How Many of You Are Sociopaths?

[ThatIsTheQuestion]

Obviously I'm kidding a little, but it seems like SS does attract a fair amount of sociopaths/psychopaths. People who like to hang around and watch the rest of us suffer. And scammers of course. I've been lurking here since last year, and the number of N scams is kinda breathtaking. It's one of the rarest recreational drugs in the USA but some people here make it sound like you can buy it at any street corner anywhere, just send them some bitcoin and they'll point you in the right direction.

I'm excluding the vast majority of people here. Wanting to ctb is entirely different from sitting back, rubbing your hands together in cackling glee, and watching as it happens to someone else. Choice is one thing. Encouragement is another. Just wondering how common people think that is.

 

[Dubs]

I don't think it is common at all, the psychopath part. I don't think is matches psychopathic behavior unless they have something to gain from it. Lets say a rival is going to commit suicide, a psycho would take pleasure in that. But random people committing suicide is not something a psychopath would enjoy, but please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[dreamofme]

psycopaths are inherintly narcissistic , so they literally love themselves too much to commit suicide. sociopaths will have the same problem but may not be as narcissitic. More likely to find them doing the killing than killing themselves.

 

[Tortured_empath]

psycopaths are inherintly narcissistic , so they literally love themselves too much to commit suicide. sociopaths will have the same problem but may not be as narcissitic. More likely to find them doing the killing than killing themselves.

Wouln't they just choose suicide in cold blood? As a rational choice if their lives become too horrible (like a jail sentence, finanical problems etc.)?

I might be kind of sociopathic after my brain injury. I have a hard time sympathizing and relating to other people. I guess I just don't have the mental capacity to manipulate people, also I knpw that it would be wrong to do.

 

[dreamofme]

Wouln't they just choose suicide in cold blood? As a rational choice if their lives become too horrible (like a jail sentence, finanical problems etc.)?

I might be kind of sociopathic after my brain injury. I have a hard time sympathizing and relating to other people. I guess I just don't have the mental capacity to manipulate people, also I knpw that it would be wrong to do.

If the question is can they take their own life? , (without being a clinical psychologist) i'd think they dont have any more of a tendancy too than others. If you look at psychopathy and sociopathy whilst they possess the detachment from feelings like regret and love that may help with suicide, I havent read anything on those "mental disorders" causing more suicides, homicides ? Yes definately , just look at ted bundy , but suicides ? Id have to see more evidence.

Im not a psychopath or a sociopath and cant speak for those who are but my guess is if a psycopaths life was getting too bad their first thought wouldnt be let me kill myself , it would be who do I have to kill to get what I want. I go back to the Ted Bundy example. Ted loved killing people, he is a well known psycopath, in that respect you could say after he got arrested you would think he would have just killed himself because the thing he enjoyed the most had been taken away from him. But instead Ted died by the elctric chair by another mans hand.

 

[Etherealdignity333]

Psychopaths and sociopaths are unlikely to end their own lives. They don't feel pain enough to make it feel necessary. Most are not, however, past using it as a last resort to avoid consequences they deem intolerable. Psychopaths in particular also tend to be more on the impulsive side of the spectrum, so you can't rule it out completely.

I would also hazard a guess that if there are any here for the sole purpose of watching suffering, they must be pretty low-functioning, and for some reason can't meet their quota of sadistic pleasure out in the world.

They seek novelty and dopamine pumping excitement that this kind of forum would not provide.

 

[Crystal Labeija]

Part of my suicide involves planning a humane future for my cat; i.e. I'm waiting until I can find a kind and nurturing environment for him. I will NOT cbt before I am 100% assured that he will receive the love and affection that he needs.

So, fuck you, I know enough about myself to know that I am no sociopath. However, I was born in a world run by sociopath. Heck, the most powerful country in the world (the United States) is run by a sociopath (Donald Trump and Mike Pence). The second most powerful country (Russia) is run by a man who is both a sociopath and a psychopath.

