Method Hydrogen Sulfide/"Detergent" Method advice

[Bartzabel666]

If I commit suicide I think I'm going to go the Hydrogen Sulfide route. Know it's not a very common method but I want something that'll be both a clean and relatively quick and painless way to go. I was thinking set up a tent out somewhere, tape up the ventilation with duct tape, and mix toilet cleaner containing hydrogen chloride and lime sulfur together in a metal pot to create the toxic H2S gas. I was thinking 32 oz Zep Acidic Toilet Bowl Cleaner (10% hcl) and 16 oz Revival Animal Health Vet Basics Lime Sulfur Dip (Sulfurated Lime Solution 97.8%) both of which I could purchase through Amazon no-problemo. Think that should do it? Any other tips regarding this method?

 

[picklemick]

I'd love to go by H2S. Have unlimited access to 70% H2S gas at work. Dont want to traumatize coworkers and make the news and all that though. Also dangerous for rescuers.​

But only advice would be make sure rescuers know what they are doing when youre found. Im not sure what the home brew ppm's get up to. but if you get gassed bad rescuers can die even from off gas from your clothing. Its nasty stuff. Just a wiff of low concentration gives you a headache and makes you want to puke.

 

[ghqkiiia2]

Even when you mix the right coupons , it will take 4-6 mins to reach the 1,000ppm(knocked down), you might suffers from chemical burns, eye and breath system damage before the mixture is as high a a knocked down( one breath and you lost conciseness. So if you wan to avoid those pain, mix the stuff, leaving the site, come back after 6mins?

 

[picklemick]

Even when you mix the right coupons, it will take 4-6 mins to reach the 1,000ppm(knocked down), you might suffers from chemical burns, eye and breath system damage before the mixture is as high a a knocked down( one breath and you lost conciseness. So if you wan to avoid those pain, mix the stuff, leaving the site, come back after 6mins?

yeah I didn't think ppms would be very high. ive been hit with 200+ parts and its nasty. could get 900,000ppm if I wanted but its dangerous to rescuers etc

yeah I didn't think ppms would be very high. ive been hit with 200+ parts and its nasty. could get 900,000ppm if I wanted but its dangerous to rescuers etc

still most importantly make sure its obvious whoever finds you knows not to go in without supplied air. for most people unlike us, life is wonderful. dont bring them down too

 

[ghqkiiia2]

yeah I didn't think ppms would be very high. ive been hit with 200+ parts and its nasty. could get 900,000ppm if I wanted but its dangerous to rescuers etc

200+ppm could be fatal- but as we all agreed, going for 1000+ppm(or higher) for the knock down is the path least painful.
I wouldn't want to sit around for 4-6 minutes for the mixtures to reach 1000+ppm, too painful. Most who tried this method and failed suffered in this phase. I am sure you can find lots of post about this issue.

still most importantly make sure its obvious whoever finds you knows not to go in without supplied air. for most people unlike us, life is wonderful. dont bring them down too

Yes, sorry I forgot to emphasize this, always leave a sign, put the sign in a zip bag in case it absorb the water vapor produced in the chemical reaction.

If I commit suicide I think I'm going to go the Hydrogen Sulfide route. Know it's not a very common method but I want something that'll be both a clean and relatively quick and painless way to go. I was thinking set up a tent out somewhere,

In this case, maybe try this tricky invented by Japanese after 2011 or 2012: Buy a super big plastic in advanced. Put everything in your tent, post the warning signs on the outside, then put yourself in the big plastic bag, push out some air then seal the bag. Go into the tent,then you seal the tent from inside, mix all the chemicals in the bucket, wait for 4-6 minutes. By then, the air in the tent will be containing more than 1000 ppm H2S. Think twice, if you still dicide to carry out this operation, hold your breath, unseal the bag you are in it. Take a good deep breath, the ppm of H2S would lead to a knock down, means your lost your consciousness in a single breath. After that, unless a person with mask found you in half a hour, the outcome is certain.

tape up the ventilation with duct tape, and mix toilet cleaner containing hydrogen chloride and lime sulfur together in a metal pot to create the toxic H2S gas. I was thinking 32 oz Zep Acidic Toilet Bowl Cleaner (10% hcl) and 16 oz Revival Animal Health Vet Basics Lime Sulfur Dip (Sulfurated Lime Solution 97.8%) both of which I could purchase through Amazon no-problemo. Think that should do it? Any other tips regarding this method?

