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HenryHobkins

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Title basically, what would you say or do if they showed up? Would you just close the door or are you obligated to go with them?
 
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I was just wondering about this, thank you for asking. I hope someone can respond.
 
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The same way I would react whenever police are involved. Yes sir, no sir, be calm, cool, and collected, do not provide any information outside of exactly what they ask.
 
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Politely explain to them that they're wasting their time and resources sending multiple officers to check on welfare during a time of austerity and cuts.
 
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BeansOfRequirement

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How would you react if the police showed up for a welfare check?
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Bootleg Astolfo

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I made sure to keep my Felix Argyle bodypillow right in view the entire time i talked to them for maximum ''what the fuck is my life'' effect on the police.
 
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Title basically, what would you say or do if they showed up? Would you just close the door or are you obligated to go with them?
It depends on what basis they have for asking- is it because someone hasn't seen you for a while- then you can show them that you're ok. Is it because they heard a lot of noise that maybe sounded like fighting- I'm pretty sure you would have to let them in. It would depend on what the reason for the welfare check would be. If someone hasn't seen children in a while you would probably have to show them that the children are ok. If you wanted to share the reasons that they might stop by for this then e could probably give a better answer. If they check on a home and it is really messy and children aren't clean or well fed then you would probably have to go with them. It really depends on the reason that they are checking.
 
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Thank God we have none of that where I live. If you don't open the door, they will still come another day, open your mailbox and call your name. That's very common specially in the UK. Debt collectors are the worse, they even use body cameras.
 
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Wish I were in the US where suicide by cop is easier, I'd just spazz out enough for them to shoot me. No such luck in Canada.
 
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Someone123

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Thank God we have none of that where I live. If you don't open the door, they will still come another day, open your mailbox and call your name. That's very common specially in the UK. Debt collectors are the worse, they even use body cameras.
Sometimes welfare checks are important, though. In the case of the Turpin family the parents were starving and torturing their children daily for years and a welfare check is how they were rescued. I think probably in your country as well if a starving child escaped and called the police and told them about the beatings and torture in the house they would check it out there, too - so that is maybe the best known case where a welfare check did a lot of good. That's the worst case. If the welfare check is because a person was reported to possibly be suicidal, which is likely the case here, it gets more complicated. If it was reported that a person has a gun and has threatened to commit suicide today they would probably go in. It would just vary depending on the reasons given for the welfare check.
 
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GentleJerk

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Dec 14, 2021
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It's often not a good idea to talk to the police. Avoid it if possible.

I'd be courteous but if they have no search warrant, I wouldn't let them in. It's easy enough, just say "sorry I'm not comfortable letting you in." Why not? Because I have anxiety about letting strangers into my home.

You have to give them your name where I'm from but that's it. Don't go with them unless they have an arrest warrant. If they ask about my "welfare" I'd say I'm fine and not in any danger. Any other questions- "sorry, I don't know".

They're not your friends.
 
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I like cops. They're pigs.
 
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Dragon's Heart

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Dec 14, 2021
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I once had the police show up once when my phone wasn't working and the car was dead and there wasn't any cell phone service there. Mom couldn't reach me so all she knew to do was call about a welfare check. They didn't stay long at all, once they saw I was alive they just left without any offer of assistance. I have mixed feelings about that.
It depends on what basis they have for asking- is it because someone hasn't seen you for a while- then you can show them that you're ok. Is it because they heard a lot of noise that maybe sounded like fighting- I'm pretty sure you would have to let them in. It would depend on what the reason for the welfare check would be. If someone hasn't seen children in a while you would probably have to show them that the children are ok. If you wanted to share the reasons that they might stop by for this then e could probably give a better answer. If they check on a home and it is really messy and children aren't clean or well fed then you would probably have to go with them. It really depends on the reason that they are checking.
It just doesn't seem like police business, to me, this is more in the area of social services. Many times, police seem to make things worse.
 
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Sometimes welfare checks are important, though. In the case of the Turpin family the parents were starving and torturing their children daily for years and a welfare check is how they were rescued. I think probably in your country as well if a starving child escaped and called the police and told them about the beatings and torture in the house they would check it out there, too - so that is maybe the best known case where a welfare check did a lot of good. That's the worst case. If the welfare check is because a person was reported to possibly be suicidal, which is likely the case here, it gets more complicated. If it was reported that a person has a gun and has threatened to commit suicide today they would probably go in. It would just vary depending on the reasons given for the welfare check.
Oh my that's so sad,poor children yes in my country there's child protection just a different name I guess, there's a documentary on Netflix about parents who cheated welfare gave the little boy cat litter to eat and ended up dead beaten by his stepdad all because he thought he was gay. It's a very deep documentary. It's called the trials of Gabriel Fernandez. I cried my eyes out. If you are sensible dont watch it. That sweet boy endured tortured for years, slept in a cabinet with a lock. Teachers called child protection all the time, they did little and were trialed as well. Mum got life without parole, dad was meant to be death penalty, changed also for life without parole, in my personal opinion that's the best outcome. Specially in the jail he is at, saint Quentin. Even that name scares me.
 
