Venting I hate how I will never achieve anything in my life

[Rocinante]

I'm 25, and people at my age or younger are actors, musicians, artists and what not. When I listen to music I very often fantasize about being the artist, so that everyone thinks highly of me. I want to be better than all the others. But I never did anything. I never created anything in my entire life. I never came up with anything on my own. Not even a joke. I'm the most uncreative person imaginable. I'm doing nothing but wasting away.

 

[sserafim]

It's not too late to turn things around

 

[Praestat_Mori]

I agree with @sserafim it's not too late to turn things around. But ik it's often difficult to make the first step and try sth.

 

[derpyderpins]

I'm 25, and people at my age or younger are actors, musicians, artists and what not. When I listen to music I very often fantasize about being the artist, so that everyone thinks highly of me. I want to be better than all the others. But I never did anything. I never created anything in my entire life. I never came up with anything on my own. Not even a joke. I'm the most uncreative person imaginable. I'm doing nothing but wasting away.

The first step is trying and finishing. I recently had a friend ask me about music production, because he wants to give it a go, and he sat there while I pulled up my DAW (program to make the song, basically) and he was clearly pretty overwhelmed after a few minutes. I told him the key at first is to do something simple and see it through to the end. Even if it's shit, finish the song, then move on to the next one. (No matter what you make at first, it will sound like shit to you later.) I assume this theory could translate to visual art. Use your pain and frustration.

You got a positive, encouraging message from @sserafim . That's like drawing the ultimate good luck fortune. It's like a tarot reading producing an upright fortune and sun next to each other. I'd take that good juju and get started right now without hesitation.

 

[Dark Window]

You don't need to achieve anything other than a life that is enjoyable.

 

[lizzywizzy09]

You're 25. As long as you have your health, it's not too late to turn it around. Could always change your mind if it doesn't pan out.

 

[LifeIsBS]

You don't need to achieve anything other than a life that is enjoyable.

true, that's my take, sorry if it sounds harsh but imho - "being better than others and them thinking highly of me" is a road to misery and an overall unsatisfied life, believe it or not there will ALWAYS gonna be that one guy who is better than you. once you realise that, you start to feel "light" and satisfied with your creations. and instead of getting discouraged with other's creations, you can take inspiration or ideas to make something even more creative since creativity has no bounds. that is just my take, don't take it to heart :)

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

It could be worse, you could be 30 with all that stuff going on, oh wait that's what my life is basically like.

Well, I guess you could decide that life can still be worth living without having any special talents or skills or achievements to your name. Plenty of people still thrive and flourish in this world in spite of their mediocrity and lack of creativity.

For a perfect example of this, here's a helpful yet painful quote from the excruciatingly moronic yet highly amusing Madame Web movie that came out earlier this year:

When you take on the responsibility, great power will come.

Someone got paid to write that. Someone else got paid to edit this dogshit movie. No amount of skill or achievement in the world will ever undo that. Learn to embrace your lack of strength and make it your own (if you want).

 

[Unknown21]

My problem has been for the rest of my life, I cannot be creative or even think clearly in a specific direction. I think this is because my brain is not as functional as other people's. I was exposed to severe trauma and abuse in my childhood and this played a major role. Some mental illnesses also limit creativity and imagination, such as autism.

 

[sserafim]

It could be worse, you could be 30 with all that stuff going on, oh wait that's what my life is basically like.

Well, I guess you could decide that life can still be worth living without having any special talents or skills or achievements to your name. Plenty of people still thrive and flourish in this world in spite of their mediocrity and lack of creativity.

For a perfect example of this, here's a helpful yet painful quote from the excruciatingly moronic yet highly amusing Madame Web movie that came out earlier this year:



Someone got paid to write that. Someone else got paid to edit this dogshit movie. No amount of skill or achievement in the world will ever undo that. Learn to embrace your lack of strength and make it your own (if you want).

