Venting I could give less of a fuck that it will bring “grief” to my loved ones

[sourcreamonion]

Suicide is NOT selfish. I'm tired of that BS excuse that I'm going to cause eternal sadness and the whole world will be crying at my grave, and my teacher from third grade will give a speech about how great I was as a third grader.

It's so fucking stupid. No one should have to force themselves to live through this hellhole.

I understand grief, but the concept that suicide is selfish should not be a valid argument.

 

[antinatalist123]

I kind of think the same, but when I really started doing it, my emotions took over and I chickened out. Next time I'm going to think about all the bad stuff I might have forgotten and do it quickly.

 

[Dark Spring]

I always found it selfish for people to force you to settle for a shitty life so that others don't suffer and to play with one's psyche. Because I do want to die and obviously I don't want the people I love to suffer, but I don't know if I have the capacity to improve my life at all

 

[sourcreamonion]

I always found it selfish for people to force you to settle for a shitty life so that others don't suffer and to play with one's psyche. Because I do want to die and obviously I don't want the people I love to suffer, but I don't know if I have the capacity to improve my life at all

Exactly. Like it's obvious people are going to grieve, there is no surprise there, I don't want the people around me to be sad. But the way I think of it is like: further down the line if you try to keep up with a façade so it seems like you're improving on the outside, but you'll slowly get worse. I think as a family member you wouldn't want to see someone prolong these damaging effects.

 

[Stick]

This exactly. It's just what needs to be done.

further down the line if you try to keep up with a façade so it seems like you're improving on the outside, but you'll slowly get worse. I think as a family member you wouldn't want to see someone prolong these damaging effects.

Exactly, it's the lesser of two evils.

 

[262653]

I understand grief, but the concept that suicide is selfish should not be a valid argument.

I think that any argument that works both ways is an argument that doesn't favor either of sides. Of course, that doesn't mean that such argument can't be effective, which probably has something to do with the fact that humans aren't fully rational beings, and aren't always aware of the shaming tactic being used against them.

Also, selfish is normal and natural. Conflicts of interest happen, and both sides do what they can to secure personal interests, to become a winner of conflict. With trade, force, deception, blackmail, black magic or whatever instrument at hand.

 

[dontwantocareanymore]

... and my teacher from third grade will give a speech about how great I was as a third grader.

This part made me laugh. Thank you, even if it wasn't intended! Laughs are hard for me to come by anymore.
& I agree. While it's natural to grieve, humans feel an authority over other people's lives when they, themselves, have the choice to do with their lives what they will & yet, we're not trying to force them to live through hell.

 

[I screwed up]

You r right Op.. Fuck the world .. They don't care for us , y do we care for them .. Fuck them all ... I wanna leave this shit hole of mine

 

[Mr2005]

There's a disturbing number of members here because they lost someone to suicide. I wonder what they have to say about it

 

[SipSop]

Why you should suffer for them?

 

[UterEntonaur]

I understand grief, but the concept that suicide is selfish should not be a valid argument.

I totally agree with this.

None of us gave consent or expressed a desire to enter into this world. Yet once we're here, we're expected to fend for ourselves and make our own choices (and live with them), but we're not allowed to choose whether we continue or not? That doesn't make sense to me....

 

[262653]

I totally agree with this.

None of us gave consent or expressed a desire to enter into this world. Yet once we're here, we're expected to fend for ourselves and make our own choices (and live with them), but we're not allowed to choose whether we continue or not? That doesn't make sense to me....

I think it would make some sense from the perspective of the parents who are wired to spread their gene empire.

 

[Deathbydemo]

The concept that suicide is selfish is NOT a valid argument, because it's subjective to ones opinion. You can't simply say one thing and expect it to be automatically true and valid because it's what you believe. In my opinion, suicide is not selfish at all but rather the opposite: someone taking their decision to live or not into their own hands requires (imo, at least) bravery and strength beyond someone's else comprehension.

