How some people just manage to ctb while others dont?

[suicidaljane]

Why do you think some people manage to kill themsleves sucessfully and others dont? Some can do it even impulsively, like for example they suddenly get into fight with somenone and then they go to kill themsleves. They do it even without studying the methods. They just go grab a gun, go to nearest railways and wait for train, find something like belt and hang themselves in closet, etc. People of all ages commit suicide, even children and elderly, also people in restricted environments like prison or hospital find some way to do it. And then there are others who plan it to every little detail but they cant go with their plan even though their life is miserable.

 

[imOK]

Survival instincts, unsafe methods, planning that went into their suicide. There's a lot of variables and the human body can sometimes take an astonishing amount of punishment. I also honestly believe (and I'm ready to die on that hill) that quite a good part of people that "attempt" to kill themselves, no matter what they say, don't really plan to die but want to draw attention to themselves for various reasons.

 

[Nobodi]

They come to a realization that this is real and no matter what nothing is going to change. It's either i end it here or i continue to suffer. The last slither of hope that things will change for the better disappear. The idea of death becomes freedom.

 

[dontletthembribeyou]

I think a lot of people unconsciously sabotage their attempts

 

[Subhumano]

I guess some are more afraid or insecure about it. Thats why they plan it so much to begin with.
I fear Ill never be able to do it.

 

[Knoc]

There is not one single aspect that clearly motivates someone to actually do it; it depends on the situation and the person. It's very complex.



-People vary in the way their brains are wired, meaning that there are folks who are much more impulsive than others to begin with.


-Terrible life events like being diagnosed with a terminal illness or getting cheated on can trigger a strong emotional response.


-Having access to a quick and painless method like a firearm


-A mental illness that deludes you from reality so you can't properly judge the consequences of your actions

 

[Warriorsfan]

I feel the same way as suicidaljane.

 

[ididnotconsent]

People are wired differently. Some are more ballsy than others.

 

[Linda]

Determination and thorough planning are probably the main reasons. What may look like luck is more likely to be the result of proper planning.

 

[bananaolympus]

This is why i am against meticulously planning, choose your method lets say sn follow the protocol don't choose a day do it when you feel it, i feel si is overrated if you can't go through is because you are not ready to die

 

[Knoc]

Determination and thorough planning are probably the main reasons. What may look like luck is more likely to be the result of proper planning.

I would venture to say most suicides are impulsive just because of the nature of the action itself , in my opinión determination is way more important than a detailed plan.

I'm just talking out of my ass tho, i dont have any studies to back my guesses

 

[Linda]

I would venture to say most suicides are impulsive just because of the nature of the action itself , in my opinión determination is way more important than a detailed plan.

I'm just talking out of my ass tho, i dont have any studies to back my guesses

Determination without proper planning is a good way to finish up alive but badly injured. Not planing is planning to fail.

 

[suicidaljane]

I personally have planned everything for months, I know a lot about my method and what needs to be done. But I still cant do it, even though living is hell.

 

[PrismHon]

To paraphrase Neo from The Matrix:

"Balls. Lots of balls."

 

[Knoc]

Determination without proper planning is a good way to finish up alive but badly injured. Not planing is planning to fail.

Fair enough, i guess It just depends on the method, some are fairly straight foward and will kill you 100% they just require a lot of guts , like stabbing your heart , painting a smile on your neck, showering in gasoline

 

[JesiBel]

Having your method well-studied and being in a state of complete despair and alone without anyone interrupting, I suppose, are the perfect combination. When you feel like you've already fallen into the depths of the abyss and there's no turning back.

Those dark moments where nothing else matters, not the pain, not what will happen next... you just do it.

I think the subconscious has a lot to do with how convinced and determinated you are to ctb. If ctb was always an option for you, it will always be in your mind.

Being impulsive would also work, if you have a method that is quick enough to execute and has no escape.

 

[nebulous3000]

I have tried 3 times to partial hang and each time I get to a point where I'm experiencing whole body convulsions and seizures, which is like glitching out it's very strange. That's where SI kicks in for me and I find myself standing still glitching out for several seconds after.

I asked chat gpt about it and it said that not all people experience this symptom when hanging. Apparently it's due to constricting the artery which causes seizures. If only the jugular vein is constricted then there would be no symptoms.

Not sure if this helps but that's been my experience. Cheers.

 

[suicidaljane]

I have tried 3 times to partial hang and each time I get to a point where I'm experiencing whole body convulsions and seizures, which is like glitching out it's very strange. That's where SI kicks in for me and I find myself standing still glitching out for several seconds after.

I asked chat gpt about it and it said that not all people experience this symptom when hanging. Apparently it's due to constricting the artery which causes seizures. If only the jugular vein is constricted then there would be no symptoms.

Not sure if this helps but that's been my experience. Cheers.

unfortunately constricting artery is also what causes faster loss of conciousness in hanging, so you want to ideally compress them , convulsions are part of it (can be different for every person, some heavy and some almost none convulsions)

jugular vein compression has more of an effect on venous return (the flow of blood back to the heart) and contributes to increased pressure in the head, but it usually does not cause unconsciousness as quickly as carotid artery compression.

 

[bankai]

Why do some people win the lottery? Luck. Luck is the determining factor.

 

[Linda]

Why do some people win the lottery? Luck. Luck is the determining factor.

For the lottery, yes. But for ctb, luck doesn't have much to do with it. It's proper planning that matters.
Do you know the story about the Emperor Napoleon? Someone remarked to him that one of Napoleon's generals had been lucky to win a particular battle. Napoleon's reply was: I expect all my generals to be lucky. What he meant was that it wasn't luck at all, it was professionalism and good planning.

 

[bankai]

For the lottery, yes. But for ctb, luck doesn't have much to do with it. It's proper planning that matters.
Do you know the story about the Emperor Napoleon? Someone remarked to him that one of Napoleon's generals had been lucky to win a particular battle. Napoleon's reply was: I expect all my generals to be lucky. What he meant was that it wasn't luck at all, it was professionalism and good planning.

Luck plays a reasonable part though.an important one. For example, you could jump from somewhere high up, but the angle you fall, or extreme winds or a sand lorry appearing right in underneath you as you fall could make all the difference.No amount of planning or work could make up for the crazy possibilities that could sometimes happen.