There are two reasons why I am not killing myself. One of them is the fear of the physical and mental agony while doing the suicide and the other one is fear of reincarnation. I believe everything in existence is made of the same energy and the same consciousness that is splitting itself into different streams of consciousness (souls) that then create different points of perspective (different lives). And I believe that the same stream of consciousness won't let go of simulating the same kind of life circumstances until it gets some kind of resolution of those circumstances before dying. So I am afraid that if I kill myself I will only end up re-experiencing a similar life right after I end this one. That kind of thinking gets me into crazy thought spirals because I feel like there is literally NO way out. I'm stuck in this shit forever. I can't ever end it. I can't even feel relief in thinking of killing myself or dying one day. That is the most maddening feeling I know. As much as I don't wish this kind of suffering on anyone, I would love to know at least that I'm not the only one who has fallen down this rabbit hole. Does anyone else fear what will happen after death? I think I would've been long gone by now if I didn't have these beliefs.
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ijustwishtodie
death will be my ultimate bliss
- Oct 29, 2023
- 3,305
I'm not scared as to what would happen after death because I believe that after death is just permanent non existence. I don't believe in reincarnation at all and, even if I did, I still wouldn't be scared because reincarnation is like a clean slate anyway as nobody can truly retain memories between lives
Agon321
I use google translate
- Aug 21, 2023
- 934
I think most people here are afraid of what comes after death. I am such a person too.
I don't know if when the SN kills me (I hope), some characters will appear around me? Will I be teleported somewhere? Will I wake up from my dream? Will someone disconnect me from the simulation? Will I only see darkness? Or will I end up in an endless torture room? Or...
Many questions and no answers.
I don't like unknowns.
Especially those where there is no anchor point.
I don't know if when the SN kills me (I hope), some characters will appear around me? Will I be teleported somewhere? Will I wake up from my dream? Will someone disconnect me from the simulation? Will I only see darkness? Or will I end up in an endless torture room? Or...
Many questions and no answers.
I don't like unknowns.
Especially those where there is no anchor point.
I got the human knocked out of my skull in a car crash once. Bleeding on my brain, amnesia in both directions, told I might be handicapped when I woke up. Converted back to a lizard.
Didn't experience a single thing during all that process. My memory goes from before the accident to the hospital.
Didn't experience a single thing during all that process. My memory goes from before the accident to the hospital.
I'm another one sacred of not knowing whether I am doing the "right" thing or upsetting some higher power by ctb'ing. The way I see it, society doesn't punish vets for putting animals down and I feel I've been a decent person during my time here. So what am I sacred about? I don't know and think it is just SI fucking with us.
I've had numerous debates with Buddhists over the belief in reincarnation (not saying you're a Buddhist), yet to hear any evidence or even convincing argument that it exists in any form. I hate to know you're suffering due to that attachment, so just encourage you to fully challenge those ideas if you haven't already.
I'm more afraid of the process of dying.
Though I will admit I sometimes worry: if we could gradually be born into this reality a first time, what's to stop it happening a second time?
Though I will admit I sometimes worry: if we could gradually be born into this reality a first time, what's to stop it happening a second time?
The fact that no scientist has ever figured out how consciousness can just simply arise from atoms is enough proof to me that there's something more at play.
pollux
Member
- May 24, 2024
- 60
Consciousness is a process that happens in the brain; if your brain stops working, you're gone.
If you believe in computationalism though, I suppose you're screwed if someone wants to simulate your consciousness again. So better hope physicalism is right.
If you believe in computationalism though, I suppose you're screwed if someone wants to simulate your consciousness again. So better hope physicalism is right.
Yuki_03
I really can't take it
- Aug 9, 2023
- 489
for me its just fuck around and find out.
and i hope to find out soon.
and i hope to find out soon.
No, our consciousness will end upon death, it would feel no different than before we existed.
SilverTiger
Life is the night, I seek the warmth of the sun.
- Apr 18, 2024
- 105
If I were to take the purely scientific way, then our consciousness will end upon death, that is it, and we're done. Eternal rest and peace.
I grew up in England, and I am gay. I am paranoid, if real; God is going to send me to Hell for stealing things as a teenager, and for loving another boy.
I choose to believe in Buddhist philosophy.
