How much do nuanced opinions count on Sanctioned Suicide compared to the rest of the internet? (e.g. social media)

[noname223]

I think some threads of @DarkRange55 don't get the attention they deserve. Lol. Sorry for sucking you off. Maybe because they are sometimes sort of complicated and not all of us have the mental resources to spend energy on a topic in such a depth.

I have the feeling extremely detailed takes are not that appreciated on the internet. In general I think the discussions on SaSu have a high quality considering the honesty and compassion. It is a very good place to talk about stigmatized issues in an uncensored way. But we are no intellectuals and there are no academic discussions on here.

It is a nice chat. But I have the feeling the politics subforum is more part of the media discourse itself. And I am contributing to it. We vent about politics as we think of it. We share our opinions to feel better. But it is rather seldom to discuss empirical evidence, variables, mediators etc. I am not sure whether the main goal of the discourse in politics is finding the truth or just to set a certain narrative.

What do you think?

 

[Always-in-trouble]

I think some threads of @DarkRange55 don't get the attention they deserve. Lol. Sorry for sucking you off. Maybe because they are sometimes sort of complicated and not all of us have the mental resources to spend energy on a topic in such a depth.

I have the feeling extremely detailed takes are not that appreciated on the internet. In general I think the discussions on SaSu have a high quality considering the honesty and compassion. It is a very good place to talk about stigmatized issues in an uncensored way. But we are no intellectuals and there are no academic discussions on here.

It is a nice chat. But I have the feeling the politics subforum is more part of the media discourse itself. And I am contributing to it. We vent about politics as we think of it. We share our opinions to feel better. But it is rather seldom to discuss empirical evidence, variables, mediators etc. I am not sure whether the main goal of the discourse in politics is finding the truth or just to set a certain narrative.

What do you think?

Can't really seperate this forum from the wider social media landscape, many of us here use them too. I honestly think viewpoints are actually more extreme here but people either contain them to vents that others don't engage with, try to understand but provide a different viewpoint or agree entirely, because suicide is the main motivator here while those circumstances are just side contributers.

 

[sshine]

These days everything runs on algorithms. At least this place is safe. The forum's self selection brings out more direct and extreme views. Some users here may feel they don't have anyone else to speak with about broader issues. So this space can serve that purpose. The kind of political discourse we see in the news tend to revolve around persuasion, group signaling, and framing rather than deep analysis. Still, that doesn't mean we can't explore topics using statistics and evidence. Feel free to start a discussion.

 

[Pluto]

 

[Forever Sleep]

Nuanced views on what though? The- 'Does pineapple belong on a pizza' debate is likely still raging somewhere here... I suppose that's more love or hate vs. nuanced argument though.

I'm guessing you mean serious, political opinions? I suppose it's not everyone's cup of tea for one. Like you say, many of us are probably too exhausted for that. Or, very ill informed- like me. I'll often read a thread which is interesting but then realise I know too little to form an opinion I feel confident to express.

Politics can be pretty divisive too. I imagine some people don't want to express their absolutely true feelings because they may not come here to argue.

I tend to think, while we are fairly open to talking about death and the right to die so- we'll debate the whole spectrum of pro-mortalist to pro-life viewpoints, other more sensitive subjects, there's less tolerance for.

I remember a post not too long ago where a member argued that Epstein's activities could be viewed in terms of Epicurean Greek philosophy. That, predictably (and understandably) caused backlash. Generally, tolerance towards paedophilia isn't tolerated. Plus, both trans and gender threads frequently become volatile in both directions.

I'd tend to say- although this is a very open and generally friendly forum, because, as individual members we can become very triggered- even by questions or misunderstandings, there isn't always much room for nuanced opinions- over certain things anyway.

Also- not meaning this as a criticism but, yourself and DarkRange post very interesting threads I think. Although, you maybe do less in terms of interacting with replies on your threads. So- it may be that people don't post their responses because they may not be acknowledged. No point in arguing into a void. Again- it's not meant as a criticism. We're all free to use the forum in the best way it benefits us. But, it isn't really a nuanced debate if there isn't much back and forth. More like reading an article, making a comment and having it go unnoticed.

I suspect there are some very well informed intellectuals on the forum though. We're a very mixed group.

