I don't understand all the bad media

[itsallover]

I've seen articles on here where the site is blamed for someone's suicide and as someone who joined, then tried/failed do not blame the site in the least bit. Absolutely nobody is promoting suicide here. In fact, I am in support groups for my physical illness but don't feel as loved as I do here. This is where you can express your darkest, deepest thoughts and if you do need advice not to fuck up and end up a vegetable get the right advice. What the hell do those people want who lost a loved one, for them to keep suffering in a life not worth living, or to go visit them in a nursing home cause they screwed up an attempt. I am lucky that I am not a vegetable and if I do anything again Im gonna try to get the approval of as many members as I can. People don't understand how intense survival instinct is that I had to get high in order to overdose. I just wanna say as an old timer here since two years ago that I joined that I appreciate and love each and every one of you.

 

[Sans]

They don't care about our well being at all. They just want us to suffer. They want to take away the only space we have left where we can talk about our plight with like minded people.

 

[BeansOfRequirement]

I had to get high in order to overdose

200 IQ.

This is where you can express your darkest, deepest thoughts

I haven't done this yet, would definitely get banned lol (already got warned for doing this once, heh). I feel free to share my vulnerabilities and shit, which is really the thing that's better off being shared.

 

[TessB]

I haven't done this yet, would definitely get banned lol

Well I want to know now!

 

[BeansOfRequirement]

Well I want to know now!

Typing it would be so retarded that I would need to be back on the demon pills and have a lot of vodka running through my veins to post it, sorry.

 

[itsallover]

200 IQ.

I haven't done this yet, would definitely get banned lol (already got warned for doing this once, heh). I feel free to share my vulnerabilities and shit, which is really the thing that's better off being shared.

You're right, you gotta keep some sort of filter on it still. I did that once with a shrink and into the ward i went.

 

[yeahwellso]

They just want us to suffer. They want to take away the only space we have left where we can talk abou

Nope. That's paranoid black and white thinking.

And this isn't the "only space left", it's just the only space you know about. Black and white thinking again.

 

[KuriGohan&Kamehameha]

Nope. That's paranoid black and white thinking.

And this isn't the "only space left", it's just the only space you know about. Black and white thinking again.

I disagree with this.

I've used suicideforum and have been a member of at least 8 support groups or forums for chronic illnesses, disabilities, and ptsd. This is the only site I've ever been on where I can openly speak my mind about suicidal thoughts without being censored or banned.

Like OP said, this is probably one of the last communities out here that hasn't sanitised all discussion regarding suicide. The majority of online communities have strict rules about this topic and have continued to tighten them due to suicide spikes during lockdown.

I don't believe that the mods and users of the other sites purposefully want us to suffer, they think they are doing a noble thing by preaching 100% prevention. Which in some cases, ctb is preventable, but in others it may not be. They think that censoring and shutting down discussion, taking away methods, and creating script like paradigms of conversation around suicide will dissuade people from ctb, not realizing that some individuals have exhausted all options and just want to be heard.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. If I expressed my true thoughts in these other groups I mentioned, I would often be silenced and told that I needed to talk to "professionals" rather than trying to expend emotional labor from others. If you just wanted empathy and not guilt tripping to try some new diet, therapist, or supplement, people acted like you are being toxic and not trying to get better.

When we are actively ousted out of these so called accepting and supportive spaces, subsequently finding refuge in this site, it calls into question the narrative of "how evil sanctioned suicide is" as well as how supportive the other resources actually were in the first place. This site has been a safer place for me than anywhere else online.

 

[Miss_Takes]

I disagree with this.

I've used suicideforum and have been a member of at least 8 support groups or forums for chronic illnesses, disabilities, and ptsd. This is the only site I've ever been on where I can openly speak my mind about suicidal thoughts without being censored or banned.

Like OP said, this is probably one of the last communities out here that hasn't sanitised all discussion regarding suicide. The majority of online communities have strict rules about this topic and have continued to tighten them due to suicide spikes during lockdown.

I don't believe that the mods and users of the other sites purposefully want us to suffer, they think they are doing a noble thing by preaching 100% prevention. Which in some cases, ctb is preventable, but in others it may not be. They think that censoring and shutting down discussion, taking away methods, and creating script like paradigms of conversation around suicide will dissuade people from ctb, not realizing that some individuals have exhausted all options and just want to be heard.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. If I expressed my true thoughts in these other groups I mentioned, I would often be silenced and told that I needed to talk to "professionals" rather than trying to expend emotional labor from others. If you just wanted empathy and not guilt tripping to try some new diet, therapist, or supplement, people acted like you are being toxic and not trying to get better.

When we are actively ousted out of these so called accepting and supportive spaces, subsequently finding refuge in this site, it calls into question the narrative of "how evil sanctioned suicide is" as well as how supportive the other resources actually were in the first place. This site has been a safer place for me than anywhere else online.

Exceptionally well said, thank you.

Nope. That's paranoid black and white thinking.

And this isn't the "only space left", it's just the only space you know about. Black and white thinking again.

You are assuming a lot regarding the OP's individual and very personal experience of their world.
I may understand where you are coming from but I also may not ... because I am not you ... as simply as you are not the OP.
I always want to sign a critical post off with something nice or kind ... as it is never my intention to offend but like us all often 'difference', even if only of opinion, is offending... but ut always seems so condescending or trite and my mildly addled brain cant think of any appropriate much of the time.
Soooo ...

 

[WatermelonMel]

Nope. That's paranoid black and white thinking.

And this isn't the "only space left", it's just the only space you know about. Black and white thinking again.

Everywhere else is either censored or banned when it comes to topics about suicide, this is the only platform we have to express ourselves freely but if I am wrong then please do send me the link to other sites, I'd like to know about the existence of others.

 

[Silver]

Nope. That's paranoid black and white thinking.

And this isn't the "only space left", it's just the only space you know about. Black and white thinking again.

Before I found this website I was banned from both a suicide website chat page and a depression Telegram group for writing about suicide too openly. Even on the 'Suicideforum.com' website, mention of methods isn't allowed. Finding Sanctioned Suicide was a relief to me. I found like-minded people and I am not censored for mentioning suicide.