I don't think I'd like to go alone.

[Alnilam]

I'm so afraid of the unknown, what might greet me on the other side. I don't want to bear witness to it alone. If there is someone who seems trustworthy, whose sane, comfortable and truly dead set on ctb, we could vet each other by talking and vcing until we both feel comfortable enough to schedule a meet. I just don't want to go alone, I don't think I'd have the strength to go through with it. I thought my cat would make a sufficient companion, with the comfort of music and some of my favorite old cartoons as a backdrop. But now I know for certain it isn't enough, as she wont be able to cross over with me--she's a young, healthy cat and still has many years left in her. We truly understand nothing about our own existence, what could possibly be out there--the more we learn the more questions we have. I was looking at some artificial art today called Loab and I was deeply disturbed by the images. If an AI could create images like that, I wondered what if something like that already exists? And death is just a gateway. Think about it, suddenly we'll able to see, touch and hear what we couldn't before--if we do leave our bodies. I'm a strong believer of the paranormal, that there is more to life than humans could ever comprehend. Our existence could be an escape from something far worse than this world has to offer. I don't want to experience it alone. I know it sounds like an irrational fear, but it genuinely terrifies me to no end.

 

[actual_fox]

I am sorry, I won't help you with the main premise of your thread.

I am a huge woo woo enjoyer myself. You should try lucid dreaming or having OBE If you want to have a little taste of being in different reality. Most of those realities are your creation unless you are in a place that is like a collaborated consensus reality (like Robert Monroe described them) in which others co create the reality. If you feel scared you will manifest the scary thing outside of your body, and If you feel happy you will see happy things. But most people are scared as they die by suicide.
There are those NDEs of people who died for a moment If you would like to read them, but I do not want my afterlife to look like in those NDEs.

 

[jodes2]

I'm sorry you're scared about your beliefs of alternative realities, I hope you find someone

 

[Alnilam]

I am sorry, I won't help you with the main premise of your thread.

I am a huge woo woo enjoyer myself. You should try lucid dreaming or having OBE If you want to have a little taste of being in different reality. Most of those realities are your creation unless you are in a place that is like a collaborated consensus reality (like Robert Monroe described them) in which others co create the reality. If you feel scared you will manifest the scary thing outside of your body, and If you feel happy you will see happy things. But most people are scared as they die by suicide.
There are those NDEs of people who died for a moment If you would like to read them, but I do not want my afterlife to look like in those NDEs.

That's what scares me too. I know my own nightmares, I know what my mind is capable of. I've had a traumatic childhood and I still have memories that have manifested into horrible dreams. But I've also had good dreams, that have given me a strong sense of warmth, love, freedom and happiness. It's just the uncertainty that's eating away at me lately, I can't even enjoy my last month it's all I can think about. I figured if I die along someone else--the comfort of them being there will not only help me go through with it but cope with the unknown as well. If it is someone like me who could detach themselves from the moment and still make light of the situation--to help prevent that state of dread and panic. That, plus the reassurance of knowing that if we do encounter something horrible on the other side--at least we wont have to endure it alone.

 

[makethepainstop]

I am sorry, I won't help you with the main premise of your thread.

I am a huge woo woo enjoyer myself. You should try lucid dreaming or having OBE If you want to have a little taste of being in different reality. Most of those realities are your creation unless you are in a place that is like a collaborated consensus reality (like Robert Monroe described them) in which others co create the reality. If you feel scared you will manifest the scary thing outside of your body, and If you feel happy you will see happy things. But most people are scared as they die by suicide.
There are those NDEs of people who died for a moment If you would like to read them, but I do not want my afterlife to look like in those NDEs.

Well the time I died,(yes it was a suicide attempt psyc drugs od). I was in a place of light unlimited love, joy, peace......they sent a guy to send me back. They even picked a guy I'd like, blond hair blue eyes, muscles,and he was wearing no shirt sox or shoes. (I guess the knew what I like and want to be). I say again I did NOT want to come back here. So you see having been there, I'm not afraid of the afterlife.

 

[FuneralCry]

It must be hard to deal with having all of those fears. Nobody should have to die alone if that is what they want. I hope that you find what you are looking for.

 

[actual_fox]

That's what scares me too. I know my own nightmares, I know what my mind is capable of. I've had a traumatic childhood and I still have memories that have manifested into horrible dreams. But I've also had good dreams, that have given me a strong sense of warmth, love, freedom and happiness. It's just the uncertainty that's eating away at me lately, I can't even enjoy my last month it's all I can think about. I figured if I die along someone else--the comfort of them being there will not only help me go through with it but cope with the unknown as well. If it is someone like me who could detach themselves from the moment and still make light of the situation--to help prevent that state of dread and panic. That, plus the reassurance of knowing that if we do encounter something horrible on the other side--at least we wont have to endure it alone.

