How has being suicidal impacted your opinion on eugenics especially if you yourself are disabled (any kind of disability)?

[MANGIONESHUSBAND]

I've noticed as I've gotten more and more suicidal as it wains and flows. I've grown more and more comfortable with the idea of eugenics. Partially because I've stopped seeing the value of life and so the idea of sterilizing people to keep them from producing more especially if the child will be born with something horrible just makes sense. I myself am disabled mostly like behaviorally. ADHD possibly autism not sure. And Depression and PTSD. I don't really like my life or my family with similar behavioral issues. It's not nice. I would want to be normal and I always have. Because I'm "on the left" I have to pretend to be disgusted by eugenics but in all honesty I'm not In even overjoyed and excited about it sometimes but I'd never be stupid enough to admit it out loud except in the recesses of my safe spaces. I've learned about the wide range of disabilities and I've just felt disgusted and angry. My general thoughts are that deformity is an evil that we should use what ever social and technological/scientific means to cure and fix. I resent the fact that we love in such a world that even allows for deformity and knowing that has honestly really destroyed my sense of self and my faith in life. You know? I mean crazy enough I've looked at parents who like legit murder their disabled children or caregivers who murder their disabled relatives and I'm almost smiling cuz I'm like "deformity is a rot that poisons society from the inside out and changes everything about your life and makes you miserable". And I know that's not the "progressive" thing to think or whatever but it's fucking true. And in my ideal world if I could make one from scratch I'd get rid of it. I'm saying this as a disabled person. I'm quite friendly to the idea of eugenics and I've gotten more friendly as I've grown more suicidal. Because like the world isn't getting better for disabled people and so it makes sense why someone even someone with all the right "progressive programming" on disabilities would actively try their best not to have a disabled child. I remember I saw this ad where people were like "have your best baby" and everyone got mad because "EuGeNiCs". But I adored it. Because let's face it we live in a world where forced brother and pro life nonsense is push on us more and more and so people are having babies they don't want. It makes sense why people would genetically engineer a child who is as easy as possible to deal with and not disabled so they child they never wanted in the first place can have the best chance of getting their ass out of the house as soon as their 18 and then go on home with their lives. Just with realizing that life doesn't have much value and realizing how awful life really is even worse with disabilities. I have come more to appreciate eugenics as an idea. Saw a TikTok of a guy who was like "I don't want an autistic child" bro no one does. That makes sense. I wouldn't want to have a gay child in Saudi Arabia because that would be torture for them. It's just not a good thing to be different unfortunately that's how life is. And as I've grown older I've become more and more comfortable with the idea of eugenics. So if you're reading this. How has being suicidal impacted your opinion on eugenics?

 

[aRose]

if society was kinder to the disabled it wouldn't be such a burden on the disabled to exist.
I kinda look at it like - I can eugenics myself but you can't eugenics me.
I reproduced and so far my offspring are fine. Making the assumption and taking the risk was my choice, not others.

 

[Dumbass]

Oddly enough my opinion on eugenics hasn't been changed from my suicidality, I kind of see it the way aRose sees it. Like I'm living in Canada and part of me is excited for MAID to expand in 2027 because it would hopefully be useful for me, but another part of me sees it as a bad thing because it further perpetuates eugenics in Canada by offering a (possibly) easier method of dying rather than getting help or proper accommodations etc.

 

[MANGIONESHUSBAND]

if society was kinder to the disabled it wouldn't be such a burden on the disabled to exist.
I kinda look at it like - I can eugenics myself but you can't eugenics me.
I reproduced and so far my offspring are fine. Making the assumption and taking the risk was my choice, not others.

For some disabilities yes but fundamentally like at the same time I don't think anyone wants something like cystic fibrosis or chronic fatigue I think making it so those conditions cease to exist and propagate as soon as possible is just good for humanity

 

[aRose]

For some disabilities yes but fundamentally like at the same time I don't think anyone wants something like cystic fibrosis or chronic fatigue I think making it so those conditions cease to exist and propagate as soon as possible is just good for humanity

Yes I don't totally disagree. There's a lot of books and philosophy to explore on the topic. I've met plenty of ppl with issues I couldn't imagine living with and yet somehow they are fine with it. I wish I could be fine with what I'm dealing with but I just can't manage that.
I know I passed on a LIKELIHOOD of my kid having issues but I hope they will be ok.

 

[overmorrow]

stop their suffering, it's not worth it to live for an average human, imagine for someone disabled.

 

[itsgone2]

It's not just disabled. Many people shouldn't be allowed to breed. But how to know who? I should not have been here. Both grandfathers had anger issues. My dad had anger issues. In hindsight I was hopeless. But how to select that out? Criminals? Ok good start but so many mental disorders to screen for. The disabled are the least harmful here. Get rid of criminals and head cases like me and you have a better society for the disabled anyway.

 

[hurb]

I think people should just be given the choice but governments are tryna go back being controlling af , and mfs like trump are pushing back for religion because it sedates peoples brain and make them easy to control like sheep.
I mean u got people that are still against abortion for fuck sake. we are so far behind as society. i feel like the moment biden irreversibly hurt the democratic party by being brain dead and now trump winning was the worst thing that ever happened to our society. now u got people normalising fascim and calling racism a difference of opinion