I hate that I was born female

[OutOfThisBody]

Women are weaker than men (thus making them more succeptible to violence and rape, leading to a boring very cautious life). Boring. Too sexual. Too effected emotionally by hormones. Womens bodies are like messed up versions of male bodies - It even grosses me out to excercise in a female body for example because it moves around too much. Everything on womens bodies are optimized to have children, to take care of something else, instead of being able to glorify themselves. Almost every area of life men have more benefits - for example men have larger singing ranges than women.

I want to shed my skin and never have to experience reality in a womans body again. I don't want to be weak anymore. I don't want to live in a world that would allow such things to exist.

 

[EvisceratedJester]

How are women boring? I went to an all-girls school when I was younger and it was pretty fun. Similar shit can be said about back when went to camp and I had to go on those camping trips with my cabin. Women also aren't too sexual? What even constitutes as too sexual? What does that even mean? Women also aren't anymore emotional in comparison to men.

The problem isn't women being inferior to men. The problem is your internalized misogyny...

 

[Death is my goal]

I'm quite the opposite, would've rather been born as a woman

 

[socrates]

I feel you, but on the opposite side of the spectrum. Though I think human bodies are just poorly designed in general. Also men are more likely to be murdered and even raped.

 

[Shadows From Hell]

I hate that I was born... Period.

 

[Death is my goal]

I feel you, but on the opposite side of the spectrum. Though I think human bodies are just poorly designed in general. Also men are more likely to be murdered and even raped.

how are they poorly designed?

 

[socrates]

how are they poorly designed?

Wisdom teeth, vestigial organs. How are DNA replicates. Teeth ate the only bones in are body that can't heal them selves. I could write a few paragraphs on how eye balls are absolute garbage. I'm just saying I want a refund

 

[Alexei_Kirillov]

I deeply empathize with you OP, for many years I struggled with hating my female body for many of the reasons you listed. While I feel better about it these days, I am still convinced that if God exists, it cannot be an intelligent designer due to the sheer absurdity of the female body.

I'd caution you against posting on SaSu about this though, every time the topic (and honestly anything surrounding gender) comes up it's pretty explosive. You may want to consider posting in the Women's Support thread though.

 

[Wanted Opioid]

You wouldn't feel any different if you were born as a man. You'd still experience the same life, be born in the same country, family, etc.
As a man, people would expect you to be tough, put up a strong front and work hard despite your problems.
You would also not get the same support and attention that women get when you talk about your emotions.

 

[ghost-shock]

You wouldn't feel any different if you were born as a man. You'd still experience the same life, be born in the same country, family, etc.
As a man, people would expect you to be tough, put up a strong front and work hard despite your problems.
You would also not get the same support and attention that women get when you talk about your emotions.

Im confused where is this magical support women are getting when we talk about our problems? I was ABUSED my WHOLE childhood and when i sought help as a teen no one gave a fck. Police didnt help, social services didnt help. One therapist said, thats just how men of that ethnic background act (when responding to my story of being abused by my step father) and she laughed it off. Ive been alone my whole life. In my ethnicity if you cry as a girl or boy your parents beat you and the more you cry the more your beat. Girls and boys both couldnt show emotions. I hate this idea that women are supposedly living this amazing life, you must be speaking of caucasian women.

 

[Death is my goal]

Wisdom teeth, vestigial organs. How are DNA replicates. Teeth ate the only bones in are body that can't heal them selves. I could write a few paragraphs on how eye balls are absolute garbage. I'm just saying I want a refund

it wasn't meant to be perfect

 

[YandereMikuMistress]

I genuinely hate being a women i have four older brothers,,
I feel men deal with there own difficulties we won't fully get just like we deal with difficulties men wont fully get same thing goes for different ethnicities, women and men, there'll be things within both sides of one another that we won't be able to fully relate to or experience or even understand but people can at least come together and find that form of "understanding" even if not entirely,, I don't know many difficulties my brothers have faced but ofcourse I don't understand there struggles as in depth as my own gender but through it all they've all been so physically strong,,and so I can't help but keep on having this wasteful wish that i could have been born a man, but im not and I never will be,, I will never garner respect from my brothers and father and grandpa and partner the way they do with echother and there friends, im not a man,, and I understand that, and I understand that there things to being a man that i wouldn't want to have to deal with, I acknowledge that, but, it doesn't keep me from wanting it as toxic as that may be,, but I don't wanna be trans or just wear guy clothes no I've accepted that im a women because biologically I unfortunately am.

