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JoJo4673

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May 25, 2019
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You have no idea how many times I've come to people for help only to get lifeless, soulless, and hollow responses like "Everything gets better" and "I'm sorry." No you aren't. Nobody is. Everybody only says that because it makes them feel like they're being a good person. Because society deems suicide as a bad thing. Everyone would rather be accepted by society by providing meaningless insincerity as a formality rather than actually help someone end their pain.
 
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jgm63

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Oct 28, 2019
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Just going to offer my personal opinion on this....

I understand your frustration, however, when criticising others you always have to be certain that you yourself might not also be capable of the same actions under certain situations.... Nobody is perfect, and people have limited time and energy. Some people are simply too busy trying to get on with their own lives to be able to help. Sometimes that's just the way it goes. We can't necessarily have expectations of others....
If you weren't going through the things you are going through now, then perhaps you wouldn't be so ready to listen to others.
But then again, perhaps you would....
You may be a better person than most....
Everyone is at a certain stage of their spiritual evolution....
In a previous incarnation you too might have been an ignorant person...

It is, however, a wonderful thing when we encounter someone who really does seem to care, and goes the extra mile. Those people can be rare, but they are very precious....

Anyhow, just trying to offer you some perspectives you might wish to consider.....
 
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Sweet emotion

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Sep 14, 2019
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I don't think that it's being selfish, not helping someone end their pain. I mean they could go to jail. I wouldn't do that. I don't think it's selfish. The first person you look out for in life is yourself because everyone wants to have the best life possible. Don't get me wrong there are many many selfish people in this world. I just don't think someone is selfish for not helping someone kill themselves. If they could do anything for you, what would you want them to do?
 
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almaranthine

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Nov 28, 2019
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When a lot of people utter those platitudes, they are merely echoing what they, deep down, must tell themselves. If it wasn't just this blank formality for them, then they would actually have to examine their own doubts and feelings which they wish to distance themselves from. Being able to, tight smiling, tell you that "everything gets better" is easier than debating that statement within themselves. They are happy to exalt themselves as the contented advisor when in reality, they are far from being so.
 
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awfullife

Arcanist
Nov 16, 2019
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The ultimate mind fu*k of being highly codependent empath is that you draw false peace and contentment from helping others. That's what fills you up. It's actually very selfish in fact. Problems arise when you get to the end and you can't even provide for yourself let alone others. This makes the highly codependent empath want to CTB as there is no way out.
 
imstillhungry

imstillhungry

Student
Nov 19, 2019
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You have no idea how many times I've come to people for help only to get lifeless, soulless, and hollow responses like "Everything gets better" and "I'm sorry." No you aren't. Nobody is. Everybody only says that because it makes them feel like they're being a good person. Because society deems suicide as a bad thing. Everyone would rather be accepted by society by providing meaningless insincerity as a formality rather than actually help someone end their pain.

At least they reply. My 'friends' just leave me on read...
 
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BridgeJumper

The Arsonist
Apr 7, 2019
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I dont agree that not helping someone commit suicide is selfish - I, for one, could never assist in someones death. Not because its illegal, because my strong emotions would overcome me and make me unable to do anything.
I do agree however that its selfish to just throw 'It will get better' or 'Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem' in my face and call it a day instead of taking the trouble to genuinely try to help. Unfortunately most people dont know any better.
 
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c824767

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Sep 2, 2019
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You have no idea how many times I've come to people for help only to get lifeless, soulless, and hollow responses like "Everything gets better" and "I'm sorry." No you aren't. Nobody is. Everybody only says that because it makes them feel like they're being a good person. Because society deems suicide as a bad thing. Everyone would rather be accepted by society by providing meaningless insincerity as a formality rather than actually help someone end their pain.
No there are us people who accept suicide as a valid choice, and people who admit that the world is not a good place right now. And that it is normal to want to leave this dissatisfactory existence.
 

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