I decided to starve.

[Flau]

So in short... Recently I wanted to die more than ever, I suppose.
Plenty of things happened but I'm not going to number them now otherwise this topic will turn into an angst book.
I saw myself in the mirror in a very ugly form. A couple of days ago.
Decided to step on a weight scale and understood that I'm 96,5kg. Even tho my body looks like 75-80 or something
Stretch marks all over the body, double chin, fat sides and legs. Cannot even fit anything.

So I gave up on eating at all. I don't get to usually eat in my family anyway. Once a day would be great but sometimes I get nothing. Yet still with my disfunctioned thyroid and metabolism I collect every bite into fat. I genuinely tried to exercise, numbers of diets and even medication. Nothing ever helped. Even my "tries" lasted for years. My entire body was in holes from syringes and... pills. 23 pills a day to get my health in a normal state at least.

I got tired of myself. I get bullied every god damn day. People give me looks.

So I just decided to attempt a water diet. To starve for 15 days at least and just drink water. I heard people lost their weight in these days really dramatically.

From 13 jan 2020 I officially told myself I'm going to do this.
Today is 15th pf jan. 6pm. Im going back home and it's the 3rd day of me living without food.
So far I'm 95,3kg right now.

I would really appreciate your support because for me, a person who doesn't get to eat often for like 3-4 years already (and when I get I just eat junk. Potatoes, macaroni, all that heavy but cheap food that makes me fat)

I will keep this topic in check. So you guys can see my results and help me to go through this.

If I will eventually die from it... not a big deal. At least I will die being beautiful, rather than live a live in a disgusting fat body. Just my opinion tho. I don't have a fat fobia, I'm not a fat hater when it comes to others, but it bothers my body personally, so yeah. Good luck to me.

 

[CynicalHopelessness]

Well, the more appropriate term is "fasting". Starving usually means you do it to punish or kill yourself.

I have done water fasting for a week, it is quite cool, and on your third day you should be reaching a point where your body switches to metabolizing existing fat (and muscle, so I'd suggest a tiny bit of exercise at least) so you should be starting to feel less hungry.

Drinking tea and coffee also counts, if it's without milk or sugar. Milk-less coffee is rough, but I got used to it.

The hardest part for me is that I'm used to eating just to lighten my mood a bit, and it's usually literally junk (pizzas, McDonald's stuff, etc.). If the low point happens on 3rd day, for example, I'll probably fail.

Still, you do lose weight quite fast, and your eating habits get reset a little bit, so you might be able to develop a bit healthier diet afterwards.

Good luck, and stay strong

 

[Hopeindeath!]

Congratulations on fasting for 3 days. I hope you are able to lose the weight you want to.

 

[Thereisnothing]

So in short... Recently I wanted to die more than ever, I suppose.
Plenty of things happened but I'm not going to number them now otherwise this topic will turn into an angst book.
I saw myself in the mirror in a very ugly form. A couple of days ago.
Decided to step on a weight scale and understood that I'm 96,5kg. Even tho my body looks like 75-80 or something
Stretch marks all over the body, double chin, fat sides and legs. Cannot even fit anything.

So I gave up on eating at all. I don't get to usually eat in my family anyway. Once a day would be great but sometimes I get nothing. Yet still with my disfunctioned thyroid and metabolism I collect every bite into fat. I genuinely tried to exercise, numbers of diets and even medication. Nothing ever helped. Even my "tries" lasted for years. My entire body was in holes from syringes and... pills. 23 pills a day to get my health in a normal state at least.

I got tired of myself. I get bullied every god damn day. People give me looks.

So I just decided to attempt a water diet. To starve for 15 days at least and just drink water. I heard people lost their weight in these days really dramatically.

From 13 jan 2020 I officially told myself I'm going to do this.
Today is 15th pf jan. 6pm. Im going back home and it's the 3rd day of me living without food.
So far I'm 95,3kg right now.

I would really appreciate your support because for me, a person who doesn't get to eat often for like 3-4 years already (and when I get I just eat junk. Potatoes, macaroni, all that heavy but cheap food that makes me fat)

I will keep this topic in check. So you guys can see my results and help me to go through this.