 

[GeorgeJL]

Obviously I'm kidding a little, but it seems like SS does attract a fair amount of sociopaths/psychopaths. People who like to hang around and watch the rest of us suffer. And scammers of course. I've been lurking here since last year, and the number of N scams is kinda breathtaking. It's one of the rarest recreational drugs in the USA but some people here make it sound like you can buy it at any street corner anywhere, just send them some bitcoin and they'll point you in the right direction.

I'm excluding the vast majority of people here. Wanting to ctb is entirely different from sitting back, rubbing your hands together in cackling glee, and watching as it happens to someone else. Choice is one thing. Encouragement is another. Just wondering how common people think that is.

I think your misunderstanding peoples intention. When someone does a suicide live blog for instance and there are comments such as "safe travels" "I hope you find your peace." etc, those are just comments reflecting others own desire to end it. Those are not considered helping, aiding, or encouraging. They are considered supportive of the original posters desire to end it. And that is perfectly fine. I mean what are we suppose to say when a person is ending it. "OMG don't do that." "You need Jesus." etc. Hell no, we are pro-choice. So we will support you in whatever you want to do. That is not being psychopathic or sociopathic.

This all comes down to intent. Someone could say the exact same thing eg "safe travels" but with the intent that they will enjoy watching this person die for the sake of watching them die. Like they feed into that negative energy. But that is totally different than the above mentioned intents. I think you need to stop looking at this from a purely pessimistic point of view and consider that people just want others to find peace regardlss of how that is done. Or ask them and try to figure out what their intent is. Most people will gladly share what's on their minds.

 

[Etherealdignity333]

Part of my suicide involves planning a humane future for my cat; i.e. I'm waiting until I can find a kind and nurturing environment for him. I will NOT cbt before I am 100% assured that he will receive the love and affection that he needs.

So, fuck you, I know enough about myself to know that I am no sociopath. However, I was born in a world run by sociopath. Heck, the most powerful country in the world (the United States) is run by a sociopath (Donald Trump and Mike Pence). The second most powerful country (Russia) is run by a man who is both a sociopath and a psychopath.

OP wasn't calling everyone on the board sociopaths. They were merely observing that some might come here to watch suffering. They even state that they are not referring to most people on the board just looking for a place to spend their final days with people who understand them.

 

[Oblivion Lover]

I roll my eyes every time I see someone using the terms "sociopath" and "sadist" as if they had the same meaning. Just so you know, "pure" sociopaths (that is, those without any other disorders) don't care enough about others to want them to suffer for no reason at all, and will only ruin the lives of other people if they will obtain something from it. Sadists, on the other hand, actively try to make sentient beings suffer just because it gives them pleasure. People need to understand is that all sadists are sociopaths, but not all sociopaths are sadists, and that treating them as if they were the same does a lot of harm. It's not hard to get why people think like that, though. Movies have done a great job at making people think that every sociopath is a serial killer and they will only stop destroying lives when dead or not even after that, being revived over and over. In reality, most sociopaths live fairly normal lives and are not violent or cruel unless provoked.

 

[Tazmaniac]

Obviously I'm kidding a little, but it seems like SS does attract a fair amount of sociopaths/psychopaths. People who like to hang around and watch the rest of us suffer. And scammers of course. I've been lurking here since last year, and the number of N scams is kinda breathtaking. It's one of the rarest recreational drugs in the USA but some people here make it sound like you can buy it at any street corner anywhere, just send them some bitcoin and they'll point you in the right direction.

I'm excluding the vast majority of people here. Wanting to ctb is entirely different from sitting back, rubbing your hands together in cackling glee, and watching as it happens to someone else. Choice is one thing. Encouragement is another. Just wondering how common people think that is.

