How to avoid post ctb notability?

[ManWithNoName]

Apparently there are youtubers out there who posts videos of those who ctb.

They probably search for various online articles and obituaries on the net of those who took their own lives, then compile them together - example video posted below.

Unfortunately when any piece of info is on the net, it's out there.

When I ctb, I do NOT want my death to be publicly disclosed as a suicide. My choice to exit from this life is simply because I have had enough, my ctb will be a 'rational suicide' as described by the Stoics. I also do not want anyone feeling sorry for me, nor do I want to have my name and ctb to end up as part of some anti-suicide campaign.

I know that those who put out these suicide memorial type presentations are doing so to for the best of intentions, but the possibility of my ctb being made public still concerns me.

This is why I think of ctb in a foreign country without any identification on me - die as a John Doe. But that also has its drawbacks.

Is having your suicide made public an issue for any of you? And if so, does anyone have in mind a way to avoid your ctb from being made public?

 

[Marawa]

it's definitely for me. if I had the funds I'd just go out of state. Being destitute & no family or friends to think of I'm sure I'd be just a Jane Doe.
I hate the idea of those who abandoned me & called me crazy having the satisfaction of feeling vindicated in their cruelty. Alas it doesn't seem possible

 

[throwaway123]

I know these videos. They are sad. The guy behind it also suffers from suicidal depression.

 

[Walilamdzi]

Do people really search and make lots of these compilations? I'd have thought that people maybe submitted stuff to them, if people wanted to commemorate someone. It's not a bit issue for me really.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Do people really search and make lots of these compilations? I'd have thought that people maybe submitted stuff to them, if people wanted to commemorate someone. It's not a bit issue for me really.

I'm certain that's what he does. If you take any name from that video and google it, you should get routed to an article about them (an obituary or news piece) that mentions their suicide.

Here's a website that lists a few that ate also featured in that video:

MyDeathSpace.com

mydeathspace.com

 

[Walilamdzi]

If it's that you want your death to be noted as being rational, couldn't you write a note that shows your philosophy and rational mindset? I'm not sure if it's possible to prevent a suicide from being in the press, but only some are.

 

[ManWithNoName]

If it's that you want your death to be noted as being rational, couldn't you write a note that shows your philosophy and rational mindset? I'm not sure if it's possible to prevent a suicide from being in the press, but only some are.

To many people, no suicide is rational - I just think it odd to leave a note.

I knew someone who committed suicide - she was in the online obituaries - spoke about her education and work. But I only found out that it was suicide privately when i spoke with her roommate.

If one ctb by jumping in front of a train which is where I'm leaning - that may be a higher risk of one's name being released to the public as a suicide. This is why I'm inclined to ctb without any form of ID - go out as a John Doe.

 

[Broken]

I don't care if people no I ctb but I'm definitley writing a letter about how it was the right decision for me and how people have judged me without noing everything that's going on. Still get the feeling it will fall on deaf ears but I think that's the problem that until you are living withsuicidal feelings you do believe in life/hopeand recovery.

 

[throwaway777]

how can one avoid having their name in an article online when ctb ?

 

[Broken]

To many people, no suicide is rational - I just think it odd to leave a note.

I knew someone who committed suicide - she was in the online obituaries - spoke about her education and work. But I only found out that it was suicide privately when i spoke with her roommate.

If one ctb by jumping in front of a train which is where I'm leaning - that may be a higher risk of one's name being released to the public as a suicide. This is why I'm inclined to ctb without any form of ID - go out as a John Doe.

I don't think its easy to ctb without people knowing that's how you went. The fact you said that even though somone managed to keep their ctb secret but you found out through general chat shows that they'll always be somone that will no/may divulge more than they should. If you can ctb without your body being found you might remain 'unknown' but that's not easy.

 

[LittleDuckling]

This is something that really bothers me, I dont even want a funeral let alone having my name plastered all over the newspapers. I have thought about writing not to have my name published or the suicide be reporting in a suicide note of sorts, but Im not sure how legally binding that is.

 

[Marawa]

how can one avoid having their name in an article online when ctb ?

I don't believe you will appear in any article or obituary as having ctb'ed unless a family does it or publicizes it. I've been involved with many drug addicts obits never once have I seen that mentioned & the funeral homes I've dealt with would probably advise not doing so if someone in grief wanted to anyway

 

[ManWithNoName]

I don't think its easy to ctb without people knowing that's how you went. The fact you said that even though somone managed to keep their ctb secret but you found out through general chat shows that they'll always be somone that will no/may divulge more than they should. If you can ctb without your body being found you might remain 'unknown' but that's not easy.

True - but my point is that her suicide was not made public on the internet nor any print news media.

 

[Carma]

I guess you could drink your N in a cave in the forest, or if you live by the sea drink it on the beach when the tide is low so it will be considered drowning, or go to a desert, drink the N there and they'll assume you got lost and die of dehydration (stay a few hours listening to music first get a nice red tan first).
(N or whatever)

 

[Walilamdzi]

The only people who I know who I think committed suicide didn't have anything published in an article or in online obituaries, so I know they don't always write about it. I'm not sure why though, I know nothing about the methods they used except hearing that the guy I went to school with 'fell' from something. People didn't even acknowledge that it was a suicide, I just think that it was since they held a fundraiser for the samaritans charity later.

I agree that in front of a train would be more likely to be something the news would pick up - I'm not trying to be annoying but I watched a documentary recently about the impact of jumping on train drivers. The drivers were so severely traumatised each time... one never worked on a train again and even moved out of London, because he couldn't stand to be in the city anymore. I don't think it's the best method because it involves damaging other people psychologically.

 

[ManWithNoName]

I guess you could drink your N in a cave in the forest,

What the hell is "N"?? Is everybody too scared posdibly for legal reasons they won't say what it is?

 

[Kikoo Loool]

What the hell is "N"?? Is everybody too scared posdibly for legal reasons they won't say what it is?

Nembutal

 

[Broken]

True - but my point is that her suicide was not made public on the internet nor any print news media.

Oh right yeah I see your point. I'd have to agree with others that ctb by train might stand more of a chance of being made public.

 

[ManWithNoName]

I agree that in front of a train would be more likely to be something the news would pick up - I'm not trying to be annoying but I watched a documentary recently about the impact of jumping on train drivers. The drivers were so severely traumatised each time... one never worked on a train again and even moved out of London, because he couldn't stand to be in the city anymore. I don't think it's the best method because it involves damaging other people psychologically.

Or maybe those train conductors are putting on a good show to receive a pension / disability compensation. All conductors are told from the get go that jumpers are part and parcel of their job.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Oh right yeah I see your point. I'd have to agree with others that ctb by train might stand more of a chance of being made public.

I'm thinking the same which then makes me have to decide if I ctb by train, then maybe do so as a John Doe, i.e. die without ID.

The other possibility is to die without ID or anything with my name, EXCEPT emergency contact numbers in my pocket - maybe my name does not get published because there will be a few more hoops for the media to jump through in order to get my name (as opposed to the police already having my name at the time of the ctb incident) .