 

[willow115]

I have a vague understanding but without the hatred of weakness. I prefer my body thin so the movements, maternal traits, and sexualization dies down.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I don't enjoy being female either. I can't say I really want to be male though. I expect both genders have their own issues. The major bug bears for me are: periods. It feels disgusting and painful to have blood oozing out of you. Especially when you have to work. I'd like to be stronger too. It would help for my job. I think it's easier for men to gain strength. Even fairly weak looking guys tend to be much stronger than me. I think there's also still a lot of misogyny out there too. Gender pay gaps, stuff like that.

I'm only thankful that I live where I do. Some countries, women suffer far worse. Lesotho, an African country has one of the highest suicide rates and unusually- more women commit than men. In part I suspect because there is so much violence towards them. Apparently, 86% of the female population have experienced it- including rape.

I'm also glad we live in the era we do and we have (comparitively) a lot more freedom. We likely won't be ostracised if we wear trousers and do more traditionally masculine jobs. A teacher of mine was an amazing sculptor. I expect she would have been incredible, given the opportunity. But, at the time, she was refused a place on the course because she 'was a woman and would be too weak'. At least things are slightly better now.

That's not to say men don't have it difficult too. These threads pretty much always descend into a pitty party between the sexes. Really though- neither of us can say we objectively have it worse. Neither of us know what it's like to be the other gender. Maybe guys wouldn't like it so much if they woke at 3am with period cramps. Maybe women would struggle with having so many specifically male problems.

I think both sexes have a lot of expectations placed on them. Plus- when they start comparing- they tend to compare between the most successful of that gender. So, men will envy attractive women who receive 'pretty privelages' but then- a lot of us aren't that pretty. It doesn't apply to a lot of us. Similarly, women probably aren't considering what it's like to be a short man who can't find a job. I expect we both struggle in our own ways.

We're bound to have a bias for what we have personally experienced but, it probably doesn't help to feel so much resentment towards our opposite gender. I think that's what tends to come out here. As in: 'You have it so much easier than me- being the gender you are. (Basically- screw your struggles- they're insignificant,) but- I still expect you to pity me. (Even after I've just belittled your problems.)' Not saying that you were doing that by the way OP, it's just, I can see it coming...

 

[Namelesa]

I don't enjoy being female either. I can't say I really want to be male though. I expect both genders have their own issues. The major bug bears for me are: periods. It feels disgusting and painful to have blood oozing out of you. Especially when you have to work. I'd like to be stronger too. It would help for my job. I think it's easier for men to gain strength. Even fairly weak looking guys tend to be much stronger than me. I think there's also still a lot of misogyny out there too. Gender pay gaps, stuff like that.

I'm only thankful that I live where I do. Some countries, women suffer far worse. Lesotho, an African country has one of the highest suicide rates and unusually- more women commit than men. In part I suspect because there is so much violence towards them. Apparently, 86% of the female population have experienced it- including rape.

I'm also glad we live in the era we do and we have (comparitively) a lot more freedom. We likely won't be ostracised if we wear trousers and do more traditionally masculine jobs. A teacher of mine was an amazing sculptor. I expect she would have been incredible, given the opportunity. But, at the time, she was refused a place on the course because she 'was a woman and would be too weak'. At least things are slightly better now.

That's not to say men don't have it difficult too. These threads pretty much always descend into a pitty party between the sexes. Really though- neither of us can say we objectively have it worse. Neither of us know what it's like to be the other gender. Maybe guys wouldn't like it so much if they woke at 3am with period cramps. Maybe women would struggle with having so many specifically male problems.

I think both sexes have a lot of expectations placed on them. Plus- when they start comparing- they tend to compare between the most successful of that gender. So, men will envy attractive women who receive 'pretty privelages' but then- a lot of us aren't that pretty. It doesn't apply to a lot of us. Similarly, women probably aren't considering what it's like to be a short man who can't find a job. I expect we both struggle in our own ways.

