How to avoid unconsciously removing the exit bag?

[Daria98765]

This dude said :

I remember losing consciousness, and then suddenly feeling uncomfortable. Like something was wrong. I felt my body working completely on its own, tearing the bag off, and then my senses started coming back to me. It was awful.

I want to avoid such a nightmare and failing ctb,potentially getting brain damage.
What can you suggest?Maybe some medicine or to use ropes?

 

[Jrmull1993]

A zip tie would not be removable without you obtaining a tool such as a knife or scissors to remove.

 

[Daria98765]

A zip tie would not be removable without you obtaining a tool such as a knife or scissors to remove.

zip tie?Standard exit bag doesn't have one
you mean if you use a EEBD hood,right?
I'm asking about usual exit bag

 

[befree]

This dude said :


I want to avoid such a nightmare and failing ctb,potentially getting brain damage.
What can you suggest?...

Better use a diving equipment, instead of the bag.

 

[Daria98765]

Better use a diving equipment, instead of the bag.

I'm kinda scared to fuck up this set up,since I'm kinda stupid and might mess smh up in connecting nitrogen cylinder and diving mask

 

[befree]

Thousands of people worldwide are using this diving equipment every day. Basically the only difference is to use an inert gas cylinder instead of an oxygen cylinder.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/how-to-inhale-nitrogen-gas-from-clinder.94119/

 

[Jrmull1993]

zip tie?Standard exit bag doesn't have one
you mean if you use a EEBD hood,right?
I'm asking about usual exit bag

You can always add a zip tie to the bottom of the bag...

 

[Daria98765]

You can always add a zip tie to the bottom of the bag...

you mean ones that cops are using but with bigger radius for my neck,right?

 

[Jrmull1993]

you mean ones that cops are using but with bigger radius for my neck,right?

That's one option. If you seek out an electrical supply shop they sell them in 5' lengths as well.

 

[Daria98765]

That's one option. If you seek out an electrical supply shop they sell them in 5' lengths as well.

yeah,this thing won't be easy to remove,but I think I might just tear the bag unconsciously.

 

[Jrmull1993]

yeah,this thing won't be easy to remove,but I think I might just tear the bag unconsciously.

Have you thought about possibly incorporating restraints into your plan, Maybe tie your wrists or possibly use handcuffs?

 

[Yumeko.dreams]

Why do you think you would have any SI at all? If you are breathing an inert gas, your body won't see anything wrong. And when you pass out I can garentee your sleep/dying mind won't be able to move a muscle.
If you are that worried though? Just sit on your hands.

 

[Daria98765]

Have you thought about possibly incorporating restraints into your plan, Maybe tie your wrists or possibly use handcuffs?

Yes,Ropes or handcuff

Why do you think you would have any SI at all? If you are breathing an inert gas, your body won't see anything wrong. And when you pass out I can garentee your sleep/dying mind won't be able to move a muscle.
If you are that worried though? Just sit on your hands.

Here is why

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/failed-exit-bag-attempt.79943/#post-1430006

I never was actually,but then I read this in "failed exit bag attempt"

"I remember losing consciousness, and then suddenly feeling uncomfortable. Like something was wrong. I felt my body working completely on its own, tearing the bag off, and then my senses started coming back to me. It was awful."

 

[Yumeko.dreams]

Yes,Ropes or handcuff



Here is why

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/failed-exit-bag-attempt.79943/#post-1430006

I never was actually,but then I read this in "failed exit bag attempt"

"I remember losing consciousness, and then suddenly feeling uncomfortable. Like something was wrong. I felt my body working completely on its own, tearing the bag off, and then my senses started coming back to me. It was awful."

The only thing I can think of is an improper seal, technically speaking that shouldn't be possible. Could be a prolifer.

 

[Daria98765]

The only thing I can think of is an improper seal, technically speaking that shouldn't be possible. Could be a prolifer.

Check his/her page.
I don't think it's a prolifer

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/members/nekonomnom.17766/

I think,it's just survival instinct that won't let you die this easy.
Some people don't have such a problem with nitrogen,some have.The only way to find out if you have one or not is to try it.But I want to be ready for anything

 

[befree]

Why do you think you would have any SI at all? If you are breathing an inert gas, your body won't see anything wrong.

I don´t agree with this. The problem is the rebreathing of CO2. This wont happen when you use the diving equipment instead of the exit bag.

 

[Yumeko.dreams]

I don´t agree with this. The problem is the rebreathing of CO2. This wont happen when you use the diving equipment instead of the exit bag.

That depends on the gas used, nitrogen would force all air and Co2 out.

 

[befree]

That depends on the gas used, nitrogen would force all air and Co2 out.

No. What I said applies to both gases. Do some more research and you will see that I´m right.

 

[Yumeko.dreams]

No. What I said applies to both gases. Do some more research and you will see that I´m right.

"Both gases"? Theres like 5 gasses you could use. Argon for example is pretty heavy, so it might keep some Co2 trapped if you made the bag a little weird.

 

[Pedronte]

I didn't know this type of failure could occur.
Since it does, I don't think tying your hands would help. The human body has a lot of determination when it comes to surviving, as someone said on the other thread.

 

[Daria98765]

I didn't know this type of failure could occur.
Since it does, I don't think tying your hands would help. The human body has a lot of determination when it comes to surviving, as someone said on the other thread.

zip tie is pretty much hard to tear when they are on your hands