticking and actually want you out. Doesn't matter how it makes you feel, its MH pros covering their arses as if they're progressing anything.

 

[nitrogenous]

you're presuming the mh pros care and aren't just box ticking and actually want you out. Doesn't matter how it makes you feel, its MH pros covering their arses as if they're progressing anything

I'm not presuming they care, because I've been in the exact same situation and it was very frustrating. It's better to keep asking/pushing them rather than staying quiet and make them do whatever they want to… I know most of them are just there to get paid, which again is very difficult, but I still think it's better to try and stand up for your rights than being stomped by them.

 

[TimingOut]

I understand. I want to give up too

Who doesn't?