I think you are reading it wrong.
Most of the people here aren't encouraging others, or even wanting ANYONE to commit suicide.
This forum is filled with very young people in a lot of pain that they don't know what to do with. They are being screwed (emotionally, spiritually and all other kind of ways) by all the adults in their life, by all the people who are supposed to love and guide them. They need somewhere to talk about what no one else will let them talk about. This IS their safe place, and it's a suicide chat room. It's so obvious that the majority of the people in here are not going to commit suicide anytime in the near future...being angry and talking about all their feelings is the only thing that keeps them alive sometimes.
Is it healthy? Probably not. But what I do at my age isn't healthy either....who am I to decide who you are?
I think the percentage of trolls and rubber necks is quite small. Conversely, if some of the people do not stop carelessly setting up a perfect scenario for scammers, these rooms will turn into the very thing your trying to avoid.

 

[Vegrau]

Obviously I am kidding a little, but it seems like real world does attract a lot of pyschopath/sociopath.

Obviously I am kidding a little, but it seems like someone here is acting like dumbass and pulling nonsense out of their own fucking ass without any proof to back their words up.

 

[ManWithNoName]

I would think that if there are any sociopaths, that they would end up revealing themselves eventually, albeit indirectly.

Then there are, as you mentioned, scammers selling bogus drugs / means for ctb.

Then there might be (but have no reason to suspect one way or another) that there are those who do not intend to ctb, yet are infatuated with death - not necessarily debating an Afterlife, but just the fascination with the concept of death itself. So they may be lurking here at SS to indulge in the topic of self deliverance. I'm not saying that there are any of these types here, but not outside the relm of possibility. A friend of mine was very much like the character named Harold from the 1971 movie "Harold And Maude". The dude would just crash funerals and visit cemeteries and stuff. He used to fake his death for for the fun of it, mock his suicide, etc and pull shit like this:

 

[Lisa]

This is a reply to all of you:

Labels are bullshit

 

[Etherealdignity333]

I roll my eyes every time I see someone using the terms "sociopath" and "sadist" as if they had the same meaning. Just so you know, "pure" sociopaths (that is, those without any other disorders) don't care enough about others to want them to suffer for no reason at all, and will only ruin the lives of other people if they will obtain something from it. Sadists, on the other hand, actively try to make sentient beings suffer just because it gives them pleasure. People need to understand is that all sadists are sociopaths, but not all sociopaths are sadists, and that treating them as if they were the same does a lot of harm. It's not hard to get why people think like that, though. Movies have done a great job at making people think that every sociopath is a serial killer and they will only stop destroying lives when dead or not even after that, being revived over and over. In reality, most sociopaths live fairly normal lives and are not violent or cruel unless provoked.

Perhaps, but I've met very few people that exhibited dark triad traits that didn't have at least a sadistic vein. Sadism is a continuum, like any other personality trait. Maybe it only comes out when they are mad. Maybe it only exists in their head as they silently revel in something dark. Not all sadism is animal torture and murder. Sometimes it just looks like a darker version of schadenfreude. A lack of genuine empathy and remorse coupled with a highly reactive reward pathway does strange things to the brain.

This is a reply to all of you:

Labels are bullshit

Correct, generally speaking. But it is human nature to classify things. I think of them less as a definition and more of a data set.

 

[Lisa]

Perhaps, but I've met very few people that exhibited dark triad traits that didn't have at least a sadistic vein. Sadism is a continuum, like any other personality trait. Maybe it only comes out when they are mad. Maybe it only exists in their head as they silently revel in something dark. Not all sadism is animal torture and murder. Sometimes it just looks like a darker version of schadenfreude. A lack of genuine empathy and remorse coupled with a highly reactive reward pathway does strange things to the brain.


Correct, generally speaking. But it is human nature to classify things. I think of them less as a definition and more of a data set.

I'll buy that, it's a good way of thinking of it.

 

[262653]

I don't get the word "sociopathy". 'Social/of a group' gets mashed together with 'pain/suffering/disorder', to produce what? What about naturopath? Is that a person who hates/has a strong aversion towards nature?