We're bound to have a bias for what we have personally experienced but, it probably doesn't help to feel so much resentment towards our opposite gender. I think that's what tends to come out here. As in: 'You have it so much easier than me- being the gender you are. (Basically- screw your struggles- they're insignificant,) but- I still expect you to pity me. (Even after I've just belittled your problems.)' Not saying that you were doing that by the way OP, it's just, I can see it coming...

As a trans girl who has experienced life through both the lenses of a boy and a girl this is true.

As a boy I would say I was less likely to be interacted by other people. My emotions are more dulled and didn't go to extremes. I did feel I wasn't able to express emotions as well to people cus of just being male. I was far less sexualized (only one other student in school did). I was a more weak nerdy person who hated sports so I was definitely hated in PE cus I wasn't good at.

As a girl more people interacted with me (whether that be positive or negative, defiantly got more people either complimenting me or making fun of me). My emotions have gone all over the place. I do feel like I can express them to people more but sometimes these emotions have burdened others. I am way more sexualized in public (I have once gotten a man just ask to have a sex with me while I was walking the dog. I even weaker but my hate for sports doesn't make people dislike me more.

Personally as a girl, life is better for me as I feel like I can handle womens difficulties more than mens and also not have gender dysphoria and just thinking I more pretty and get to wear clothes i want to and feeling more like myself. To me different people are going to have an easier or harder time dealing with a certain genders difficulties. Obviously different men and women will face different problems and experiences depending how their body, mental state and likes and dislikes and what they have previously went through.

I do think men should less sexualize us or do it in places were its more appropriate such as sex chat rooms. Personally I do like men(or any other gender) think I am attractive and sexualize me in a sex chat room but I don't like it when they just suddenly do it in public or someone randomly dms me for nudes.

 

[Wanted Opioid]

Im confused where is this magical support women are getting when we talk about our problems? I was ABUSED my WHOLE childhood and when i sought help as a teen no one gave a fck. Police didnt help, social services didnt help. One therapist said, thats just how men of that ethnic background act (when responding to my story of being abused by my step father) and she laughed it off. Ive been alone my whole life. In my ethnicity if you cry as a girl or boy your parents beat you and the more you cry the more your beat. Girls and boys both couldnt show emotions. I hate this idea that women are supposedly living this amazing life, you must be speaking of caucasian women.

I'm sorry you had to live through that.

From what I've seen in life so far, generally, it's way easier for women to get emotional support for depression and anxiety than men. And no, I didn't mean only caucasien women. I'm not caucasien.

 

[CPY]

There are advantages and issues with either but as a male life is objectively more difficult unlike the media would like us to believe

 

[OutOfThisBody]

There are advantages and issues with either but as a male life is objectively more difficult unlike the media would like us to believe

Omggg thanks for the contribution you are sooo smart
(If you can't tell, this is sarcasm)

 

[YandereMikuMistress]

There are advantages and issues with either but as a male life is objectively more difficult unlike the media would like us to believe

We can agree to disagree because I don't think either can be compared to one another entirely

 

[CPY]

Omggg thanks for the contribution you are sooo smart

indeed

 

[OutOfThisBody]

As a trans girl who has experienced life through both the lenses of a boy and a girl this is true.

As a boy I would say I was less likely to be interacted by other people. My emotions are more dulled and didn't go to extremes. I did feel I wasn't able to express emotions as well to people cus of just being male. I was far less sexualized (only one other student in school did). I was a more weak nerdy person who hated sports so I was definitely hated in PE cus I wasn't good at.

As a girl more people interacted with me (whether that be positive or negative, defiantly got more people either complimenting me or making fun of me). My emotions have gone all over the place. I do feel like I can express them to people more but sometimes these emotions have burdened others. I am way more sexualized in public (I have once gotten a man just ask to have a sex with me while I was walking the dog. I even weaker but my hate for sports doesn't make people dislike me more.

Personally as a girl, life is better for me as I feel like I can handle womens difficulties more than mens and also not have gender dysphoria and just thinking I more pretty and get to wear clothes i want to and feeling more like myself. To me different people are going to have an easier or harder time dealing with a certain genders difficulties. Obviously different men and women will face different problems and experiences depending how their body, mental state and likes and dislikes and what they have previously went through.

I do think men should less sexualize us or do it in places were its more appropriate such as sex chat rooms. Personally I do like men(or any other gender) think I am attractive and sexualize me in a sex chat room but I don't like it when they just suddenly do it in public or someone randomly dms me for nudes.