I will reincarnate as another human, and this will play out again, and again, and again till I get it right, and either vastly shift my karmic count, or I extinguish desire entirely and break free of the cycle of Samsara.
Please take heed, you won't live the same life over and and over and over... It is highly unlikely, no two people are alike, I doubt you will be you again however, you could be a boy, or a girl, someone from Spain, or someone from Jamaica. But I doubt you will be you, and feel the same pain.
My one regret that I will die with is my bf, M... I hope, if I reincarnate in this time, I can find him... and stay with him again, either in this life, or the next.
I hope, in a happier life I can find my friends too... I would like to see them again, as someone not so damaged by child abuse.
If there is no afterlife, then I will... Be a little down, as this was it, and I had to suffer at the hands of my brother and mother,
I grew up in England, and I am gay. I am paranoid, if real; God is going to send me to Hell for stealing things as a teenager, and for loving another boy.
I choose to believe in Buddhist philosophy.
I will reincarnate as another human, and this will play out again, and again, and again till I get it right, and either vastly shift my karmic count, or I extinguish desire entirely and break free of the cycle of Samsara.
Please take heed, you won't live the same life over and and over and over... It is highly unlikely, no two people are alike, I doubt you will be you again however, you could be a boy, or a girl, someone from Spain, or someone from Jamaica. But I doubt you will be you, and feel the same pain.
My one regret that I will die with is my bf, M... I hope, if I reincarnate in this time, I can find him... and stay with him again, either in this life, or the next.
I hope, in a happier life I can find my friends too... I would like to see them again, as someone not so damaged by child abuse.
If there is no afterlife, then I will... Be a little down, as this was it, and I had to suffer at the hands of my brother and mother,
i think once we die , that's it. You can't perceive anything when your brain is dead. So it doesn't scare me as I won't be aware of it so there will be no pain or fear to feel.
However, naturally that is impossible to imagine. So it sort of makes me uneasy to think about and i'm sure it will be worrying in those final moments but once it's done, there's nothing to fear
However, naturally that is impossible to imagine. So it sort of makes me uneasy to think about and i'm sure it will be worrying in those final moments but once it's done, there's nothing to fear
I had a friend that died for like 10 or 20 minutes. And he said that nothing happened during death it was just like going to sleep.
While we still have plenty to learn about the brain, the concept of consciousness is an abstract description for the phenomenon of biochemical function of the brain. We do not understand every aspect of how the brain works yet, but the discussion of philosophical consciousness is a overcomplication and in some ways different matter than neuroscientific observation of electrical functions which causes consciousness.
Regardless whether we agree on that point or not, reincarnation or continued consciousness is not backed by any evidence. The fact that we do not know everything there is to know about brain function or consciousness in no way proves that reincarnation exists, it's a jump in logic. It's like how the ancient Egyptians didn't have an understanding of organic creation, so they believed that Ra, the sun god, created all life.
divinemistress36
Visionary
- Jan 1, 2024
- 2,149
rokonie
Member
- Jun 3, 2024
- 43
im scared of "regretting it" after the fact, but that's silly because i won't be around to regret it if im successful. Other than that, im too scared of the pain that comes with the dying process. It would have to be painless and almost instant (maybe i should have gone down in that submarine lol)
I choose to believe in reincarnation. There's no empirical evidence of its existence; however, there is a fair amount of anecdotal evidence from children recounting their past lives at an early age. Of course, that's not hard evidence.
From a scientific standpoint, the law of conservation states that energy cannot be created or destroyed, simply transferred. We have a certain energy as human beings. Logically speaking, that same energy would transfer into existence as a new human being. Put differently, I don't think our uniquely human energy would somehow devolve from an evolutionary standpoint and have us come back as, say, a house cat.
In terms of suicide/death, I choose to believe this process happens instantaneously. When we die, our bodies simply turn off all biological functions as if you're turning off a giant supercomputer. Your energy has to go somewhere, which leads to being reborn with no real memory of your previous life since you'll have a new brain and a new consciousness. Whether or not there is a period of "nothingness" between lives, I have no clue.
That's just my longwinded belief though.
From a scientific standpoint, the law of conservation states that energy cannot be created or destroyed, simply transferred. We have a certain energy as human beings. Logically speaking, that same energy would transfer into existence as a new human being. Put differently, I don't think our uniquely human energy would somehow devolve from an evolutionary standpoint and have us come back as, say, a house cat.
