TheGoodGuy

TheGoodGuy

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I had a fun and exciting life and got to experience a lot of things granted that was in my childhood and teenage years and I am now 26 and my real life ended many years ago I can´t even comprehend that I am actually 26 years old when I look back at the last 6 years I see nothing, no friends, no new exciting or fun memories, no life I have just existed it´s just like a blank box

I had my happiness and fun in life and you know what I have lived an amazing life but it ended long ago now I have overstayed my welcome by many years I just wish my body also would have died when my life actually ended if that makes sense.
 
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Same I wish my first suicide attempt at 14 would have done the job. Now I'm 25, miserable and unemployed. I'm determined to CTB before I turn 26 though I'm done.
 
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TheGoodGuy

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Same I wish my first suicide attempt at 14 would have done the job. Now I'm 25, miserable and unemployed. I'm determined to CTB before I turn 26 though I'm done.
Weird coincidense I got depression when I was 13/early 14 I would have been saved from so many years of suffering if I had ctb at that time and at 25 I also felt determined to ctb before turning 26 because at least I would "only" and be 25 even though that is way to old for me but being 26 I am literally closer to 30 than I am to my teenage years :'(
 
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Sensei

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@TheGoodGuy, I'm sure you've heard this many times before, but I say it anyway: you're still young and things can change. That's been my experience in life, so I really mean it, but I understand you if you dismiss it as a platitude. If you want to kill yourself when you reach my age, I'll probably say, "That might be a good idea. What method do you have in mind?" You're not there yet, though. Well, only you know what to do with your life, but I hope you won't throw in the towel just yet.
 
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@TheGoodGuy, I'm sure you've heard this many times before, but I say it anyway: you're still young and things can change. That's been my experience in life, so I really mean it, but I understand you if you dismiss it as a platitude. If you want to kill yourself when you reach my age, I'll probably say, "That might be a good idea. What method do you have in mind?" You're not there yet, though. Well, only you know what to do with your life, but I hope you won't throw in the towel just yet.
I find this insulting I don´t need no pro-life tip from a person who doesn´t even know half my problems I have about a dozen physical and mental problems several of them being chronical problems which means they will NEVER go away would you tell a termanily ill cancer patient that "you´re still young things can change" people who are 50+ are healthier than me I have suffered enough and I have accepted that I will ctb soon so I don´t need anymore of all that pro-life stuff it won´t magically cure my throat problem, my back injury in the middle of my spine, my psoriasis, aspergers just to name a few.
 
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I'm sure you've heard this many times before, but I say it anyway: you're still young and things can change.
I find this insulting I don´t need no pro-life tip from a person who doesn´t even know half my problems
yeah i agree with @TheGoodGuy here it's kind of insulting, young people can be completely fucked too, it's almost like depression gatekeeping in a way.
 
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TheGoodGuy

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yeah i agree with @TheGoodGuy here it's kind of insulting, young people can be completely fucked too, it's almost like depression gatekeeping in a way.
Exactly some unlucky "young" people can even have worse physical problems (me) than 50-60 year olds but because I look healthy people just assume I am healthy and as I mentioned I have several severe chronical problems so they will never go away so no way to improve.

I get so angry because this pro-life shit I have to put up with on every other forum and in real life people come to Sanctioned Suicide exactly because it´s in fact a sanctuary for people who are suicidal to get rid of all the pro-life tips e.g. "it will get better" "just think positive" etc. I tried all those things for years and my condition only got worse year by year

And to be frank I think I am even in a worse position since I lived life at 100% happiness and excitement as a child i.e. heaven on Earth so to know how amazing life used to be only to suffer for so many years is worse because I know how incredibly wonderful life can be I just want out now I can´t take this anymore.
 
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Passersby

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Exactly some unlucky "young" people can even have worse physical problems (me) than 50-60 year olds but because I look healthy people just assume I am healthy and as I mentioned I have several severe chronical problems so they will never go away so no way to improve.

I get so angry because this pro-life shit I have to put up with on every other forum and in real life people come to Sanctioned Suicide exactly because it´s in fact a sanctuary for people who are suicidal to get rid of all the pro-life tips e.g. "it will get better" "just think positive" etc. I tried all those things for years and my condition only got worse year by year

And to be frank I think I am even in a worse position since I lived life at 100% happiness and excitement as a child i.e. heaven on Earth so to know how amazing life used to be only to suffer for so many years is worse because I know how incredibly wonderful life can be I just want out now I can´t take this anymore.
Hello, Good Guy,
I know what you mean. Plenty of 60 yr old living way better healthier lives than me. But then again most people are living better than me especially if your even actually living. Lol. I also have chronic physical problems and mental as well. Like you said if people can't see it then they think your fine. With me also there is nothing to see unless they were to hang out with me for a while they might notice some distress and restless things but overall nothing to see. So in a way that makes it even worse. I am sick and tired of everyone and there pro life views too! Having that view is fine but just don't push it on me like society does. I am like you in the fact that I am NOT going to get better because I know this without having to explain. It's Chronic. These prolife mindsets are against ctb at all costs. They don't understand things like Unbearable, Forever, Breaking point, Not fixable , intolerable, etc.

