willitpass

willitpass

Don’t try to offer me help, I’ve tried everything
Mar 10, 2020
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i found out today that a girl i was friends with in high school but we drifted has been shit talking behind my back to a coworker. we don't work together, we don't talk, i can't even remember the last time i had a conversation with her. but we have a few classes together since we ended up at the same school. in those classes we have no direct contact, don't sit by eachother or do projects together. i have no association with her. and i had no idea my coworker even knew her until today. she came in (i work at a restaurant) and her and my coworker talked for a bit. then we she left i was like "yeah she hates me" and my coworker was like "yeah she does i'm not gonna lie she talks about you all the time". it fucking sucked hearing that. like i said we don't talk. what can i possibly be doing that upsets her so much that she talks behind my back when we have no interactions. why does my existence bother her so much to talk to my fucking coworker about how much she hates me? i feel so useless
 
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Mixo

Mixo

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Aug 2, 2020
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Take what I'm about to say with a grain of salt, coming from a bonafide misanthrope.

This girl doesn't need a reason to shit talk. People shit talk for all kinds of reasons. They shit talk because deep down, they might feel insecure about their relationship with you or they're bitter because you drifted apart. They shit talk because something about you might threaten them deeply and they don't have the balls or the maturity to confront that part of themselves. They shit talk because maybe you stepped on a proverbial toe (although in this case, it sounds impossible) and they don't have the same aforementioned balls or maturity to talk to you about it to sort things out (and quite frankly, most people don't). They will shit talk a person because everyone around them is shit talking the same person and they want to feel included. The permutations for shit talking reasons might be infinite and there is absolutely no way to control this - this is the bad news for many of us who are sensitive to interpersonal rejection, so I totally sympathize with your feeling. I have been mercilessly bullied by coworkers for absolutely no reason at all and sometimes they did it only feet away from me, within earshot - and fully knowing it was within earshot. Some of these people lived rent-free in my mind for years.

You have two options - 1) you can talk to her and try to mend whatever rift that seems to have been forming between you, or 2), you can say "fuck her" and move on. I'm sure others here will chime in on the potential backstabbery that might happen if you do try to befriend her and I have to say based on your story, she's not winning any points in the "sterling character" department so far. So obviously you should be careful if you opt for the first, or at least find a way to detach emotionally if things go south.

If you want to move on, you may need to ask yourself why you want to earn approval from someone who doesn't like you? Will approval from this one random girl from your past truly impact your life if obtained or not obtained? Yes, it is human nature for us to want to be accepted, liked, included, but it should not interfere (further) with your self-image or self-esteem. And you have to do your best not to allow some shit talker - whoever they are - take that away from you because you deserve better.

Take it from someone who wasted a lot of time feeling badly about being rejected by other people. While it's good to reflect the best parts of ourselves outwardly onto our relationships with others, we still only have a finite amount of control in the matter of how others perceive us. If someone talks shit, remind yourself that you are worthwhile, have value, and that there are others in your life who can see that too. You don't need her, ultimately. If you can fix things with her, great. Now you can make up for lost time and your friendship could be even stronger than before. If not? Oh well, life goes on, you will continue, and most likely, you are probably better off.
 
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Dr Iron Arc

Dr Iron Arc

Into the Unknown
Feb 10, 2020
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I used to fear people disliking me too, still do. Over time though I came to realize that in my case, whatever they had to say about me, they're pretty much absolutely right. I guess I shouldn't recommend embracing the dislike because I'm a shining example of how terrible that method could end up but I will say it's now much easier to accept when people dislike me by knowing that they're right which means I can do nothing about it because if they aren't going to think better of me, why should I bother improving for them even if they're correct? It was a fairly gradual process accepting that I'm as evil as they say but to me at least it honestly feels way more refreshing than when people fake being nice to me and try to say kind but untrue things...

But yeah, I don't recommend this tactic though. It's just what helps for me.
 
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Mr2005

Mr2005

Don't shoot the messenger, give me the gun
Sep 25, 2018
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It hurts the most when it's someone you thought you knew. You feel betrayed. Otherwise I couldn't give a shit. Just give it to me straight like pear cider made from 100% pears
 
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WrongPlaceWrongTime

WrongPlaceWrongTime

Better never to have been
Jul 4, 2021
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Have to agree with @mixolydian here. People regularly talk shit behind each other's backs, often without so much a reason as "I just don't like them". Not to mention they can take advantage of the fact that the other person being completely oblivious to what others really think about them.
 
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WhiteRabbit

WhiteRabbit

I'm late, i'm late. For a very important date.
Feb 12, 2019
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She may be hurt that you drifted apart. Or maybe she's just a shit talker.

It's never fun to hear someone doesn't like you, but I think it get a bit easier as you age. Life and time make you care less about that stuff as the years go on.
 
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TheBestUsernameEver

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Dec 26, 2021
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One of the hardest lessons to learn is that not everybody will like you.

You could be a standout person who never moans or bitches, but there will always be somebody who doesn't like you for some reason.

After you've learned and accepted that not everybody will like you, the lesson you will learn after that is other people's behaviour reflects on them, not you.

Stop feeling bad about how other people behave.
If you want to 'get your own back', prove to everybody around you that the person is wrong through your maturity, self-control, and ability to rise above it.
 
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waitingforrest

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Dec 27, 2021
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Just my experiences with people. I honestly wish I could tell you the exact magical secret to not give a shit about other's opinions. Truth is I don't know either.

I pretend not to care what anyone says, but in some cases, I can't help it. It's so programed into my head, the words "what will others think about me?".

But I started to realize that humans are flawed. We all have a incomplete perception of each other. Never being able to know a person one hundred percent. We say and do hurtful things, intentionally or not. People will always find a reason to hate each other, it's just the reasons that are the hardest to figure out.

I know I attract haters everywhere I go. Maybe it's something about me or my opinions are controversial. I just remind myself, are the person's opinions about me worth my time? Of course I still worry about others, but not caring about the opinions of others has its benefits sometimes. It makes it easier to see when there are people that don't dislike you.

It's almost impossible to not care about what other people say, but It might be more manageable to decide what is worth caring about. Of course this is just me running my mouth. I don't have much experience with dealing with other people. I'm still learning.
 
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InezSerrano

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Dec 3, 2021
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i found out today that a girl i was friends with in high school but we drifted has been shit talking behind my back to a coworker. we don't work together, we don't talk, i can't even remember the last time i had a conversation with her. but we have a few classes together since we ended up at the same school. in those classes we have no direct contact, don't sit by eachother or do projects together. i have no association with her. and i had no idea my coworker even knew her until today. she came in (i work at a restaurant) and her and my coworker talked for a bit. then we she left i was like "yeah she hates me" and my coworker was like "yeah she does i'm not gonna lie she talks about you all the time". it fucking sucked hearing that. like i said we don't talk. what can i possibly be doing that upsets her so much that she talks behind my back when we have no interactions. why does my existence bother her so much to talk to my fucking coworker about how much she hates me? i feel so useless
Distance in time and space is the only solution I've found.
 
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