If I will eventually die from it... not a big deal. At least I will die being beautiful, rather than live a live in a disgusting fat body. Just my opinion tho. I don't have a fat fobia, I'm not a fat hater when it comes to others, but it bothers my body personally, so yeah. Good luck to me.

Firstly a from me cos sounds like you need one. I have often thought a water diet/fasting whatever you wish to call it would be a good way to go, but having tried it, it was far from nice believe me. I have many health problems and on alot of medication and it made VERY ill. I note you have thyroid problems, so please do be careful. Its often the case that people lose weight quickly in first few days and then it plateau's, but what is being lost in muscle mass which in turn makes you very weak after a long spell and then effects organs and all sorts of things. That sounds good in theory, but not, as the pain is hideous and how you feel its horrendous. Its interesting that you dont see weight a problem in others but just yourself. I have always been big, not so much now as I was, due to my deteriorating health, but would you have told me I had a disgusting fat body. We as a society are very false and sterile, it doesn't matter how large or small or what features we have, because its the person inside us that matters. Who we are as people. I have known some very 'beautiful and handsome' people over the years and they have not been very nice people, some have been but others not, just same as with all people we are all different and for a reason.
I have lost most of my hair due to illness, but it doesn't make me ugly, if other people think it does then thats their opinion and I dont care about their opinion if they are going to be nasty like that. It wouldn't matter to a nice person, no more than they would worry if I was big or small.
Do feel free to talk to us here and share more how you are feeling, there is no need to suffer alone and please look after yourself, you think you are not worth it and I can understand why you may not like yourself, but as far as I am concerned you ARE, so take if from me at least one person already knows you are worth it, and I wont be the only one on here believe you me.

 

[Skathon]

I would suggest to also consume salt and sugar every 24-48 hours to avoid hyponatremia and hypoglycemia.

 

[Flau]

I would suggest to also consume salt and sugar every 24-48 hours to avoid hyponatremia and hypoglycemia.

I will take this advice. Thank you!

 

[Roro90]

You should loose weight in a healthy way
it will take time but it's going to be worth it
im not an expert but start doing a lot of sports to loose weight so your skin wont get loose and eat healthy food that don't contain carbs or fat
maybe you should go to nutrition specialist and sport coach if you need to
im sure you will be supper pretty once you loose weight

 

[CynicalHopelessness]

@Skathon wouldn't consuming sugar stop ketogenesis, reducing the weight loss and prolonging food cravings?

 

[MysticPerception]

Good luck. I knew a few people who took up fasting and they always said they felt way better overall after they started doing it. Hope it helps you out too and you start to feel better about your body and appearance.

 

[Skathon]

wouldn't consuming sugar stop ketogenesis, reducing the weight loss and prolonging food cravings?

It is preferable to a hypoglycemic coma or other complications.
>"As blood glucose levels fall below 10 mg/dL (0.55 mM), most neurons become electrically silent and nonfunctional, resulting in coma."

 

[CynicalHopelessness]

@Skaton, you're supposed to be getting glucose from ketone bodies when fasting, that's the point. If you have low sugar before ketogenesis, you'd feel having it low (weakness, brain fog as if you're about to faint) but you are supposed to feel alright after ketogenesis started (which is about 3-5 days in), so if you do, sugar has a risk of making everything worse.

It's really important to focus on how you feel, and slowly quit fasting when hunger comes back, and of course ideally maybe consult a doctor.

 

[Skathon]

@CynicalHopelessness
Ah... I meant after a few days (though, diabetes or bleeding would make it slightly more dangerous).

 

[justwhy?]

Water fasting is a bad idea. While fasting does seem to induce the death of old, poorly functioning cells and repair of the rest, it somewhat paradoxically also does cause greater oxidative stress.

Eating some healthy fats and non starchy vegetables is a really good idea. The fats help induce ketosis and the veg will provide anti oxidants. Salads with seeds are ideal. If you have a blender and dislike chomping for 40 minutes at a time then smoothies are the best way to consume them. Depending on how much fat you're eating it might only be around 200kcals. It would also keep your gut bacteria alive and optimise it which water fasting won't.