I have also lived an amazing life of freedom before these troubles as well. So I know where your coming from. Just saying. Hopefully magic will fall into your lap because it sounds like thats what it's going to take for us.
 
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Sensei

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I find this insulting I don´t need no pro-life tip from a person who doesn´t even know half my problems I have about a dozen physical and mental problems several of them being chronical problems which means they will NEVER go away would you tell a termanily ill cancer patient that "you´re still young things can change" people who are 50+ are healthier than me I have suffered enough and I have accepted that I will ctb soon so I don´t need anymore of all that pro-life stuff it won´t magically cure my throat problem, my back injury in the middle of my spine, my psoriasis, aspergers just to name a few.

Ah, so you have several chronic conditions. I didn't know that. Well, then it is kind of insulting. I have a chronic condition myself, and if suicide rates can be used as a measure, it's the most tormenting condition you can ever suffer from, and I do find it a bit insulting when people don't understand why I harbour a desire to die. I'm sorry, TheGoodGuy. Please accept my apologies. I should have known better. (This doesn't change the fact that things still can change in your life, though. The problem is of course that the probability is extremely low. For some members of this forum, the odds can be be 1:2, for others 1:1,000,000. I assume yours are closer to the latter.)

I don't think you should misuse, or perhaps I should say abuse, the term pro-life, though; I see many people do it around here. To be pro-choice is to not want to deny anyone the right to commit suicide or judge them for exercising that right. It's not to be of the opinion that suicide is always the best option or that suicide is something positive. For instance, I think most people would agree that you can be pro-choice but still reject the idea that little children should have the right to commit suicide. It's the same thing with being pro-choice and pro-life in regards of abortion, really. You can fight for women's right to get an abortion and refrain from judging women who decide to go through with it, but still think that an abortion is a tragedy and discuss other options with a mother who plans to get one. As for me, do you think I would submit posts and threads about how to kill yourself with a minimum of pain and agony if I wasn't pro-choice?


yeah i agree with @TheGoodGuy here it's kind of insulting, young people can be completely fucked too, it's almost like depression gatekeeping in a way.

Indeed, young people can be "completely fucked up too". (I know this for a fact, because I'm a teacher. For obvious reasons I don't discuss my pro-choice stance with my teenage pupils.) The problem is that young people almost invariably are worse at evaluating their life situation logically. After all, their brains aren't fully developed, they have little life experience, and they haven't had time to sharpen their analytical skills. I'm sure some young members of this forum will find this insulting, but I don't give a shit to be frank.
 
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TheGoodGuy

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I am like you in the fact that I am NOT going to get better because I know this without having to explain. It's Chronic. These prolife mindsets are against ctb at all costs. They don't understand things like Unbearable, Forever, Breaking point, Not fixable , intolerable, etc.
And the key word is 'chronic' at least to shut some people up but still there are some that say we have to keep trying and I am like how many years of suffering is it worth even if it was magically possible to recover as an old man in my 50´s what "life" would that have been?

And as I already explained and so did you we have lived life me personally in childhood and teenage years and quite frankly at this point I don´t think I want to actually recover I know it sound ludicrous but by now I just want something to push me over the edge so I can finally ctb and here is why.

When I was 18-20 I planned to kill myself I had depression along with my throat problem and some minor problems at the time but the depressions and racing teenage hormones gave me such a drive of sadness to kill myself yet I decided to give life another chance how foolish of me. Now my physical and mental health is worse than ever and because of no more racing teenage hormones mixed with depression I feel no sadness I only "feel" apathy and anhedonia there is no emotional drive to ctb so I need something to give me the extra push I need since feelings/emotions are none existent for me except anger.
I don't think you should misuse, or perhaps I should say abuse, the term pro-life, though; I see many people do it around here. To be pro-life is to not want to deny anyone the right to commit suicide or judge them for exercising that right. It's not to be of the opinion that suicide is always the best option or that suicide is something positive. For instance, I think most people would agree that you can be pro-choice but still reject the idea that little children should have the right to commit suicide. It's the same thing with being pro-choice and pro-life in regards of abortion, really. You can fight for women's right to get an abortion and refrain from judging women who decide to go through with it, but still think that an abortion is a tragedy and discuss other options with a mother who plans to get one. As for me, do you think I would submit posts and threads about how to kill yourself with a minimum of pain and agony if I wasn't pro-choice?
I don´t know anything about your previous posts and you might be pro-choice but your post to me clearly stated that you are pro-life for the "young" that I am too young to kill myself even if I wasn´t chronically ill age doesn´t define suffering for me you could be 12 and I would still respect your right to die since you never asked to be born in the first place.