I think you got the right material?

 

[Bartzabel666]

200+ppm could be fatal- but as we all agreed, going for 1000+ppm(or higher) for the knock down is the path least painful.
I wouldn't want to sit around for 4-6 minutes for the mixtures to reach 1000+ppm, too painful. Most who tried this method and failed suffered in this phase. I am sure you can find lots of post about this issue.


Yes, sorry I forgot to emphasize this, always leave a sign, put the sign in a zip bag in case it absorb the water vapor produced in the chemical reaction.

In this case, maybe try this tricky invented by Japanese after 2011 or 2012: Buy a super big plastic in advanced. Put everything in your tent, post the warning signs on the outside, then put yourself in the big plastic bag, push out some air then seal the bag. Go into the tent,then you seal the tent from inside, mix all the chemicals in the bucket, wait for 4-6 minutes. By then, the air in the tent will be containing more than 1000 ppm H2S. Think twice, if you still dicide to carry out this operation, hold your breath, unseal the bag you are in it. Take a good deep breath, the ppm of H2S would lead to a knock down, means your lost your consciousness in a single breath. After that, unless a person with mask found you in half a hour, the outcome is certain.


I think you got the right material?

That or I was thinking lay down and put a blanket over top of me but I doubt that'd work nearly as well as sealing myself in a large plastic bag, so yeah, I might see if I can't find a plastic bag large enough to fit in. And yes, I would definitely put a warning sign on the outside of the tent.

 

[Medicmedic72]

This is highly dangerous for first responders. You need to label the area you are in with multiple obvious signs.

They want to go home at the end of their shift.

 

[picklemick]

I want to go this way so bad, 900,000 ppm to the face but I dont want to hurt others

 

[Bartzabel666]

This is highly dangerous for first responders. You need to label the area you are in with multiple obvious signs.

They want to go home at the end of their shift.

Yeah I was thinking I'd buy this one 24" x 18" OSHA warning sign that says "Notice Enter At Your Own Risk Toxic Gas" putting that on the front of the tent and then taping a note to it that says "Hydrogen Sulfide!!! DO NOT Enter Without Proper Personal Protective Equipment!!!" (or "Carbon Monoxide!!!" if I decide to go the charcoal grill method instead since that's another option I'm considering.)

 

[William01]

Yeah I was thinking I'd buy this one 24" x 18" OSHA warning sign that says "Notice Enter At Your Own Risk Toxic Gas" putting that on the front of the tent and then taping a note to it that says "Hydrogen Sulfide!!! DO NOT Enter Without Proper Personal Protective Equipment!!!" (or "Carbon Monoxide!!!" if I decide to go the charcoal grill method instead since that's another option I'm considering.)

Snapped. I'm curious is this mixture u identified enough of a mixture? I'm no good at measurements and PPM thing...

 

[Bartzabel666]

Snapped. I'm curious is this mixture u identified enough of a mixture? I'm no good at measurements and PPM thing...

You mean Zep Acidic Toilet Bowl Cleaner + Revival Animal Health Vet Basics Lime Sulfur Dip? I can't say for certain cause I'm no expert but I reckon it should be enough. Read a story of a 21 year old Japanese guy who offed himself using 610HAP (liquid bath essence containing 20-25% Calcium Polysulfides) and Sunpole (toilet cleaner containing 9.5% Hydrochloric Acid). Zep is 10% hcl and the Revival Animal Health Lime Sulfur Dip is 97.8% Sulfurated Lime so I don't see why it shouldn't work just as well if not better than the mixture that Japanese guy used.

 

[hellispink]

This was my first method before I decided for something else. I bought three of each in order to create the ppm that was needed. I am unaware of how long it takes for it to reach it. I read somewhere that the more bottles, the better. However, you need to investigate more into it to make sure its accurate. I am considering going back to this method too.

