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CalvinistReprobate

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This year is the year I finally lost my faith in Goodness, Justice, Beauty and Freedom......... I believe there's life immediately after death and for the miserable such as ourselves it's (going to be) misery. I've believed in the resurrection just like other monotheists for a few years now but that didn't stop me from being suicidal, I used to think I could kill myself and reduce the number of years I would have lived on Earth and just get a head start on the Eternal damnation I'm destined for....but now I believe this evil world leaves no stone unturned and that there's life immediately after death that precedes the bodily resurrection. This means if I did kill myself I wouldn't cut out a single moment of misery because in the immediate afterlife I would just carry on suffering until the resurrection and Eternal hell. I believe all this on somewhat empirical grounds, here are my reasons for this worst of outcomes where I'm trapped existing in misery........ • The Enlightenment was a failure, e.g the pessimism of Voltaire and the rise of skepticism and Atheism wasn't effective enough to get people to stop reproducing lambs (us) to the slaughter (the world), irrational ugly life triumphed over dispassionate nihilism (a historical metaphor for how life in all it's pain and misery will break out of death upon our deaths) • The Abolition of Slavery was a failure, e.g there are more slaves on Earth then there's ever been, Afro-Americans have been herded into prisons or warzone-like ghettos. (A metaphor for how even AFTER we know a way of life is wrong it persists or mutates into another enduring form, my own wretched life would survive abolition (suicide) by simply mutating into something else....a life of immaterial misery for example) • Human rights are next to worthless, e.g there are now too many (rights) so that the basics are undermined, and our very recent scamdemic has shown us just how fragile Human rights really are (they didn't exactly hold up to the totalitarian policies during covid) (This example goes with the idea of judgement day...if your so called Universal Human Rights didn't hold up during the outbreak of a coronavirus why would God not ride roughshod over those same Human rights?). Thank you all for reading this far, I hope this sparks a discussion.
 
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Forever Sleep

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I don't disagree with how shit life is and it definitely puzzles me why people choose to perpetuate it. Especially people living incredibly difficult lives themselves. Why do they think their children will prosper if their own lives have been so hard?

But, what about life on this earth makes you certain an afterlife will continue in the same vein? Of course, if there is a God, I imagine it well could! I'm just hoping there isn't one. What makes you so certain there is though? Either a God or an afterlife that goes on forever?
 
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CalvinistReprobate

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I don't disagree with how shit life is and it definitely puzzles me why people choose to perpetuate it. Especially people living incredibly difficult lives themselves. Why do they think their children will prosper if their own lives have been so hard?

But, what about life on this earth makes you certain an afterlife will continue in the same vein? Of course, if there is a God, I imagine it well could! I'm just hoping there isn't one. What makes you so certain there is though? Either a God or an afterlife that goes on forever?
I feel bombarded by questions, there's four here. I'll leave the first unanswered because it seems rhetorical. As for the second question, all I can say is probability, it seems more likely that the game is rigged for a significant sum of the world's population than that us wretches can or will catch up with the blessed majority who are content with life, I honestly feel allergic to everything and have a genuine appreciation for nothingness, even if the afterlife is "in a different vein" it will naturally have to contain sensation and I highly doubt i'd find a way there (afterlife) of finding contentment just as I never found a way (passively or actively) of manipulating all the sense data I'm flooded with now (on earth) into contentment. As to your third question.....I'm certain there is a God but I'm agnostic to his (technically "it's") nature or personality, I'm convinced by Aristotle and Aquinas' proofs of God's existence (I know I'm deflecting my answer on to these dead men but I'm trying to be brief). As to your fourth question, once again I can't be certain but again I think of probability, if my life is as bad as I think it is then there won't be the sweet relief of nothingness but instead it will probably persist for as long as possible and as long as possible is eternity........Final note: what I left out in my original post, Scripture with all it's archaic barbarism is a more accurate depiction of what the world is and always will be. Scripture defends slavery and bending the knee to oppressors while the so called enlightened and liberal teach otherwise and look what the world looks like now...slaves everywhere. Scripture tells of an afterlife while the enlightened and liberal teach otherwise, well my money's on the maniacs to be accurate but not morally right. God hates knowledge, forbidden fruit and all that, God hates enlightenment, Lucifer = the enlightened one. It's probability baby, y'all out here committing the gamblers fallacy wanting sweet release from an evil rigged game. House always wins. I hope you read my reply to your reply which I really appreciate. Thanks again, I hope others will jump on in into this discussion.
 
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