 

[Captive_Mind515]

Nuanced views on what though? The- 'Does pineapple belong on a pizza' debate is likely still raging somewhere here... I suppose that's more love or hate vs. nuanced argument though.

I'm guessing you mean serious, political opinions? I suppose it's not everyone's cup of tea for one. Like you say, many of us are probably too exhausted for that. Or, very ill informed- like me. I'll often read a thread which is interesting but then realise I know too little to form an opinion I feel confident to express.

Politics can be pretty divisive too. I imagine some people don't want to express their absolutely true feelings because they may not come here to argue.

I tend to think, while we are fairly open to talking about death and the right to die so- we'll debate the whole spectrum of pro-mortalist to pro-life viewpoints, other more sensitive subjects, there's less tolerance for.

I remember a post not too long ago where a member argued that Epstein's activities could be viewed in terms of Epicurean Greek philosophy. That, predictably (and understandably) caused backlash. Generally, tolerance towards paedophilia isn't tolerated. Plus, both trans and gender threads frequently become volatile in both directions.

I'd tend to say- although this is a very open and generally friendly forum, because, as individual members we can become very triggered- even by questions or misunderstandings, there isn't always much room for nuanced opinions- over certain things anyway.

Also- not meaning this as a criticism but, yourself and DarkRange post very interesting threads I think. Although, you maybe do less in terms of interacting with replies on your threads. So- it may be that people don't post their responses because they may not be acknowledged. No point in arguing into a void. Again- it's not meant as a criticism. We're all free to use the forum in the best way it benefits us. But, it isn't really a nuanced debate if there isn't much back and forth. More like reading an article, making a comment and having it go unnoticed.

I suspect there are some very well informed intellectuals on the forum though. We're a very mixed group.

Since I had a ham and pineapple pizza for dinner last night, they absolutely do belong on a pizza… but if you served one up to an Italian, they would quite rightly punch you in the face!

Now, I did respond to the most important aspect of your post right?

 

[noname223]

Nuanced views on what though? The- 'Does pineapple belong on a pizza' debate is likely still raging somewhere here... I suppose that's more love or hate vs. nuanced argument though.

I'm guessing you mean serious, political opinions? I suppose it's not everyone's cup of tea for one. Like you say, many of us are probably too exhausted for that. Or, very ill informed- like me. I'll often read a thread which is interesting but then realise I know too little to form an opinion I feel confident to express.

Politics can be pretty divisive too. I imagine some people don't want to express their absolutely true feelings because they may not come here to argue.

I tend to think, while we are fairly open to talking about death and the right to die so- we'll debate the whole spectrum of pro-mortalist to pro-life viewpoints, other more sensitive subjects, there's less tolerance for.

I remember a post not too long ago where a member argued that Epstein's activities could be viewed in terms of Epicurean Greek philosophy. That, predictably (and understandably) caused backlash. Generally, tolerance towards paedophilia isn't tolerated. Plus, both trans and gender threads frequently become volatile in both directions.

I'd tend to say- although this is a very open and generally friendly forum, because, as individual members we can become very triggered- even by questions or misunderstandings, there isn't always much room for nuanced opinions- over certain things anyway.

Also- not meaning this as a criticism but, yourself and DarkRange post very interesting threads I think. Although, you maybe do less in terms of interacting with replies on your threads. So- it may be that people don't post their responses because they may not be acknowledged. No point in arguing into a void. Again- it's not meant as a criticism. We're all free to use the forum in the best way it benefits us. But, it isn't really a nuanced debate if there isn't much back and forth. More like reading an article, making a comment and having it go unnoticed.

I suspect there are some very well informed intellectuals on the forum though. We're a very mixed group.

You are right I am not that active when it comes to replies. I tried to improve a little bit because other members mentioned it too. I have a suspicion why this is the case but I am not entirely sure about it.

 

[Forever Sleep]

You are right I am not that active when it comes to replies. I tried to improve a little bit because other members mentioned it too. I have a suspicion why this is the case but I am not entirely sure about it.

There's no obligation to reply to posts on our own threads. I only tend to pick up on ones that make me think of other things. But, I think that's sometimes why people don't respond on threads. Especially not in great detail.