 

[annique]

how quickly would it kill a person? if it isn't so quick, i bet one can stand the odor of H2S for too long (would probably quit)

 

[Bartzabel666]

how quickly would it kill a person? if it isn't so quick, i bet one can stand the odor of H2S for too long (would probably quit)

It can kill very quickly and painlessly or it can be very slow and painful all depending on the ppm (parts per million) of the H2S gas. I've had others recommend mixing the chemicals, sealing myself in a plastic bag, and waiting 4-6 minutes and by then the inside of the tent should be over 1000 ppm (knock down effect) before removing the bag and breathing it all in.

 

[ghqkiiia2]

how quickly would it kill a person? if it isn't so quick, i bet one can stand the odor of H2S for too long (would probably quit)

Depends on the ppm. While 320+ppm would be fatal, the least painful option, as Bartzabel666 mentioned above, is 1000+ppm for knock down effect- means you lost consciousness after one breath. The reason is that once ppm of H2S rise above 50+ ppm, it will hurt your eyes, throat, nose, skin, etc. And the mixture could cause chemical burns when not carefully handled. It would take 4-6 mins for the mixture to take chemical reactions, so sitting around means you might experience the extreme unpleasant side affects mentioned above, hence the big plastic bag approach. Also the bag could protect you, in case you have second thought after you mixed the stuff.

You mean Zep Acidic Toilet Bowl Cleaner + Revival Animal Health Vet Basics Lime Sulfur Dip? I can't say for certain cause I'm no expert but I reckon it should be enough. Read a story of a 21 year old Japanese guy who offed himself using 610HAP (liquid bath essence containing 20-25% Calcium Polysulfides) and Sunpole (toilet cleaner containing 9.5% Hydrochloric Acid). Zep is 10% hcl and the Revival Animal Health Lime Sulfur Dip is 97.8% Sulfurated Lime so I don't see why it shouldn't work just as well if not better than the mixture that Japanese guy used.

Snapped. I'm curious is this mixture u identified enough of a mixture? I'm no good at measurements and PPM thing...

You can check this paper
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18516944/
I quote: "According to these results, if the cabin volume is assumed to be 3,300 L, mixing 120 ml of each liquid produces a lethal level of hydrogen sulfide, i.e., 1,000 ppm. "
So one liter (about 0.264 gallon) of each for a space of 3,300 liter is enough.
And don't forget warning signs for first responders!

 

[Bartzabel666]

This was my first method before I decided for something else. I bought three of each in order to create the ppm that was needed. I am unaware of how long it takes for it to reach it. I read somewhere that the more bottles, the better. However, you need to investigate more into it to make sure its accurate. I am considering going back to this method too.

I was originally thinking of buying 1 of each but I'm now considering 2 of the lime sulfur dip just for added certainty. That'd be 32 oz of toilet cleaner and 32 oz of lime sulfur dip which should be more than enough to fill a 2 person tent with 1000 ppm of H2S gas.

Depends on the ppm. While 320+ppm would be fatal, the least painful option, as Bartzabel666 mentioned above, is 1000+ppm for knock down effect- means you lost consciousness after one breath. The reason is that once ppm of H2S rise above 50+ ppm, it will hurt your eyes, throat, nose, skin, etc. And the mixture could cause chemical burns when not carefully handled. It would take 4-6 mins for the mixture to take chemical reactions, so sitting around means you might experience the extreme unpleasant side affects mentioned above, hence the big plastic bag approach. Also the bag could protect you, in case you have second thought after you mixed the stuff.


You can check this paper
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18516944/
I quote: "According to these results, if the cabin volume is assumed to be 3,300 L, mixing 120 ml of each liquid produces a lethal level of hydrogen sulfide, i.e., 1,000 ppm. "
So one liter (about 0.264 gallon) of each for a space of 3,300 liter is enough.
And don't forget warning signs for first responders!