No one interacts with me lmao
Also I literally hate that womens emotions are all over the place

 

[Namelesa]

No one interacts with me lmao

I am sorry about that if you want more people to interact with you. I probably do get more attention cus of my emo fashion style which makes me stand out. I had boring clothes as a boy so I probably wasn't as interacted with for that reason. Different people of the same gender are going to have different experiences.

I want to add transmaxxing to this discussion cus I think it would interesting. Transmaxxing is when amab transitions into a woman not cus they have gender dysphoria but cus they want the social benefits of a woman and some have said their lives have benefited from it. I am surprised that there isn't transmaxxing for afab people who want to get the social benefits of a man.

If you do think the social benefits of man is more beneficial to you than a woman's social benefits and your totally comfortable with having a more masculine body and less extreme emotions then I would maybe suggest gender transition yourself into a man. It would also stop periods. Obviously take into consideration all the effects testosterone is going to have as it will do permanent changes to your body as well as the costs and the risks of being trans and maybe not "passing" as a cis man.

 

[radiohead]

I am surprised that there isn't transmaxxing for afab people who want to get the social benefits of a man.

oh there totally is. i'm not transmasc so it's difficult to comment but i've seen discussions like that plenty of times. usually along the lines of what the original post says but uhh there's a lot of that seemingly very low self-worth which persists in them even still. sidenote that i don't really think transmaxxing is real as a sole motivator but closer to disguised dysphoria and such. a ftm analog of what you said does exist though.

also cool picture :^)

 

[Namelesa]

oh there totally is. i'm not transmasc so it's difficult to comment but i've seen discussions like that plenty of times. usually along the lines of what the original post says but uhh there's a lot of that seemingly very low self-worth which persists in them even still. sidenote that i don't really think transmaxxing is real as a sole motivator but closer to disguised dysphoria and such. a ftm analog of what you said does exist though.

also cool picture :^)

I see, good to know it does exist. Definitely there have been people who have transmaxxed not releasing they have dysphoria themselves.

Thank you <3 My pfp is a Stranger Basil from Omori

 

[yowai]

Uhhhh this just reminded me of myself during puberty lol. The only things I hate about being a woman nowadays is the stupid shaving all the time and makeup, oh and periods. Jesus to think I used to like all that beauty stuff, but after awful sexual experiences I hate taking care of myself more than anything
And I wouldn't say males are any more rational than women lol.

 

[EvisceratedJester]

The only things I hate about being a woman nowadays is the stupid shaving all the time and makeup

You do realize that you don't have to shave or wear makeup if you don't want to, right? It's not like that's something that you are automatically required to do just because you are a woman. The last time I wore a full face of makeup was back when I was in grade 5 (it was for my dad's and ex-stepmother's wedding, which start was kind of a disaster, tbh).

 

[depthss]

this is a big thing for me too. especially the weakness part. i had weakness, both physical and mental. women are the weaker sex in both ways. too emotional, short, less muscle mass, less bone density, smaller hands and feet.
sure, there are some benefits. better hearing, better cognitive empathy, but it is nothing compared to the strength that men have naturally. the strongest women are worse than the weakest men. i would kill to be born male just for that alone

 

[yowai]

You do realize that you don't have to shave or wear makeup if you don't want to, right? It's not like that's something that you are automatically required to do just because you are a woman. The last time I wore a full face of makeup was back when I was in grade 5 (it was for my dad's and ex-stepmother's wedding, which start was kind of a disaster, tbh).

I dont wear any makeup around the house and only minimum amounts when I go out, recently I even skip that too. I'm also super insecure about my appearance so I cave in to the pressure sometimes. My sister is the exact opposite of me - functioning and doing well at life, even had an instagram page for her makeup looks so I feel so judged around her. Like not wearing makeup or other stuff is representing how much of a failure I am lmao. I don't shave my arms or legs either unless I'm wearing shorts because my skin is pale and hair dark so it stands out too much

 

[EvisceratedJester]

too emotional

Women are no more emotional in comparisons to men. Hell, I have no clue as to how people who use this site of all places still believe this.

 

[Namelesa]

Women are no more emotional in comparisons to men. Hell, I have no clue as to how people who use this site of all places still believe this.

in my personal experience I have become more emotional from transitioning to a girl with hrt. You may just a have different experience