CatLove56

CatLove56

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something I've always wondering especially after hearing the horror stories on here is when you are a danger to yourself police can lock you in a mental hospital against your will. Even if have no intention on hurting anybody else. At least in the u.s. how is that even legal
 
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Cleopatra123

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something I've always wondering especially after hearing the horror stories on here is when you are a danger to yourself police can lock you in a mental hospital against your will. Even if have no intention on hurting anybody else. At least in the u.s. how is that even legal
Add to your question why they are so eager to save someone from suicide, but endlessly put people on the streets who can't take care of themselves, have no food, are delusional, exposed to cold without adequate clothing: are these people not a danger to themselves?
 
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wendydong1

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and abortion is allowed and even encouraged...
 
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Cleopatra123

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and abortion is allowed and even encouraged...
it's mostly the anti-abortion people who are also anti the right to life and death decisions. Pro-lifers, big ideals, except when it comes to charity.
 
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BobbyPellitt

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Add to your question why they are so eager to save someone from suicide, but endlessly put people on the streets who can't take care of themselves, have no food, are delusional, exposed to cold without adequate clothing: are these people not a danger to themselves?
I've heard somewhere that suicide actually cause financial loss.
 
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GeorgeJL

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It's legal because the medical establishment couldn't tell the public the truth that not all suicides are impulsive. They couldn't admit that there is such a thing as a rational logical reasonable suicide. If someone wanted to end their life then it must be a chemical imbalance. From what I've seen that isn't the case all the time.

And/or it's legal because the medical establishment/first responders didn't want to get sued by the family members of the suicidal for not intervening.
 
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TAW122

TAW122

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Aug 30, 2018
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@GeorgeJL pretty much sums it up really well. Furthermore, I'd like to add that some hospitals get a lot of funding as well as profit for locking up suicidal (or even perceived suicidal) people and keeps their cash flow going. As far as additional reasons is that the field of psychiatry and mental health has a slant towards a shitty premise that all suicides are a result of depression or irrational and that anyone who denies the perspective that life is good/life is sacred must be mentally ill. Religion is also a culprit is influencing many of the secular arguments against suicide.

The last sentence is also true as well, just from the fact that the US is a very litigious society, so all parties can and will (try) to sue the institutions (government, medical industry, first responders, etc.) for lack of intervention/prevention. So until the attitude towards how we treat issues and what not are changed, then these people will always err on the side of "I/we don't want to get sued" by family members or other parties of the suicidal person.
 
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marcusuk63

marcusuk63

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Mar 24, 2019
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Because tax evasion is illegal

UK employees pay an average of £1.25 an hour in tax, according to a new analysis of Government revenues. Of this, only 69p of that is in the form of deductions from wages.
The rest is in "indirect" taxation.
An average worker pays £11,000 a year in tax to the Government - around £30 a day.
Indirect taxes, which include VAT, council tax and other duties, account for nearly £5,000 of this, equating to 56p an hour.
National Insurance and income tax account for the remaining £6,000, with the total bill equating to 40pc of average earnings....

Then if you have managed to save any money to leave in your will your benefactors get stung with inheritance tax !!!
 
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Roger

Roger

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In UK the necessary powers to restrict liberty in order to prevent suicide are contained in the Mental Health Act of 1983.

There are similar legal provisions in place in most other countries and states. By way of example, the Baker Act has recently been mentioned elsewhere on this Forum - isn't that a Florida provision ?
 
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Baskol1

Baskol1

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Aug 11, 2019
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it's mostly the anti-abortion people who are also anti the right to life and death decisions. Pro-lifers, big ideals, except when it comes to charity.

Not really, many liberals are huge suicide prevention advocates. While moderate conservatives really dont care.
 
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BPD_LE

BPD_LE

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Aug 11, 2019
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Add to your question why they are so eager to save someone from suicide, but endlessly put people on the streets who can't take care of themselves, have no food, are delusional, exposed to cold without adequate clothing: are these people not a danger to themselves?
YES! THIS RIGHT HERE!
 
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