I'd hate to be mediocre and just average. I want to be exceptional

 

[derpyderpins]

I'd hate to be mediocre. I want to be exceptional. I'd hate to be just average

The question is: 'what's average?' (Beyond, I suppose, what criteria we're evaluating with in the first place.) @Dr Iron Arc has a bachelor's degree, instantly putting him in the top half at minimum (if we're examining career/academic success.) Where does average end for you, and where does exceptional begin, I wonder.

 

[Darkover]

creativity has no bounds.

but the universe does have limitations and creativity is suppressed because of it, computers are reaching the fundamental limits of the universe, you'll never be able to simulate anything worthwhile because of these limitations nothing can travel faster than the speed of light so computers can't compute any faster than the speed of light which is highly inadequate the universe is insufficient for creativity

 

[Vicolo cieco]

Not being a failure would be enough for me. I'd like to have some semblance of a normal life.

 

[LifeIsBS]

but the universe does have limitations and creativity is suppressed because of it, computers are reaching the fundamental limits of the universe, you'll never be able to simulate anything worthwhile because of these limitations nothing can travel faster than the speed of light so computers can't compute any faster than the speed of light which is highly inadequate the universe is insufficient for creativity

we just lack the knowledge and that's the main limitation, computers are nowhere near their possible full potential, it's just the starting if you ask me, who knows, if there exists a computer that transfers data in an instant without using a medium by bending space itself. and i don't think any human would feel that universe is somehow limiting his creativity... he must've had to be some divine entity at that point XD , And yeah i got your point, there are rules in this universe so there has to be limitations too, but again, we don't know.
(i am no expert, these are just my thoughts)

 

[Darkover]

we just lack the knowledge and that's the main limitation, computers are nowhere near their possible full potential, it's just the starting if you ask me, who knows, if there exists a computer that transfers data in an instant without using a medium by bending space itself. and i don't think any human would feel that universe is somehow limiting his creativity... he must've had to be some divine entity at that point XD , And yeah i got your point, there are rules in this universe so there has to be limitations too, but again, we don't know.
(i am no expert, these are just my thoughts)

actual Universe sucks imo. Why? Because the laws of physics suck! Our brains are limited. Everything is finite and limited! I hate it. Information density is limited, energy density is limited, computing power is limited. And the limits are insurmountable! They exist because of the fundamental laws of physics, like the speed of light/causality being the limit for speed. Also, your lifespan is finite

Back to computing limits: For example, physics is limited in what it can simulate, because of this you can't simulate any complex system in this trash Universe. The maximum they can simulate is a few thousand atoms at most. And that's only in little detail and with simple interactions. Pathetic. And since computing power is already reaching its limits we will never be able to compute really useful things. Pathetic.

I absolutely hate that everything is finite and limited. I hate that the speed of causality(c) is so low I hate that matter can only get so small and so every material is limited and discrete. It would actually be a lot more tolerable if these limits were much higher up to where they don't impede on my fun. But NO, they have to be pathetically low. The speed of causality is very slow! It takes 4 years just to get from the Earth to the nearest solar system. And it takes over 100 milliseconds for information to be carried around Earth. That's pathetically slow.

 

[LifeIsBS]

actual Universe sucks imo. Why? Because the laws of physics suck! Our brains are limited. Everything is finite and limited! I hate it. Information density is limited, energy density is limited, computing power is limited. And the limits are insurmountable! They exist because of the fundamental laws of physics, like the speed of light/causality being the limit for speed. Also, your lifespan is finite

Back to computing limits: For example, physics is limited in what it can simulate, because of this you can't simulate any complex system in this trash Universe. The maximum they can simulate is a few thousand atoms at most. And that's only in little detail and with simple interactions. Pathetic. And since computing power is already reaching its limits we will never be able to compute really useful things. Pathetic.

