I am very frustrated. My partners keep backing out. Even the most seemingly zealous and eager to die keep changing their minds. Is anyone really serious? I just want to die and am looking to weed out confused people who are still torn between life and death. How do you tell if someone is honest and really intends to go through with a suicide pact?
No.
It seems like the type of people who would post ads for suicide partners would be the type who would be serious about ctb.
It seems like the type of people who would post ads for suicide partners would be the type who would be serious about ctb.
Stan
Factoid Hunter
- Aug 29, 2019
- 2,589
personally these pacts are bad news. too many problems and if you are going to end your life with someone, a classified advert on a board like this opens you up to so many potential problems
I am starting to realize this. But the people seem so serious. Since I know my intentions and I am serious, I take people who say they want to die seriously. It appears 90 percent are not really serious. Am I a rare case?
A classified ad on a board like this can't cause me problems after I'm dead. Lol. If only serious people would post it would work fine.
A classified ad on a board like this can't cause me problems after I'm dead. Lol. If only serious people would post it would work fine.
SinisterKid
Visionary
- Jun 1, 2019
- 2,113
Mental ill health, ideation, suicide, they all come and go like waves. Today I have been fine, tomorrow morning I could wake up and feel suicidal again, its the nature of the monkey on my back. It fluctuates with me constantly and I have read plenty of others saying similar/same. So people can make posts in that thread with good intentions at the time, but things change and suddenly it does not seem such a good idea.
Stan
Factoid Hunter
- Aug 29, 2019
- 2,589
I am not in a good place tonight so I won't pull punches. Not many people want to leave here on there own, but sadly that is what happens. people prey on the vulnerable, we see it too often here. That level goes to depravity even in my bad state I can't begin to type the stories. I wish we didn't have to go alone, but in reality you should plan for that. if you honestly think there are not people here that would not take advantage of you in your last few minutes of life, then you really need to take a damn good look because there are.
It seems to be getting overcomplicated. I'm just looking to keep things simple. That's kind of the point of a partner thread I would think. I want do die. I'm not here for attention. I'm not here to vent. I'm looking for a partner who is looking to die. Not complicated.
Stan
Factoid Hunter
- Aug 29, 2019
- 2,589
Throw up an advert that you want to die in the physical company of someone - be prepared for a potential world of pain, Again, apologies that I am not in a great mood tonight but people are exposing themselves to the potential of sexual assault down to things i don't want to even mention which is even worse than the first ting i mentioned. For all our pain and sorrow, some people use this as a craigslist of victims in some shape or another. Blunt message ended.
I don't really understand what you mean. Specifically, what is your point. Nobody is going to be assaulting me. I am far from harmless I assure you. I don't want to die alone and I'm seeing people posting ads saying the same. I simply don't know why people are so...fake as to post that and then not be real. I mean I expect it to a point. People don't want to die. But it seems to be that the majority are liars. If you don't want to die why post the ad?
Ame
あめ
- Nov 1, 2019
- 322
Even if someone who posts in the Partner's Megathread has every intention of CTB, there is a question of compatibility to consider (on top of matters of security, because as mentioned previously, there are some disreputable people out there). The ending of one's life is a highly personal matter - perhaps the most personal decision that we make - and sharing that moment with someone else usually demands a lot of thought and trust. I cannot speak to your case, because I am not you nor am I any of the persons you have contacted thus far, but sometimes personalities don't "click" leading the other to decline in the end.
One of many possibilities to consider.
One of many possibilities to consider.
In my opinion it all depends on the reasons why said person wants to ctb. Most people probably dont intend to lie to you and just change theire mind. Someone with an average depression will probably change his mind a dozen times until he rlly goes through with it. Someone that lives in excruciating pain will probably go for it the second he has the chance to do so. Someone that bases his decision on 100% rational thoughts and is not influenced by special situations or emotions wont change his mind that easily either. i would say the more impulsive and emotional influenced the decision is the more likely it is that there will be a change of mind.
You don't.
And honestly you should check their medical history or why they want to end it.
Lastly, in opinion you should avoid group suicide, it's a den of people who can be exploitabled by sharks.
I totally get the point that vulnerable people can be exploited but I'm neither vulnerable nor looking to exploit anyone. It's just I'm going to die and I'm looking for someone else who is going to die and doesn't want to do it alone. It's really that simple if any of these people (that I have spoken to) were rational and actually knew whether or not they actually want to die or not. I'm ready to die. If you say you are suicidal I assume you are like me and you are too. What is being in a suicidal state if not ready to die? Should be we be posting partner ads if we are just in the ideation phase? No.
Well I agree up to a point. I should probably determine if any of these people are rational but I don't think it's my business to check their medical history and determine why they want to die. I don't have any business in anyone's medical history. I'm just looking for honest ready to die people. That's it. People who are 100 percent sure. Like me. I'm saying I'm 100 percent sure. I am telling the truth. I just don't know how to tell another person who says this from a bullshitter and so far there have been a few bullshitters.