You want somebody to die with you? You will have to face death by yourself though. maybe you should try psychedelics- die before you die. It will be as scary as dying maybe, but You will live.

 

[Alnilam]

Well the time I died,(yes it was a suicide attempt psyc drugs od). I was in a place of light unlimited love, joy, peace......they sent a guy to send me back. They even picked a guy I'd like, blond hair blue eyes, muscles,and he was wearing no shirt sox or shoes. (I guess the knew what I like and want to be). I say again I did NOT want to come back here. So you see having been there, I'm not afraid of the afterlife.

; u; Well I'll admit that does sound like the dream, I wouldn't mind that at all. But it's just so strange--if the afterlife is nothing but love and joy, why do we have this experience on earth? If it truly is as above, so below shouldn't our experience in the afterlife persist here on earth as well? I'm just so confused. Why are we allowed to even exist in such a sorry state?

It's just so surreal. We had access to eternal peace this entire time? Yet are made to suffer here first..? Just, why?

 

[makethepainstop]

; u; Well I'll admit that does sound like the dream, I wouldn't mind that at all. But it's just so strange--if the afterlife is nothing but love and joy, why do we have this experience on earth? If it truly is as above, so below shouldn't our experience in the afterlife persist here on earth as well? I'm just so confused. Why are we allowed to even exist in such a sorry state?

It's just so surreal. We had access to eternal peace this entire time? Yet are made to suffer here first..? Just, why?

Karma, what we give out to others we must reincarnate to have what we gave returned to us. If you hurt others or help others it is what you reap in this or any other life. But I can say with certainty there is a plane beyond the physical.

 

[Alnilam]

You want somebody to die with you? You will have to face death by yourself though. maybe you should try psychedelics- die before you die. It will be as scary as dying maybe, but You will live.

I would love to! But I don't know how to access these things. I only have access to weed--but only because they sell it at the gas station.

 

[eldiablo666]

I would love to! But I don't know how to access these things. I only have access to weed--but only because they sell it at the gas station.

Dark Web

Humans are the only animal that knows it's gonna die. It's very unnatural in other words to think of death. It's overwhelming for most of us.

I think best way to beat SI would be to do it spontaneously. Still , it has its pros and cons .

 

[Alnilam]

Karma, what we give out to others we must reincarnate to have what we gave returned to us. If you hurt others or help others it is what you reap in this or any other life. But I can say with certainty there is a plane beyond the physical.

;; I've heard this theory before but it doesn't add up.. there are signs of sadism even in nature, in wildlife that wouldn't be able to comprehend things such as karma or morality. Wouldn't this logic only apply to the few species that can comprehend it..? And that also doesn't make sense for innocent people who suffer at the hands of bad people--or people who're simply unaware that they're hurting them. There are people who exist who're mentally incapable of showing emotion or empathy. Why create us with free will if you're only going to punish us when we exercise it? Plus, I've been deeply traumatized from the bad that was done to me--so why must I live with the aftermath if it's all meant to fall on the shoulders of someone who could care less?

 

[makethepainstop]

No karma is a tricky little imp.

;; I've heard this theory before but it doesn't add up.. there are signs of sadism even in nature, in wildlife that wouldn't be able to comprehend things such as karma or morality. Wouldn't this logic only apply to the few species that can comprehend it..? And that also doesn't make sense for innocent people who suffer at the hands of bad people--or people who're simply unaware that they're hurting them. There are people who exist who're mentally incapable of showing emotion or empathy. Why create us with free will if you're only going to punish us when we exercise it? Plus, I've been deeply traumatized from the bad that was done to me--so why must I live with the aftermath if it's all meant to fall on the shoulders of someone who could care less?

Animals relate to instinct, humans tend to have very complicated motives, actions, and feelings. Karma is like an algebra equation, the equation must be balanced. Do evil to others, and you can expect it back in your next life. Do good and have good returned to you. It is better than to be given one life and having one life sentence a soul to hell or heaven. You grow you way toward higher planes of life. So what looks to be a really hard life and unfair, is actually a soul reaping it's own rewards, good or bad. Much love to you seeker of higher knowledge.

 

[Alnilam]

No karma is a tricky little imp.

Animals relate to instinct, humans tend to have very complicated motives, actions, and feelings. Karma is like an algebra equation, the equation must be balanced. Do evil to others, and you can expect it back in your next life. Do good and have good returned to you. It is better than to be given one life and having one life sentence a soul to hell or heaven. You grow you way toward higher planes of life. So what looks to be a really hard life and unfair, is actually a soul reaping it's own rewards, good or bad. Much love to you seeker of higher knowledge.

I have some concerns regarding the fairness of such an equation. But I guess it's not really up to me to decide. Still, I wouldn't want to experience it alone, no matter the process or the reasoning for it.

 

[makethepainstop]

I have some concerns regarding the fairness of such an equation. But I guess it's not really up to me to decide. Still, I wouldn't want to experience it alone, no matter the process or the reasoning for it.

