Venting Hypocrites and liars !!!

[tiaralamb]

I truly do not believe any of those journalists care, not a single one. They just want brownie points for their 'investigative exposè' and the shock value driven "spooky website is killing young people !1!!1!!" clicks from worried parents and teachers who probably also believe TikTok is grooming their children into the CCP.

SS has been an open 'internet secret' for years now. Get over it. It's a resource like any other, and no, people do not actively encourage or worsen the symptoms of others. Recovery is always on the table. Ffs look at any 'I'm about to ctb' thread. Reply after reply of 'Are you sure? Are you sure? Ok, but please be certain you're sure.'

Face it. Everyone who is gone now left because of their shitty circumstances and lack of support, and the 'communities' they had irl probably failed them and forced them into that position in the first place.

We live in a world where aside from a lucky few it is mandatory that you:

Are able to handle daily social interaction, including navigating complex social norms and implicit signals
Consistently overcome repeated loads of stress
Have impeccable timekeeping and time management
Be constantly aware of what's real and what isn't
Have no off-putting or 'weird' characteristics whatsoever
Be dependable and friendly, even when going through incredibly painful circumstances
Continuously contribute to the upkeep of your personal health, hygiene and living space
Are not in anyway susceptible to states of being such as hyper-fixation which can 'distract from your priorities'
Have a specific learning style suited for most education systems
Have no issues with impulse control or decision making

This is only a small snippet. There is so much that the world demands of mentally ill and neurodivergent people that we are simply not capable of due to the condition we are in. Treatment is so productivity driven, more focused on turning an afflicted person into a good worker/societal contributor than someone actually contented.

Anybody who blames RESOURCES for suicide is a hypocrite and a liar. I simply do not care to dance around it anymore. The big issue staring you right in your face is that as it stands, many people forced to live in this world are incompatible with it. That's just the truth. And until that changes you can continue to act shocked when people choose to say 'fuck it' and stop trying to fit a round peg in a square hole, but trying to find an easy excuse like you're pinning the tail on the donkey is not going to work this time.
Perhaps instead of talking to generic mental health expert no.7282738 you could try interviewing someone who actually uses the site next time. Just a thought.

 

[banger12]

I agree with this post and what youre saying needs to be said. We all need to say it. They need to understand (probably already do and just refuse to admit it) that very few people contemplate or commit suicide lightly, and often only come to a place like this only after thinking about it separate from any resource that wouldn't immediately condemn the action. This website doesn't cause anything. These journalists and youtubers know that. Member of SaSu encourage nothing, it would tale less than five minutes on the website to understand that and they could spend weeks or months worth of time digging around here too without finding any encouragement that was welcomed on the platform. But these journalists and youtubers with their crocodile tears and their fake, petty moralism are sensationalists at best. They know what they're saying is false and dishonest, they're deliberate liars, and any good, ethical person should condemn their efforts to demonize this website. They're scum and should be called what they are.

 

[SVEN]

These folk just don't seem to realise (or choose to realise) the big difference between support and encouragement. Whilst anyone posting that they are exercising their own choice to ctb will certainly receive support in their decision, no one is encouraging them to end it all. There's even a section to help anyone choosing to keep going, and I've certainly nothing but respect and good wishes for those who decide to give life another go.

 

[Lookingtoflyfree]

Your list is SO true. It makes me feel like people with autism in particular are set up to fail and are hated by society. We are seen as broken toys and annoying needy little things. I have no doubt that if neurotypical people were given the power they would press a button that would eradicate us off the face of the earth.

If anything CTB is our escape from their world. It's our salvation.

 

[skylight7]

I truly do not believe any of those journalists care, not a single one. They just want brownie points for their 'investigative exposè' and the shock value driven "spooky website is killing young people !1!!1!!" clicks from worried parents and teachers who probably also believe TikTok is grooming their children into the CCP.

SS has been an open 'internet secret' for years now. Get over it. It's a resource like any other, and no, people do not actively encourage or worsen the symptoms of others. Recovery is always on the table. Ffs look at any 'I'm about to ctb' thread. Reply after reply of 'Are you sure? Are you sure? Ok, but please be certain you're sure.'

Face it. Everyone who is gone now left because of their shitty circumstances and lack of support, and the 'communities' they had irl probably failed them and forced them into that position in the first place.

We live in a world where aside from a lucky few it is mandatory that you:

Are able to handle daily social interaction, including navigating complex social norms and implicit signals
Consistently overcome repeated loads of stress
Have impeccable timekeeping and time management
Be constantly aware of what's real and what isn't
Have no off-putting or 'weird' characteristics whatsoever
Be dependable and friendly, even when going through incredibly painful circumstances
Continuously contribute to the upkeep of your personal health, hygiene and living space
Are not in anyway susceptible to states of being such as hyper-fixation which can 'distract from your priorities'
Have a specific learning style suited for most education systems
Have no issues with impulse control or decision making

This is only a small snippet. There is so much that the world demands of mentally ill and neurodivergent people that we are simply not capable of due to the condition we are in. Treatment is so productivity driven, more focused on turning an afflicted person into a good worker/societal contributor than someone actually contented.

Anybody who blames RESOURCES for suicide is a hypocrite and a liar. I simply do not care to dance around it anymore. The big issue staring you right in your face is that as it stands, many people forced to live in this world are incompatible with it. That's just the truth. And until that changes you can continue to act shocked when people choose to say 'fuck it' and stop trying to fit a round peg in a square hole, but trying to find an easy excuse like you're pinning the tail on the donkey is not going to work this time.
Perhaps instead of talking to generic mental health expert no.7282738 you could try interviewing someone who actually uses the site next time. Just a thought.

Perfectly said. I couldn't have said it better. So, thank you for writing this.

 

[uglyugly]

Agree 100%! Very well said!

No journalist gives a darn, they are just here to make a name for themselves and get clicks/reads. Such is journalism in general. As others have said, no one here, at least that I can tell, takes to topic of ending their life casually. The decision is deeply personal and I'm betting nearly everyone on here has done every. last. thing. they can to improve their lives before realizing that suicide may be the only way out of suffering. I don't want to hear any psychobabble, nonsense, platitudes or any thing else from any "expert" or well-wisher on how beautiful life can be. Bull!

I did not wake up one day and decide to off myself. Instead, after YEARS of careful consideration and trying every thing I can to improve my life and situation, I have come to the conclusion that ending my life is the only way out of suffering. There is NOTHING else left to try, and while I have not been an angel on this planet, I have not done anything to deserve to be in this kind of pain. None of us have.