Even if it's just a couple of carrots a day, it's silly not to eat something. You need anti oxidants. Even with the rejuvenating effects of fasting your immune system will be seriously compromised without them and you'll be vulnerable to illness.

 

[purplemoon]

You're not alone, are used to weigh between 95 to 110 pounds at the most all of my teenage and adult life, until the last couple of years where I suddenly started gaining weight and I have no idea why. I got very very sick from both mercury poisoning back in early 2017 And also being under bizarre sky grid crisscross chemtrails when I was outside for an hour and a half that horrible day and have not been the same ever since.

Getting weight changes so much, it's not just uncomfortable physically 24 hours a day, then more than half of the human population looks at you like you're just so awful and they don't wanna be around you, hire you, nothing. I can understand if they don't want to date or have intimate relations with someone that's very overweight, fine. But if there's no physical intimacy, and you're a nice person, I don't see what difference it makes. When I was extremely skinny I actually went out of my way to be nicer to overweight people because I felt sorry for them and one of them to feel welcomed and accepted for who they were. I've spent my entire life literally only going by what someone is on the inside and their behavior towards me and others. Not their looks, not their clothing, not with a drive, nothing but what's on the inside. Even when I was eight years old I remember this poor kid that had a genetic disease from his father were very obese and he told me I was his only friend in the entire school. So my point is, it's not like it was karma or something. I don't believe in karma, if that were true then why would babies got assaulted? Etc.

Please excuse me digressing there, my point is it's not your fault that people are cruel to you because of being fat or chubby, it's their fault for being heartless superficial jerks. But the main problem is that they're more than half of the population basically and so discrimination has a real life affect on people that are overweight whether it's fair or not. I will say that the pro Ana or anorexic ABC diet did wonders previously and I'm going back on it again even though I'm going to catch the bus in the near future.

Do you know though however, if you just start but keep drinking water, it could take 6 months to a year to actually catch the bus. It's only when someone combines no food AND no water at all they can be, at least supposedly, 12 days or less.

Just a brief share, LOL with rambling, to try to help those who may not have been aware of the ABC diet or catching the bus via starvation and dehydration.

I still don't understand why animals and humans can get so fat when our own body is betraying us, it's really stupid. I've gotten really frustrated with my body like why aren't you listening to me? You're ruining our life by getting fat. Anyway, just thought I would chime in and let you all know you're not alone with these awful fat problems.

Carrots are good for dieting by the way I've lost a few pounds just eating carrots and water.

 

[Alec]

Stay strong, whatever way you will decide to keep going with this - remember it's ok, you are ok and stay strong! I love you and I'm with you!

 

[Flau]

So a little update.
Today is 16th of January, 6pm.
I woke up a couple of hours ago and... took my weight scale. I felt really bad that yesterday I decided to drink some kefir (thick nutritious drink made from fermented milk) that was mixed with some lacto-bifidobactrerias and all that. I felt like my stomach was rekt after I took my medication while it was empty.
So... it was my sin. I stepped on a scale and saw... 96,3. I was about to scream. I mean dude, really. From a one cup I get a kilogram back?
I decided to check again. And... here we are. They are fixed. 94,6kg. Checked again, same number.
I'm glad that it didn't count as a plus to my weight this time. Maybe I was just lucky. Usually I can get over a kilogram (that will be permanent) when I eat something like potatoes or something sweet.

So far... -2.2kg. :3

 

[Hopeindeath!]

Good for you! I'm glad to know you lost 2.2kg. Weight fluctuates throughout the day so, it might be better just to weigh yourself in the morning
before you eat or drink anything.

 

[purplemoon]

You're not alone, are used to weigh between 95 to 110 pounds at the most all of my teenage and adult life, until the last couple of years where I suddenly started gaining weight and I have no idea why. I got very very sick from both mercury poisoning back in early 2017 And also being under bizarre sky grid crisscross chemtrails when I was outside for an hour and a half that horrible day and have not been the same ever since.