My plan has become more detailed and I have a new post and a poll for it set for 12 noon if you wanna check it out. I won't lay it all out rn cause it'd be too long winded but I'm now thinking of buying a gas mask, pair of respirators for the mask (which DO protect against H2S gas. I checked.), and safety goggles all to protect against chemical burns and premature system damage while mixing the ingredients along with a pair of safety gloves I already have. Also intend to buy a 2 gallon metal bucket, 50x 100 gallon trash bags, duct tape, and a sleeping bag. Seal up all the ventilation in the tent with as many of the trash bags as I feel is necessary and duct tape, pour 1 32 oz bottle of toilet cleaner into the bucket followed by 2 16 oz bottles of lime sulfur dip (I was originally thinking just 1 but now I think I'm probably gonna go w/ 2 just for added certainty), set the alarm on my phone for 4-6 minutes, curl up into the sleeping bag w/ all my protective gear still on and then sealing it, after those 4-6 minutes are up unseal the sleeping bag, take off the gas mask, take 1 big deep breath and hopefully that'll be the end of it.

 

[Bartzabel666]

Depends on the ppm. While 320+ppm would be fatal, the least painful option, as Bartzabel666 mentioned above, is 1000+ppm for knock down effect- means you lost consciousness after one breath. The reason is that once ppm of H2S rise above 50+ ppm, it will hurt your eyes, throat, nose, skin, etc. And the mixture could cause chemical burns when not carefully handled. It would take 4-6 mins for the mixture to take chemical reactions, so sitting around means you might experience the extreme unpleasant side affects mentioned above, hence the big plastic bag approach. Also the bag could protect you, in case you have second thought after you mixed the stuff.


You can check this paper
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18516944/
I quote: "According to these results, if the cabin volume is assumed to be 3,300 L, mixing 120 ml of each liquid produces a lethal level of hydrogen sulfide, i.e., 1,000 ppm. "
So one liter (about 0.264 gallon) of each for a space of 3,300 liter is enough.
And don't forget warning signs for first responders!

Scratch that. Postponed it till 2 o' clock just so I could do more editing.

 

[color_me_gone]

Also intend to buy a 2 gallon metal

Do not use a metal vessel for the reaction.
The reaction will include the metal from the vessel, which will affect the resulting ppm.
It will also eat through the walls of the vessel, possibly dispersing the solution before all is consumed.
I recommend a glass vessel.

I don't recommend using this method.
It has a high failure rate, and failure is extremely painful at the least, debilitating at the worst.
There are many other methods which have a higher success rate, and lower consequences if failure occurs.

If you are intent in using this method, the Japanese procedure seems to have the best success, follow it VERY closely.
Wishing you the best in whatever you choose to do.

 

[Bartzabel666]

Do not use a metal vessel for the reaction.
The reaction will include the metal from the vessel, which will affect the resulting ppm.
It will also eat through the walls of the vessel, possibly dispersing the solution before all is consumed.
I recommend a glass vessel.

I don't recommend using this method.
It has a high failure rate, and failure is extremely painful at the least, debilitating at the worst.
There are many other methods which have a higher success rate, and lower consequences if failure occurs.

If you are intent in using this method, the Japanese procedure seems to have the best success, follow it VERY closely.
Wishing you the best in whatever you choose to do.

No metal pot? Thank you for letting me know that. I did not know it would interfere in any way. I will look around for appropriate glassware instead.

Depends on the ppm. While 320+ppm would be fatal, the least painful option, as Bartzabel666 mentioned above, is 1000+ppm for knock down effect- means you lost consciousness after one breath. The reason is that once ppm of H2S rise above 50+ ppm, it will hurt your eyes, throat, nose, skin, etc. And the mixture could cause chemical burns when not carefully handled. It would take 4-6 mins for the mixture to take chemical reactions, so sitting around means you might experience the extreme unpleasant side affects mentioned above, hence the big plastic bag approach. Also the bag could protect you, in case you have second thought after you mixed the stuff.


You can check this paper
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18516944/
I quote: "According to these results, if the cabin volume is assumed to be 3,300 L, mixing 120 ml of each liquid produces a lethal level of hydrogen sulfide, i.e., 1,000 ppm. "
So one liter (about 0.264 gallon) of each for a space of 3,300 liter is enough.
And don't forget warning signs for first responders!

*3 pm. Also looks like I'll be using a glass fish bowl now instead of a metal pot if I go through with it.