I can understand that. And I can appreciate having someone with you during your transition phase.

 

[Alnilam]

Dark Web

Humans are the only animal that knows it's gonna die. It's very unnatural in other words to think of death. It's overwhelming for most of us.

I think best way to beat SI would be to do it spontaneously. Still , it has its pros and cons .

I guess I'm a bit of a ''normie'' in the sense that I don't really know how to access the dark web. I get nervous and scared when thinking about stuff like that, you hear so much horrible things about the darkweb. That and having to fake an address--guarantee that what you're getting is actually legit and wont leave you with brain damage, just feels like too much trouble and too many risks.

 

[SamTam33]

I've only been on the site for less than a week but if anyone wants a partner, I'm your gal. I'm desperate for a failproof method. I cannot keep waking up.

One of my good friends randomly sent a pic of us 7 years ago and I looked happy.

She has no idea - none - that I'm suicidal. She said she was randomly charging an old camera and found the pics.

I stared into the eyes of the girl looking back at me and she feels like a stranger. Like someone I never knew.

I am so desperate. Been drinking for about 4 hours and about to pass out. But the fear of waking up keeps me putting it off.

That's one of the saddest things: being afraid of going to sleep because you don't want to experience waking up.

Nothing brings me peace. Not even sleep.

 

[Alnilam]

I've only been on the site for less than a week but if anyone wants a partner, I'm your gal. I'm desperate for a failproof method. I cannot keep waking up.

One of my good friends randomly sent a pic of us 7 years ago and I looked happy.

She has no idea - none - that I'm suicidal. She said she was randomly charging an old camera and found the pics.

I stared into the eyes of the girl looking back at me and she feels like a stranger. Like someone I never knew.

I am so desperate. Been drinking for about 4 hours and about to pass out. But the fear of waking up keeps me putting it off.

That's one of the saddest things: being afraid of going to sleep because you don't want to experience waking up.

Nothing brings me peace. Not even sleep.

I second this, if there's anyone out there willing to go, I'll be happy to go with you.
If we can all agree on a method that's painless and peaceful, I'm in.

 

[actual_fox]

The afterlife is mostly what you believe in so If you believe in hell or karma you might experience It. It is tricky tho because there are some figures like spirit guides who people see often- but I would not trust these entities If I ever saw them.

Getting hands on those stuff is trick and most often illegal and I do not want to advise something that could ruin your life If you were to be found with like magic mushrooms or LSD. The trickiness depends on where do you live and how much money you have and time.

 

[eldiablo666]

The afterlife is mostly what you believe in so If you believe in hell or karma you might experience It. It is tricky tho because there are some figures like spirit guides who people see often- but I would not trust these entities If I ever saw them.

Getting hands on those stuff is trick and most often illegal and I do not want to advise something that could ruin your life If you were to be found with like magic mushrooms or LSD. The trickiness depends on where do you live and how much money you have and time.

Don't talk like you know for certain what happens when we die. That's just blatant lies. Seriously, nobody knows.

 

[actual_fox]

That's just blatant lies.

Don't call me liar, you can tell me I am wrong- but that Is just too far. Besides you are going between 2 people who believe in "paranormal", what do you expect? Am I suppose to hide between "maybe", "who know". We are here having a polite discussion. I usually don't go to threads full of atheist and start talking openly about all of that paranormal stuff.

Interesting how people never tell that to people who believe in oblivion- their opinions are safe and they can feel safe in their opinions even tho they also "don't know".

 

[eldiablo666]

Don't call me liar, you can tell me I am wrong- but that Is just too far. Besides you are going between 2 people who believe in "paranormal", what do you expect? Am I suppose to hide between "maybe", "who know". We are here having a polite discussion. I usually don't go to threads full of atheist and start talking openly about all of that paranormal stuff.

Interesting how people never tell that to people who believe in oblivion- their opinions are safe and they can feel safe in their opinions even tho they also "don't know".

No.

You're lying. Nobody knows what happens after death. Period.

 

[actual_fox]

No.

You're lying. Nobody knows what happens after death. Period.

Well the time I died,(yes it was a suicide attempt psyc drugs od). I was in a place of light unlimited love, joy, peace......they sent a guy to send me back. They even picked a guy I'd like, blond hair blue eyes, muscles,and he was wearing no shirt sox or shoes. (I guess the knew what I like and want to be). I say again I did NOT want to come back here. So you see having been there, I'm not afraid of the afterlife.

Well he fucking does, go call him a liar. And there are others stories like his so go call him a liar or go away from this thread. We are here discussing our thoughts and experiences and If you just here to say that "nobody truly knows" then you just lazy and want to stay ignorant instead of discussing what is possible. You will die one day and don't tell me you are not curious.

 

[Suicidebydeath]

Nobody should have to die alone. I hope that you find peace. I hope that the afterlife is nothing like life.