Getting weight changes so much, it's not just uncomfortable physically 24 hours a day, then more than half of the human population looks at you like you're just so awful and they don't wanna be around you, hire you, nothing. I can understand if they don't want to date or have intimate relations with someone that's very overweight, fine. But if there's no physical intimacy, and you're a nice person, I don't see what difference it makes. When I was extremely skinny I actually went out of my way to be nicer to overweight people because I felt sorry for them and one of them to feel welcomed and accepted for who they were. I've spent my entire life literally only going by what someone is on the inside and their behavior towards me and others. Not their looks, not their clothing, not with a drive, nothing but what's on the inside. Even when I was eight years old I remember this poor kid that had a genetic disease from his father were very obese and he told me I was his only friend in the entire school. So my point is, it's not like it was karma or something. I don't believe in karma, if that were true then why would babies got assaulted? Etc.

Please excuse me digressing there, my point is it's not your fault that people are cruel to you because of being fat or chubby, it's their fault for being heartless superficial jerks. But the main problem is that they're more than half of the population basically and so discrimination has a real life affect on people that are overweight whether it's fair or not. I will say that the pro Ana or anorexic ABC diet did wonders previously and I'm going back on it again even though I'm going to catch the bus in the near future.

Do you know though however, if you just start but keep drinking water, it could take 6 months to a year to actually catch the bus. It's only when someone combines no food AND no water at all they can be, at least supposedly, 12 days or less.

Just a brief share, LOL with rambling, to try to help those who may not have been aware of the ABC diet or catching the bus via starvation and dehydration.

I still don't understand why animals and humans can get so fat when our own body is betraying us, it's really stupid. I've gotten really frustrated with my body like why aren't you listening to me? You're ruining our life by getting fat. Anyway, just thought I would chime in and let you all know you're not alone with these awful fat problems.

Carrots are good for dieting by the way I've lost a few pounds just eating carrots and water.

Well, I just read this a day later; I was half asleep using microphone dictation, please excuse the typos. Lol

 

[mathieu]

If you find you can't stick to a complete fast maybe try meal replacement shakes. I lost 20kg on those. I was also taking phentermine.

 

[ArtsyDrawer]

If you find you can't stick to a complete fast maybe try meal replacement shakes. I lost 20kg on those. I was also taking phentermine.

To add an IMPORTANT note if you try nourishment shakes: do not, under any circumstances, even if god himself shows up in your kitchen and demands so, throw bread into a blender.
Two things will happen: your product will turn sandy. Also, your blender will turn sandy. It took me two goddamn weeks to take the bread out.
OK, so I'm dealing with depression and shit ableds cannot comprehend. Let's try to scale it down (up?) to abled numbers: I guesstimate it'd take about three days to get the bread out of the mechanical bits. Got me pondering to work even MORE extra hours to just save up for a new blender.
Bread+blender=nono.

 

[a.n.kirillov]

Fasting can def be a healthy way to lose weight BUT that only applies to people without an eating disorder. Also be aware that fasting could definitely aggravate any psychological symptoms you already experience and educate yourself on how to correctly break the fast, i.e. how to reintroduce food.

Personally I haven't been able to sustain it longer than for two days straight; my emotions get very intense (that's one definite thing on my bucket list though; who knows what's on the other side of this mental breakdown at day two? maybe some sort of spiritual cleansing)

 

[Flau]

So... I don't know.
Little update I guess?

I'm feeling really depressed recently. I just want nothing. And yet... I decided to go to the gym.
I visited it once a couple of days ago and I worked out for 7 hours straight. My body feels weak right now, everything hurts but... it's a good thing I guess. I will keep going there and who knows... maybe like that I will lose some weight?...
If not... well. I will just continue hating the shell I'm living in and destroying this disgusting body. Maybe eventually killing myself.

 

[SettOne1994]

I would suggest to also consume salt and sugar every 24-48 hours to avoid hyponatremia and hypoglycemia.

ok salt but doesnt the body changes fat and then muscles to glucose(sugar) until the very end?