And I think the term forced-lifers are more accurate than pro-lifers, you´re not against abortions even though being alive has a chance of immense suffering and pain while never being born would result in no suffering i.e. antinatalism life is a curse even if you´re healthy because once you grow up you will have to wageslave to keep existing and be loaded with tons of responsibilities so although it´s unpopular to say I am pro-death because humanity is a decease and we need to be eradicated, humans are the terrorists of the Earth ALL of US not just others but me too.
 
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Me too. I also feel I overstayed with my life. I'm also 26 but feel I should've died around 9 or 10 years old when I was drowned in a pool. My overstay hurt lots of people. If at 26 some people still feeling too young to suicide, I don't know what's the "appropriate" age.
 
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I had a fun and exciting life and got to experience a lot of things granted that was in my childhood and teenage years and I am now 26 and my real life ended many years ago I can´t even comprehend that I am actually 26 years old when I look back at the last 6 years I see nothing, no friends, no new exciting or fun memories, no life I have just existed it´s just like a blank box

I had my happiness and fun in life and you know what I have lived an amazing life but it ended long ago now I have overstayed my welcome by many years I just wish my body also would have died when my life actually ended if that makes sense.
I can imagine how you're feeling and I'm sorry. My life ended before my teenage years, I'm still pretty young, but I feel like a 60 years old person waiting for retirement.
 
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I can imagine how you're feeling and I'm sorry. My life ended before my teenage years, I'm still pretty young, but I feel like a 60 years old person waiting for retirement.
Retirement as a teenager or "young" adult is retirement we just need to end it we lived our lives we just need to end it prematurely.
 
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I had a fun and exciting life and got to experience a lot of things granted that was in my childhood and teenage years and I am now 26 and my real life ended many years ago I can´t even comprehend that I am actually 26 years old when I look back at the last 6 years I see nothing, no friends, no new exciting or fun memories, no life I have just existed it´s just like a blank box

I had my happiness and fun in life and you know what I have lived an amazing life but it ended long ago now I have overstayed my welcome by many years I just wish my body also would have died when my life actually ended if that makes sense.
It truly makes perfect sense. This so speaks to me.
 
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Sensei

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I don´t know anything about your previous posts and you might be pro-choice [...]

Well, I shan't bore you with a long list of posts, but I think this one is farily interesting at least: Accidents and natural deaths. I can't recall that you've discussed suicide methods very much. Are you pro-life perchance?

[...] but your post to me clearly stated that you are pro-life for the "young" that I am too young to kill myself even if I wasn´t chronically ill age doesn´t define suffering for me you could be 12 and I would still respect your right to die since you never asked to be born in the first place.

I can tell that you haven't read my post properly (Maybe because you're too young and immature to discuss complex topics in a systematic manner? HA HA HA! Just kidding.) so I don't really see the point in continuing this discussion. If you take the time to really read my post and address my points, I'll happily continue the discussion.

And I think the term forced-lifers are more accurate than pro-lifers, you´re not against abortions even though being alive has a chance of immense suffering and pain while never being born would result in no suffering i.e. antinatalism life is a curse even if you´re healthy because once you grow up you will have to wageslave to keep existing and be loaded with tons of responsibilities so although it´s unpopular to say I am pro-death because humanity is a decease and we need to be eradicated, humans are the terrorists of the Earth ALL of US not just others but me too.

That was just an analogy. I'm not against abortions as I think women should have the right to decide over their own bodies. I don't think it should be used as some kind of contraceptive, though, as it often scars women mentally and costs money. Or, rather, that's what I used to think. I'm too tired to really care anymore and mankind can just as well die out as far as I'm concerned. It doesn't matter to me if they use abortions, nuclear weapons, or something else. (I'm really a very cheerful person, just like you.) I do care for people who live in pain, though, as their pain often is inflicted or amplified by other people or society, and they're thus not to be blamed for the follies and evils of mankind.
 
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