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NotGoneButNotHere
Member
- Nov 3, 2019
- 45
Brain chemical imbalances are really a bitch, eh? I'm the same. some days I look back on my ideation and for a brief moment I see how fucked up it really is whereas other days death is in my mind from when I wake up until I go back to bed. Wouldn't wish this illness on anyone else honestly. I also have memory issues, appetite problems, and a lot of days don't even feel real to me. It's almost like a fucked up dream sometimes
Right I agree. That is a problem easily solvable by just being honest and communicating. "I don't feel like we are compatible for this final journey." Or "I am sorry but I have changed my mind."
That's the thing. I take my ideation seriously and have for years. I don't think the ideation is fucked up at all. I think death is preferable to this life after everything that has happened and I made a mistake trying to hang on to my marriage and family and live for that. I should have wasted myself years ago. Now I'm ready to do it.
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Wreck-it-Riley
My demon will see me undone
- Oct 20, 2019
- 269
Ok, i 100% see what you are trying to say. it should be easy. but have you thought about the type of things people can do to you once you are out? Maybe im the only one with intrusive thoughts, but i imagine all sorts of horrible things, from backing out after its to late for me and robbing the place, organ harvesting, sexual assault (many methods cause unconsciousness before you die, or in a worst case, after you go) you could end up murdered, there are some very sick people out there. Snuff porn is a thing. People are fucked up.
Sweet emotion
Enlightened
- Sep 14, 2019
- 1,325
I think you're taking it way to personally. People change their minds every day. It's not meant to be cruel or dishonest. Someone can believe with all their hearts that they're ready to die but when the time comes they may get scared. Maybe the best thing to do would be to do it by yourself.
Yeah I really don't think this has anything to do with sincerity. You might just be in a different place than many.
It's a natural human instinct to survive or hope for some kind of miracle.
I forgot which serial killer it was that I read about once, but I remember him saying he didn't actually want to make his first kill so he backed out at the last minute several times. The reason was he was hoping something divine or supernatural would stop him. He had even captured someone and went out in the rain literally hoping lightning would strike him down so he would know something was out there. It was the silence of God that was killing him internally.
Obviously this is no excuse to hurt random innocent people, to try to experiment with faith. But in the same vein, I think it's not only survival instinct, but I bet many hope some kind of miracle will occur at the last moment, some kind of divine intervention, whether we believe it's possible on a surface level or not.
Or maybe my ADHD brain is overthinking as usual and it's just simply really hard to kill yourself.
It's a natural human instinct to survive or hope for some kind of miracle.
I forgot which serial killer it was that I read about once, but I remember him saying he didn't actually want to make his first kill so he backed out at the last minute several times. The reason was he was hoping something divine or supernatural would stop him. He had even captured someone and went out in the rain literally hoping lightning would strike him down so he would know something was out there. It was the silence of God that was killing him internally.
Obviously this is no excuse to hurt random innocent people, to try to experiment with faith. But in the same vein, I think it's not only survival instinct, but I bet many hope some kind of miracle will occur at the last moment, some kind of divine intervention, whether we believe it's possible on a surface level or not.
Or maybe my ADHD brain is overthinking as usual and it's just simply really hard to kill yourself.
I don't know. I don't blame anyone for not wanting to kill theirselves. Not at all. I just wish maybe people were more sincere in their intent. I am just going to agree with with what sweet emotion posted above and move on. Too many people think they are ready but are not ready.
I am already going to have checked you out and assessed the situation in my mind. I wouldn't allow myself to be put in a scenario where any of those things are going to happen. Also once I'm dead I don't really care what happens to the body after that. I'm dead and gone. My brain will be dead. I won't exist anymore. I won't be conscious. That is the whole point of ctb for me.
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JimFord99
Enlightened
- Aug 18, 2019
- 1,047
I’vehadenough
Elementalist
- Sep 15, 2018
- 847
Sadddd
How did I end up here
- Jan 26, 2020
- 57
Catching up late on this thread but it appears some of you are still about. Have seen this issue about partners popping up a lot. I've been keen to reply to some but haven't as didn't want to be 'flaky' (is that an ok word in this case?!?).
My thoughts are that people are here for suicide but for many different reasons. I have days where it's the only solution and other days where it's a crazy thought. You catch someone in a state where it's their only solution or thought, they might like the idea of being in a group, next day maybe not.
A heartfelt acknowledgement of how frustrating this must be :/
Ps. Also noting that there are people here who like to at the very least interact with suicidal people
My thoughts are that people are here for suicide but for many different reasons. I have days where it's the only solution and other days where it's a crazy thought. You catch someone in a state where it's their only solution or thought, they might like the idea of being in a group, next day maybe not.
A heartfelt acknowledgement of how frustrating this must be :/
Ps. Also noting that there are people here who like to at the very least interact with suicidal people
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