 

[CynicalHopelessness]

ok salt but doesnt the body changes fat and then muscles to glucose(sugar) until the very end?

According to my understanding, it's supposed to (sans "and then", it will be burning both). If you've made it to day 4, you're pretty much set, but it's possible that your liver doesn't switch to fat-burning fast enough, and you'll be at risk of hypoglycemia if that happens. Having some tiny amounts of sugar while you're using fat will switch energy source back to consumed carbohydrates, defeating the purpose of fasting. Which is why I suggested not doing this.

I'm feeling really depressed recently. I just want nothing. And yet... I decided to go to the gym.

Good for you, gym can boost your mood a bit, though you'd probably need dietary changes too if you want to lose weight reasonably quickly. Do you have somebody to keep you company? Having promised a friend to go together helped me tremendously to not quit too early.

 

[SettOne1994]

According to my understanding, it's supposed to (sans "and then", it will be burning both). If you've made it to day 4, you're pretty much set, but it's possible that your liver doesn't switch to fat-burning fast enough, and you'll be at risk of hypoglycemia if that happens. Having some tiny amounts of sugar while you're using fat will switch energy source back to consumed carbohydrates, defeating the purpose of fasting. Which is why I suggested not doing this.


Good for you, gym can boost your mood a bit, though you'd probably need dietary changes too if you want to lose weight reasonably quickly. Do you have somebody to keep you company? Having promised a friend to go together helped me tremendously to not quit too early.

i went for fasting for 7 days max i never risked hypoglicemia....there must be for that to happen maybe underlying problem where body cant turn the fat or muscles to sugar or some other medical condition? i dont know. ALso i had in mind fasting as suicide not loosing weight :D but im sure you need some pure salt so your nervous system doesnt go nuts and you start hallucinating . If you go extreme. Sugar maybe is a problem if your body cant convert other things from your organism to sugar.

 

[CynicalHopelessness]

i went for fasting for 7 days max i never risked hypoglicemia....there must be for that to happen maybe underlying problem where body cant turn the fat or muscles to sugar or some other medical condition?

I'm currently on day 2 of my 4th attempt. I had successful 7 days, 5 days, and one failed - I felt extremely weak on 3rd morning, close to fainting, so I went for a bun and ended it prematurely. Not sure what the difference was - maybe I was already low on sugar, too depressed and/or didn't exercise enough, or something else entirely. Never did it to CTB though, it's just much simpler conceptually than any other diet - no counting required, and I can't cook to save my life so that's not a problem either.

 

[SettOne1994]

I'm currently on day 2 of my 4th attempt. I had successful 7 days, 5 days, and one failed - I felt extremely weak on 3rd morning, close to fainting, so I went for a bun and ended it prematurely. Not sure what the difference was - maybe I was already low on sugar, too depressed and/or didn't exercise enough, or something else entirely. Never did it to CTB though, it's just much simpler conceptually than any other diet - no counting required, and I can't cook to save my life so that's not a problem either.

My experience was painful. At the 7th day my arms legs was hurting a lot thats why i decided to stop it. Fainting and fatigue is common for so many days but i didnt mind that. But the pain was unbearable i couldnt continue. Either cbt or not fasting requires a good mental state. What you dont supply with nutrients i think you must supply emotionaly or spiritualy lets say. Either delusional people or people with a sufficient reasons will achieve cbt through fasting. There is a religion something like hinduism they believe in stopping reincarnation here by fasting to death. And they achieve it. Ive seen from old people to a 13 year old here on the internet. Its called Jain religion
PS: i went to far forgot you are doing it for other reason than cbt

 

[Otter]

intermittent fasting is supposedly healthy for you, or so they say. I wouldn't know. but I would definitely research how to do it properly. it's possible to mess up your metabolism and make it where once you start eating again everything turns to fat because your body thinks it is still in Starvation mode. Ketogenic diet seemed to work pretty well but they require protein and healthy fats which may not be available to you, and very little carbohydrates which is what is in potatoes and macaroni and cheese, the things you normally eat. just do lots of research and you'll learn ways to successfully trim down. best wishes!