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Trattkantarellen198

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You don't have to let them in in Sweden, where I live. :) But then again, we don't have those checkups for this sort of thing, I believe!
 
stevieu

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Police often exacerbate problems and they also seem to get off on it too. A bit of excitement, if you will.

It's ridiculous that in the UK, they'll often be the first thing people will have to deal with if they're in a crisis. They do love to virtue signal though and no doubt go home after their shift and pat themselves on the back for not being 'one of the mental ones' and for shoving someone in a cell because they're struggling with life - a good job done in their eyes. Tick that box. Next!

The whole 'system' is broken though.
 
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Maaizr

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Aug 2, 2021
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suicide by cop, very simple i fucking hate cops & would love to get into a shootout
 
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Someone123

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I once had the police show up once when my phone wasn't working and the car was dead and there wasn't any cell phone service there. Mom couldn't reach me so all she knew to do was call about a welfare check. They didn't stay long at all, once they saw I was alive they just left without any offer of assistance. I have mixed feelings about that.

It just doesn't seem like police business, to me, this is more in the area of social services. Many times, police seem to make things worse.
In this case the father had a gun and if they sent in a social worker they could have been killed- a lot of social workers get killed as it is because they are put in the middle of volatile family situations. So the police are the right resource for this. Following this I will post the link to the rescue of the Turpin children, which was captured on police body cam- there are good cops and bad cops, and these cops handled this very well.
 
Depressed Cat

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The police in my country don't know what a welfare check is. The concept simply does not exist here.
 
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Someone123

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suicide by cop, very simple i fucking hate cops & would love to get into a shootout
The key problem with this is that often in cases of attempted suicide by cop a person gets wounded and disarmed and then gets a long prison sentence for attempted murder of a cop, and prison will not make anyone's life better.
 
Maaizr

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Aug 2, 2021
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The key problem with this is that often in cases of attempted suicide by cop a person gets wounded and disarmed and then gets a long prison sentence for attempted murder of a cop, and prison will not make anyone's life better.
i am aware of this, trust they'll want me dead if i drop a few first 💤🔫 i'll shoot to kill, just like them
 
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i am aware of this, trust they'll want me dead if i drop a few first 💤🔫 i'll shoot to kill, just like them
That is a lot easier said than done when they train for this constantly and have bullet proof vests and lot of training on firearms- it's very high risk that you'll end up in prison in my opinion if you try this.
 
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Rational man

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Police often exacerbate problems and they also seem to get off on it too. A bit of excitement, if you will.

It's ridiculous that in the UK, they'll often be the first thing people will have to deal with if they're in a crisis. They do love to virtue signal though and no doubt go home after their shift and pat themselves on the back for not being 'one of the mental ones' and for shoving someone in a cell because they're struggling with life - a good job done in their eyes. Tick that box. Next!

The whole 'system' is broken though.
it would be ironic. The police can't even deal with London knife crimes. I would like to think they are focusing on th real criminals out there. After the medical s failures that have left me on deaths door, it would be strange if the police asked me why i wanted to die🐱🐱😗
 
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The police in my country don't know what a welfare check is. The concept simply does not exist here.
If it was reported to the police that a person made threats to their neighbors while carryinng a gun and then they went into the house, what would they do? What if a neighbor reported seeing a small straving child being beaten in the yard and brought into the house would they do anything?
 
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Interloper

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If it was reported to the police that a person made threats to their neighbors while carryinng a gun and then they went into the house, what would they do? What if a neighbor reported seeing a small straving child being beaten in the yard and brought into the house would they do anything?

Over here they would need a warrant, unless they themselves saw the threat/child being beaten. They can of course always ring your doorbell and ask you stuff but they can't just come in.
 
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If it was reported to the police that a person made threats to their neighbors while carryinng a gun and then they went into the house, what would they do? What if a neighbor reported seeing a small straving child being beaten in the yard and brought into the house would they do anything?
I live in a Third World hellhole where the police are quite, if not very corrupt. So things here don't work as you'd imagine.

In the first case, they may or may not turn up depending on various factors. In the second case, they most probably won't.
 
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EliphasBlackwood

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Nov 27, 2021
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I guess you could do the ol' suicide by cop if your from the US but no such luck where I live. I wouldn't resist if they asked for me to go with them, that would just make things so much worse. Just go with them and hope you won't be locked up for too long.
 
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Maaizr

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Aug 2, 2021
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That is a lot easier said than done when they train for this constantly and have bullet proof vests and lot of training on firearms- it's very high risk that you'll end up in prison in my opinion if you try this.

yee i get it bro, im aware its high risk im aware of prison time like no shit life is void regardless dont send no fuckin 🚓 to my door its that easy 🤷🏽 you seem to overestimate the ability of law enforcement, especially if you live here in the US like i do lmao theyre not that good, i know this from experience
 
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yee i get it bro, im aware its high risk im aware of prison time like no shit life is void regardless dont send no fuckin 🚓 to my door its that easy 🤷🏽 you seem to overestimate the ability of law enforcement, especially if you live here in the US like i do lmao theyre not that good, i know this from experience
I really think it varies a lot by the city or town a person is in; i mean there are so many places a person can get shot that will drop them without killing them that it just seems really high risk.
 
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