I absolutely hate that everything is finite and limited. I hate that the speed of causality(c) is so low I hate that matter can only get so small and so every material is limited and discrete. It would actually be a lot more tolerable if these limits were much higher up to where they don't impede on my fun. But NO, they have to be pathetically low. The speed of causality is very slow! It takes 4 years just to get from the Earth to the nearest solar system. And it takes over 100 milliseconds for information to be carried around Earth. That's pathetically slow.

yep, human body suck, hard agree on this. for the rest i have kinda different takes on them, and thats fine :) .i would love to share opinions, this is kind of interesting if you wanna talk, if not, that is fine too.

 

[Darkover]

yep, human body suck, hard agree on this. for the rest i have kinda different takes on them, and thats fine :) .i would love to share opinions, this is kind of interesting if you wanna talk, if not, that is fine too.

Moore's law predicted that the number of transistors would double every two years from 1971, This prediction remained fairly accurate for nearly 50 years now we are printing transistors almost the size of atoms this is know as the nanometer scale or one million nanometers in one millimeter one atom size is equal to about 0.3 nanometer
this is the physical fundamental limit of computing


If you could travel at the speed of light, you could go around the Earth 7.5 times in one second
light speed in meters per second
300,000,000 meters
300,000,000,000 millimeters
300,000,000,000,000 micrometers
300,000,000,000,000,000 nanometers


Drift velocity, the average speed at which electrons travel in a conductor when subjected to an electric field, is about 1mm per second.
It's the electromagnetic wave rippling through the electrons that propagates at close to the speed of light.

calculation shows that the electron is traveling at about 2,200 kilometers per second.
That's less than 1% of the speed of light, but it's fast enough

electron speed in meters per second
2,200,000 meters
2,200,000,000 millimeters
2,200,000,000,000 micrometers
2,200,000,000,000,000 nanometers

 

[ijustwishtodie]

I never achieved much either though, in my case, I never really had a desire to achieve anything. I see me achieving things as it being completely pointless and exhausting. Since I never desired to achieve anything nor will I ever want to achieve anything, I believe that I should be allowed euthanasia to escape life because, in the end, a life where I do things out of obligation rather than because I want to is no life to live at all.

Either way, if achieving things is what you want to do, I wish you the best of luck in that

 

[derpyderpins]

I'm 25, and people at my age or younger are actors, musicians, artists and what not. When I listen to music I very often fantasize about being the artist, so that everyone thinks highly of me.

I get this feeling. Sometimes I'll hear a really good track, particularly from someone indy who doesn't have a massive studio backing, and even if I really like it I actually get pissed that it's so good.

 

[surroundedbydemons]

people at my age or younger are actors, musicians, artists and what not.

Survivorship bias. The majority have not achieved anything - that is why you don't hear about them at all.

It's not too late to turn things around

I agree, but it is not only about that. @Rocinante, it's about continuously setting new goals for yourself, whether you're at the top or have hit a plateau.

Take care.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

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The question is: 'what's average?' (Beyond, I suppose, what criteria we're evaluating with in the first place.) @Dr Iron Arc has a bachelor's degree, instantly putting him in the top half at minimum (if we're examining career/academic success.) Where does average end for you, and where does exceptional begin, I wonder.

My degree is literally BS. That doesn't just stand for Bachelor of Sciences for me.

I think everything else about me is either painfully average or so far below average. Including my IQ.

I'd hate to be mediocre and just average. I want to be exceptional

Sometimes I agree. Truly the Asian lens of perfection is a difficult thing to remove. It makes us no better than our parents in that regard.

 

[derpyderpins]

My degree is literally BS. That doesn't just stand for Bachelor of Sciences for me.

I think everything else about me is either painfully average or so far below average. Including my IQ.


Sometimes I agree. Truly the Asian lens of perfection is a difficult thing to remove. It makes us no better than our parents in that regard.

(Most degrees are BS, not as in Bachelor of Sciences)

Is your IQ below average or below Asian average, lol? Oh shit, I better hide since I pointed out asians have higher IQs on average.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

(Most degrees are BS, not as in Bachelor of Sciences)

Is your IQ below average or below Asian average, lol? Oh shit, I better hide since I pointed out asians have higher IQs on average.