In terms of suicide/death, I choose to believe this process happens instantaneously. When we die, our bodies simply turn off all biological functions as if you're turning off a giant supercomputer. Your energy has to go somewhere, which leads to being reborn with no real memory of your previous life since you'll have a new brain and a new consciousness. Whether or not there is a period of "nothingness" between lives, I have no clue.
That's just my longwinded belief though.
DeathSkullDude1
Member
- Jun 2, 2024
- 17
Exactly! It would be like a hard reboot in computer jargon.
Same I'm not scared of death. More afraid of the process and pain of dying.
No not really. I do believe in god but I don't believe an all-loving god would create something like a hell. It seems absurd a god would punish people for finite deeds/crimes. Either I will end up in heaven or if god doesn't exist I will cease to exist (the same pre-birth non-existential state). So what difference does it make. Moreover, it seems preposterous to be so afraid of one's own pre-birth so I don't understand all the fear and dramatization of death when you'll simply go back into that (assuming god doesn't exist again).
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Onelegman
I use a translator
- May 24, 2024
- 406
I've read so much about theism, science and other subjects that I'm not afraid at all. The brain shuts off and you're happy, I was on the other side, so to speak, or at least that's what I felt. And I felt complete happiness.
DefinitelyReady
Desperate to go--
- Mar 14, 2024
- 556
Maybe I'm weird, Idk, but my only fear is how the people/animals in my life will fare when I ctb. I don't fear the act of ctb, or what's waiting for me afterward. Not looking forward to ctb as I'm sure it will be emotional and unpleasant af...
thealteredmind
Student
- Apr 2, 2024
- 159
Finalnight
Waiting until it comes
- Aug 16, 2023
- 214
I've read somewhere that our brains keep working after death for 10 minutes, and there's no sense of time while you're unconscious, so this theory suggests those 10 minutes turn into eternity and your consciousness lives there forever after, I have OCD, I can never stop thinking about my obsessions and I'm so scared they will remain with me forever
Mebius
Member
- Jun 13, 2024
- 47
Onelegman
I use a translator
- May 24, 2024
- 406
The moment the heart stops and does not send blood to the brain, it begins to die. Those 10 minutes will not be with a fully functional brain, but rather like a light bulb hooked to a battery that is losing power.
The light bulb will emit less light little by little, the brain will lose certain functions first and then others (the light at the end of the tunnel is usually one of them, the eyes do not receive what they need and it makes it seem like you are in a tunnel) I don't think that It takes too long until the ability to reason is lost.
Maggiemags
Member
- Jun 12, 2024
- 31
I think there is just nothing. When people sustain brain injuries it can fundamentally change their attitude, mobility, and the way they think. We are not concrete people with some soul that defines us or we wouldn't change like that imo. There is no evidence to even prove there is anything after death and religion has always seemed like an extreme coping mechanism to mortality, suicide is too. If there is some form of reincarnation or something after death I just hope it can be something fulfilling and make more sense that being here now. I would hope I'm actually myself and could build a family and have my stupid pointless human life but have it make sense and just feel ok.
Alltheywanted
I'll just lay here and die
- Mar 6, 2023
- 321
Shimidori
make me sad
- Dec 22, 2023
- 39
I have more fear of failing as well.
Once I am dead, I will stop thinking, breathing and feeling, but if anything goes wrong, I'll feel all of the pain I gave myself in the process of ending my life.
Once I am dead, I will stop thinking, breathing and feeling, but if anything goes wrong, I'll feel all of the pain I gave myself in the process of ending my life.
This is why I'm stuck in this hellhole of existence, the fear of the physical and mental agony and pain of CTB with no peaceful options available and that I do think there might be something after we die. I don't think reincarnation, but I think a hell could be waiting. I don't know what people are supposed to do though. The suffering is horrific and people need a way out of their suffering when it's so bad they just can't carry on anymore. I feel like I'm stuck with no way out. That I have to endure the unendurable. It's just so terrifying, all of it, life and death. I just want non existence so badly. There could be the most amazing place waiting and I still wouldn't want it. I just want non existence.
This sounds amazing. All that I wish for.
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