Do not use a metal vessel for the reaction.
The reaction will include the metal from the vessel, which will affect the resulting ppm.
It will also eat through the walls of the vessel, possibly dispersing the solution before all is consumed.
I recommend a glass vessel.

I don't recommend using this method.
It has a high failure rate, and failure is extremely painful at the least, debilitating at the worst.
There are many other methods which have a higher success rate, and lower consequences if failure occurs.

If you are intent in using this method, the Japanese procedure seems to have the best success, follow it VERY closely.
Wishing you the best in whatever you choose to do.

What method would you recommend? Any other method of chemical suicide? Or is chemical suicide in general just not that great of an idea? I've researched into Toilet Cleaner + Lime Sulfur (Hydrogen Sulfide), Acid + Cyanide (Hydrogen Cyanide, unfortunately Cyanide is very difficult to obtain), Charcoal Burning (Carbon Monoxide), Ammonia + Bleach (Chloramine), Vinegar + Bleach (Chlorine Gas), Rubbing Alcohol + Bleach (Chloroform), and Sodium Nitrate/Sodium Nitrite (injested/taken orally) (Are Sodium Nitrate and Sodium Nitrite essentially the same thing or is one more toxic than the other?)

 

[color_me_gone]

What method would you recommend?

Of the ones you mentioned, Sodium Nitrite (SN) is the most reliable, most peaceful, and most forgiving in case of failure.
It is most popular method on SS, with tons of information. See Stan's guide for SN. (Stan is verified successful).
As with any method taken by mouth, SN requires requires antiemetic pills be taken beforehand, following a timing sequence.
Antiemetics (AE) suppress your body's natural instinct to purge (vomit) anything poisonous you may ingest.
Most failures with this method are due to vomiting, either no AE used, or failure to follow AE specific regimen, or AE not strong enough.
The strongest AE's are prescription only, but still have source's on the web. The OTC AE's work for some, but not all.
Everybody who fails here, returns with no ill effects.
Sodium Nitrate will not kill you. It would take an enormous amount to be effective.
H2S, HCN, NH2Cl and Cl2 gases damage tissue on contact. Failure to ctb leaves severe damage behind.
SN does not damage tissue directly, rather it prevents the blood from properly absorbing oxygen to deliver to tissue.
Methylene Blue is a powerful antidote. It has allowed full recovery in all but the most severe (prolonged) cases.

Carbon-monoxide (CO) is also a popular method here.
It is more problematic than SN, and failure comes with some risks for long term damage.
If using, follow the method carefully.

I don't know anything about chloroform.

 

[Bartzabel666]

Of the ones you mentioned, Sodium Nitrite (SN) is the most reliable, most peaceful, and most forgiving in case of failure.
It is most popular method on SS, with tons of information. See Stan's guide for SN. (Stan is verified successful).
As with any method taken by mouth, SN requires requires antiemetic pills be taken beforehand, following a timing sequence.
Antiemetics (AE) suppress your body's natural instinct to purge (vomit) anything poisonous you may ingest.
Most failures with this method are due to vomiting, either no AE used, or failure to follow AE specific regimen, or AE not strong enough.
The strongest AE's are prescription only, but still have source's on the web. The OTC AE's work for some, but not all.
Everybody who fails here, returns with no ill effects.
Sodium Nitrate will not kill you. It would take an enormous amount to be effective.
H2S, HCN, NH2Cl and Cl2 gases damage tissue on contact. Failure to ctb leaves severe damage behind.
SN does not damage tissue directly, rather it prevents the blood from properly absorbing oxygen to deliver to tissue.
Methylene Blue is a powerful antidote. It has allowed full recovery in all but the most severe (prolonged) cases.

Carbon-monoxide (CO) is also a popular method here.
It is more problematic than SN, and failure comes with some risks for long term damage.
If using, follow the method carefully.

I don't know anything about chloroform.

Alrighty then. I'll do more research into the SN method w/ Carbon-monoxide as a potential back up method in case that were to fail. I have a poll set up for 12 noon tomorrow regarding best method of chemical suicide in case you wanna check that out.

 

[rakesh483]

I am also consider this method