This is true though my degree is especially bs because I barely remember anything from it.

I've never taken a full on IQ test but I remember being much dumber and less motivated in school than my Asian peers. I never took honors classes and I only took a couple AP courses in high school. My GPA has only ever been around 3.0-3.4 My SAT score was 1990. That's about all I know in terms of formal evaluations.

 

[derpyderpins]

This is true though my degree is especially bs because I barely remember anything from it.

I've never taken a full on IQ test but I remember being much dumber and less motivated in school than my Asian peers. I never took honors classes and I only took a couple AP courses in high school. My GPA has only ever been around 3.0-3.4 My SAT score was 1990. That's about all I know in terms of formal evaluations.

(Most people barely remember anything from their degrees by the time they get to be our age.)

So you are absolutely not below average unless you limit the population you are comparing yourself to. I think we tend to forget how many people there are who are completely uneducated, illiterate, etc. God, I had to review high school essays to choose the winner of an award recently and I swear even the supposedly "smart" kids these days are braindead and make your posts on here look nobel-prize worthy.

 

[divinemistress36]

25 is way young . I know people in their 20s think they need to have everything accomplished by 30 cause they think 30 is old i use to think that to. Theres only a small percentage of people who achieve stuff in their 20s. Most people are medicore anyways and very few people accomplish what they want anyways, life is chaos

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

(Most people barely remember anything from their degrees by the time they get to be our age.)

So you are absolutely not below average unless you limit the population you are comparing yourself to. I think we tend to forget how many people there are who are completely uneducated, illiterate, etc. God, I had to review high school essays to choose the winner of an award recently and I swear even the supposedly "smart" kids these days are braindead and make your posts on here look nobel-prize worthy.

I don't think it's fair comparing me to the kids these days what with all the Chat GPTs they can cheat with and the TikToks rottin' their brains and probably the 2-3 years of remote learning didn't do them any favors either.

If I just compare myself to the people from my university, from my major, who took the same classes as me and graduated at the same time, I'd say I'm definitely doing worse than them in that respect. I suppose it helps a little to expand the domain until I include every example of human suffering to compare myself with but that just leads me to think I can't even suffer right and have still failed to be perfect even at failing. That's not always how I feel though.

 

[derpyderpins]

I don't think it's fair comparing me to the kids these days what with all the Chat GPTs they can cheat with and the TikToks rottin' their brains and probably the 2-3 years of remote learning didn't do them any favors either.

If I just compare myself to the people from my university, from my major, who took the same classes as me and graduated at the same time, I'd say I'm definitely doing worse than them in that respect. I suppose it helps a little to expand the domain until I include every example of human suffering to compare myself with but that just leads me to think I can't even suffer right and have still failed to be perfect even at failing. That's not always how I feel though.

Well, and I guess this is my point, and I think it's an interesting topic when we talk about what's "average."

<40% of people age 25 and older in the U.S. have a bachelor's degree or more. That's any bachelor's: shit subjects, shit schools, shit grades, just so long as the degree was obtained.

What percent of those 40% went to as good of a school as you?

What percent of the remainder took as good of a major?

What percent of the remainder got as good of grades?

That's the group that you choose to compare yourself to. Let's call it the top 20%. That's not excluding "every example of human suffering," that's excluding 80% of people!

How you feel is different. I feel like a complete nobody even though I know I'm not based on the above logic. That's a great argument I made, but I won't apply it to myself.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

Well, and I guess this is my point, and I think it's an interesting topic when we talk about what's "average."

<40% of people age 25 and older in the U.S. have a bachelor's degree or more. That's any bachelor's: shit subjects, shit schools, shit grades, just so long as the degree was obtained.

What percent of those 40% went to as good of a school as you?

What percent of the remainder took as good of a major?

What percent of the remainder got as good of grades?

That's the group that you choose to compare yourself to. Let's call it the top 20%. That's not excluding "every example of human suffering," that's excluding 80% of people!