I completely agree with your post. Fuck the world and fuck this notion that we HAVE to live this existence just because we're here. Fuck it all.

 

[Futile]

You're completely right, my body my choice

 

[PointlessStruggle]

If I died it would just get posted about on instagram by virtue signalers who pretend to care about mental health probably. I'm mainly scared to sui since it condemns you to hell in my religion and I imagine thats even worse than my life now. My family is very harsh on suicidal people so I imagine they'd probably just be disappointed mainly if i roped

 

[Wayfaerer]

Well said. I do feel bad for those who weren't responsible for my misery but those who were, I'm fresh out of hecks to give.

 

[muffin222]

I agree. Suicide is definitely not selfish. That line of thinking helps no one- it only amplifies the suicidal person's distress most of the time. We're all selfish as human beings and we all do things that harm other people. That's an inevitable part of being an interconnected species. It's selfish to force people to live against their will just because it would hurt others to see them go

 

[maybepossiblyithink]

The only thing I'm worried about if I ctb is my parents having to pay. No matter what option I choose, they'll have to pay. I don't want to put my parents through money troubles again.

 

[rt1989526]

The only thing I'm worried about if I ctb is my parents having to pay. No matter what option I choose, they'll have to pay. I don't want to put my parents through money troubles again.

What would they have to pay for? You mean a funeral?

I'm going to request cremation/no funeral to avoid that nonsense

 

[maybepossiblyithink]

What would they have to pay for? You mean a funeral?

I'm going to request cremation/no funeral to avoid that nonsense

Cremation and a funeral w/o a viewing is still a few thousands sadly.
It's definitely a lot cheaper, but after my brothers funeral we were dirt poor for a while. Now even just 1,000 feels like so much. I'm not worth that kind of stress.

 

[Buffy5120]

You're completely right, my body my choice

How did abortion get legalized? Maybe there needs to be movies to show people how hard it is to suffer with all of our diseases then maybe they will make assisted suicide legal, kind like how social media/twitter is it shows what going on then people can understand more

If I died it would just get posted about on instagram by virtue signalers who pretend to care about mental health probably. I'm mainly scared to sui since it condemns you to hell in my religion and I imagine thats even worse than my life now. My family is very harsh on suicidal people so I imagine they'd probably just be disappointed mainly if i roped

You wont go to hell bro

Suicide is NOT selfish. I'm tired of that BS excuse that I'm going to cause eternal sadness and the whole world will be crying at my grave, and my teacher from third grade will give a speech about how great I was as a third grader.

It's so fucking stupid. No one should have to force themselves to live through this hellhole.

I understand grief, but the concept that suicide is selfish should not be a valid argument.

I think the only reason why most of us are still here is only because of a failed attempt/getting worse...i could give a fuck how anyone feels especially my family

 

[rt1989526]

Cremation and a funeral w/o a viewing is still a few thousands sadly.
It's definitely a lot cheaper, but after my brothers funeral we were dirt poor for a while. Now even just 1,000 feels like so much. I'm not worth that kind of stress.

Ah that sucks, I hear you. What a world we live in where you are handed a bill even on the fucking way out. Fuck this shithole

 

[deadgirlahsatan]

I agree. I have no loved ones except my cat. No human would give a fuck. Even if i had loved ones they shouldn't expect me to live in this shit world.No one should ever expect someone to live a life full of misery.

 

[peacechoice]

If I died it would just get posted about on instagram by virtue signalers who pretend to care about mental health probably. I'm mainly scared to sui since it condemns you to hell in my religion and I imagine thats even worse than my life now. My family is very harsh on suicidal people so I imagine they'd probably just be disappointed mainly if i roped

If there is a god I'm sure he is all merciful and won't send you to hell. That is what I truly believe. I also think that the notion of hell is made up by the ones in power to enslave the one in the lower classes. Without anything to hold them back (consequences) they wouldn't be in this crappy existence. Also, the notion that there is eternal salvation is also fucking stupid.its probably meant to keep people suffering because they think there is a reward for all that suffering.