 

[k75]

A friend of mine was very much like the character named Harold from the 1971 movie "Harold And Maude". The dude would just crash funerals and visit cemeteries and stuff. He used to fake his death for for the fun of it, mock his suicide, etc and pull shit like this:

I really have nothing constructive to add to this discussion, but I just had to say I LOVE that you referenced Harold and Maude! One of my favorite movies.

 

[Etherealdignity333]

Hey speaking of sociopaths who only commit suicide when their back is up against the wall and the alternative is deemed worse, Jeffery Epstein just killed himself a day after the unsealing of his records.

 

[262653]

Hey speaking of sociopaths who only commit suicide when their back is up against the wall and the alternative is deemed worse, Jeffery Epstein just killed himself a day after the unsealing of his records.

Russian wiki page briefly describes him as "financier, philanthrope, and convicted sex offender"

 

[Etherealdignity333]

Russian wiki page briefly describes him as "financier, philanthrope, and convicted sex offender"

Fantastic.

 

[Guizin239]

I might be. I'm a horrible, controlling, manipulative person.

 

[Etherealdignity333]

Russian wiki page briefly describes him as "financier, philanthrope, and convicted sex offender"

Someone may have killed him. He had an immense amount of dirt on very powerful people, and those who molest children are bound to have shaky morals.

 

[TheBlackSwordsman]

Someone may have killed him. He had an immense amount of dirt on very powerful people, and those who molest children are bound to have shaky morals. View attachment 14723

Yeah imo he definitely was "suicided." Remember he had already attempted "suicide" within the last week or so. I would think that if a high profile prisoner like that attempts suicide they would at least have constant surveillance on him if not move him to a more secure holding area. I keep telling people this pedophile and human trafficking thing goes to the highest levels of govt. For anyone interested, check out the book the franklin coverup and there is a rough cut of a documentary that was supposed to air on the discovery channel in the 90s but got axed at the last minute. Someone on the inside saved a copy before they were all destroyed. The name of the documentary is Conspiracy of silence. You can search for it on youtube under "conspiracy of silence john decamp." I wouldnt watch it at night.

 

[Etherealdignity333]

Yeah imo he definitely was "suicided." Remember he had already attempted "suicide" within the last week or so. I would think that if a high profile prisoner like that attempts suicide they would at least have constant surveillance on him if not move him to a more secure holding area. I keep telling people this pedophile and human trafficking thing goes to the highest levels of govt. For anyone interested, check out the book the franklin coverup and there is a rough cut of a documentary that was supposed to air on the discovery channel in the 90s but got axed at the last minute. Someone on the inside saved a copy before they were all destroyed. The name of the documentary is Conspiracy of silence. You can search for it on youtube under "conspiracy of silence john decamp." I wouldnt watch it at night.

Reportedly, he was taken off suicide watch the day before, which is almost more suspicious.

 

[TheBlackSwordsman]

Reportedly, he was taken off suicide watch the day before, which is almost more suspicious.

I hadnt known that. Yeah thats very suspicious.

 

[Shamana]

I don't think there a lot of Sociopaths here but then again I don't know people here. I think assisting stranger's suicide over the net can be questionable though since we really don't know the person on the other side.

 

[glk]

I think I am a somethingsomethingpath, but I'm not here to have a laugh.

 

[Baskol1]

Im not a sociopath, but im autistic. So i do sometimes lack empathy. But im not really manipulative, or abusive. Besides, most sociopaths would never kill themselves.

 

[moodygrl]

I might be. I lack emphaty which is one of the main reasons why I want to ctb. cant feel like others. My therapist tested me and said I wasnt, the result was schizoid, but deep down I still think im a sociopath. not here for fun or to enjoy nor help anybody kill themselves. I dont care about anybody around me and dwelve in my own personal hell.
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