How you feel is different. I feel like a complete nobody even though I know I'm not based on the above logic. That's a great argument I made, but I won't apply it to myself.

Yeah it's easy to say stuff like this to others and be right about picturing other people this way but once I have to look inward? Nuh-uh. At least those 80% of humans surely have to have accomplished and achieved something better than me right? What do I know?

For what it's worth, my school and major were fine but where I fucked up was not socializing enough. That's kind of the only way to get jobs with a business degree (or maybe a small loan of a million dollars).

 

[rokonie]

I don't think it's fair comparing me to the kids these days what with all the Chat GPTs they can cheat with and the TikToks rottin' their brains and probably the 2-3 years of remote learning didn't do them any favors either.

If I just compare myself to the people from my university, from my major, who took the same classes as me and graduated at the same time, I'd say I'm definitely doing worse than them in that respect. I suppose it helps a little to expand the domain until I include every example of human suffering to compare myself with but that just leads me to think I can't even suffer right and have still failed to be perfect even at failing. That's not always how I feel though.

I consider myself average at everything because i always compare against people doing "better"/above avg in the thing that im comparing. I got mostly A's or -A's my whole degree, a few+A's in classes i really enjoyed, but I feel painfully average everyone i compare against can easily get mostly +A's. I've had work experience at 2 places but others have more AND extracurriculars on top of that. I recognize there were many classmates who had worse grades and no internships under their belt but they never come into my brain when im gauging myself against my peers.
As an artist i feel that way about my art too. I'm always going to compare myself to people who draw better and have a larger following. I don't think my art's that great because i don't have an arbitrary amount of followers. Social media is so toxic but i need internet validation.
I feel like i only ever compare myself to make myself feel worse. I guess ive never really let myself admit when im good at something because i don't want to give myself that satisfaction.

 

[DefinitelyReady]

I don't think it's fair comparing me to the kids these days what with all the Chat GPTs they can cheat with and the TikToks rottin' their brains and probably the 2-3 years of remote learning didn't do them any favors either.

If I just compare myself to the people from my university, from my major, who took the same classes as me and graduated at the same time, I'd say I'm definitely doing worse than them in that respect. I suppose it helps a little to expand the domain until I include every example of human suffering to compare myself with but that just leads me to think I can't even suffer right and have still failed to be perfect even at failing. That's not always how I feel though.

Oh cheaters will find ways to cheat... 10yrs ago I was taking a computer course online with my sister (who is the computer nerd) and she would email me all the highlighted verbatim questions/answers she found on the internet because she said it was a useless, time wasting course, or however she worded it. Plus she was a mom but still. Stupid me was trying to memorize the loads of answers to questions that I had little knowledge of just for the grade

I consider myself average at everything because i always compare against people doing "better"/above avg in the thing that im comparing. I got mostly A's or -A's my whole degree, a few+A's in classes i really enjoyed, but I feel painfully average everyone i compare against can easily get mostly +A's. I've had work experience at 2 places but others have more AND extracurriculars on top of that. I recognize there were many classmates who had worse grades and no internships under their belt but they never come into my brain when im gauging myself against my peers.
As an artist i feel that way about my art too. I'm always going to compare myself to people who draw better and have a larger following. I don't think my art's that great because i don't have an arbitrary amount of followers. Social media is so toxic but i need internet validation.
I feel like i only ever compare myself to make myself feel worse. I guess ive never really let myself admit when im good at something because i don't want to give myself that satisfaction.

I forget what that's called... not being able to accept compliments or your achievements. We feel undeserving and it feels unnatural. A programmed perfectionist. What's worse is it can start really young... I remember getting a low A or god forbid, just a passing A, and I felt like I was in the bottom percentile even though that was not the case. But there was no way in hell you could convince me otherwise. Maybe that's partly how you get admitted to a hospital at age 12 Hell if I know. I also didn't have a pressuring parent so was just f**ked from Jumpstreet. (And I'm not that damn old, I only just watched JumpStreet this year lol.)