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JustFloatingEnergy

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Aug 22, 2019
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Hey everyone.

I need to know if it's possible to ctb using sleeping pills. And if so, then how effective is it, how much should you take, how much time does it take for you to die.
I couldn't find anything about this in the ressource compilation so I'm asking here.
Any other tips and information about this would be welcome.

I need to know ASAP. Thank you.
 
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Mar 1, 2020
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It's not easy to overdose with modern prescription sleeping tablets like Zolpidem or Zopiclone. You're likely to just throw up, to be honest. You might do bizarre or dangerous things (like sleep driving) and find you have no memory of it after the effects wear off.

Benzodiazepine is probably more effective as it reduces your ability to breath. I can't imagine that would be a quick and easy way to go.
 
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Jan 28, 2020
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Hi! Bad idea, can you tell me the name and dose of the script? It will help me and others figure out something. So basically I would say no, don't do it. A test was made called ddmp in euthansia circles, it consisted of 5g morphine, 5g, diazepam, 1g propranolol and digoxin. 20%(ish, not sure on the number tbh) of people still didn't die. So just sleeping tablets aren't gonna cut it i'm afraid, it might....but if it fails you get oxygen deprivation and can't feel your toes/fingers. I advise another option, just look around the site
 
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JustFloatingEnergy

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Aug 22, 2019
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thank you for the replies.
Hi! Bad idea, can you tell me the name and dose of the script? It will help me and others figure out something. So basically I would say no, don't do it. A test was made called ddmp in euthansia circles, it consisted of 5g morphine, 5g, diazepam, 1g propranolol and digoxin. 20%(ish, not sure on the number tbh) of people still didn't die. So just sleeping tablets aren't gonna cut it i'm afraid, it might....but if it fails you get oxygen deprivation and can't feel your toes/fingers. I advise another option, just look around the site
I cant really give you that because this is not for me. A friend of mine told me she was gonna ctb by taking sleeping pills right now and then just left. I can't call her or get in touch in any way. I'm really worried that it's gonna fail.
Another question i have in mind now is: If it fails or succeeds will the cops investigate me because she told me she will do it? When she told me she will i told her to wait so that we can do it together but she didn't reply and just left. Does this count as a crime?
 
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thank you for the replies.

I cant really give you that because this is not for me. A friend of mine told me she was gonna ctb by taking sleeping pills right now and then just left. I can't call her or get in touch in any way. I'm really worried that it's gonna fail.
Another question i have in mind now is: If it fails or succeeds will the cops investigate me because she told me she will do it? When she told me she will i told her to wait so that we can do it together but she didn't reply and just left. Does this count as a crime?
It's a likely failure. Well shit, idk. Likely not invigate you unless they get the admins, which hasn't happened before. I wouldn't worry, it was her choice no-one led her into it?, if a success then maybe expect a knock, clean house. , scrub phone /Pcs if possible.
edit: I'm sorry this happened, do you know where she got the info from?
 
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JustFloatingEnergy

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Aug 22, 2019
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It's a likely failure. Well shit, idk. Likely not invigate you unless they get the admins, which hasn't happened before. I wouldn't worry, it was her choice no-one led her into it?, if a success then maybe expect a knock, clean house. , scrub phone /Pcs if possible.
edit: I'm sorry this happened, do you know where she got the info from?
I'm sorry but what does "unless they get the admins" mean? U mean the admins to this forum? Because she called me on the phone and texted me before she left so that's what I'm worried about.
I do not know where she got the info from, but i know she didn't really care much and didn't do any research. So i assume she heard about it somewhere and just went for it because she just wanted to die and not think about anything else.
 
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I mean if her attempt is successful (highly unlikely), then LE(law enforcement) are called in, they would need the admins co-operation to tie your IP to your username right?
Okay texts and phone goes through your phone provider, the cops will need a big (budget wise) case on you til they come down with anything. Your good. Did you advise her to seek medical help or something like it's your choice?
All this will play a big part of if (again highly unlikely) you are called to a trial etc, it probably won't happen. Leave a voicemail just in case. But do not panic. You are not at fault.
edit: as much as I respect people right to choose, I think this was a poorly planned act that could warrant contacting someone close to her. Idk man it's your decision at the end of the day
 
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JustFloatingEnergy

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Aug 22, 2019
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I mean if her attempt is successful (highly unlikely), then LE(law enforcement) are called in, they would need the admins co-operation to tie your IP to your username right?
Okay texts and phone goes through your phone provider, the cops will need a big (budget wise) case on you til they come down with anything. Your good. Did you advise her to seek medical help or something like it's your choice?
All this will play a big part of if (again highly unlikely) you are called to a trial etc, it probably won't happen. Leave a voicemail just in case. But do not panic. You are not at fault.
Yes i've talked to her about seeing a psychiatrist before and everything.
But isn't easy for the cops to get to me? They will find my texts with her and my phone number, and all they have to do is ask her parents who is this guy or something, cuz we live just a couple of blocks away from each other and they likely have my number as well since i've met them a few times.
I'm sorry but this really got me worried and anxious, not only for the fact that there is a chance that she went through with it, but also that she could have failed, and that i could be linked to her suicide.
Thank you for all the information.
 
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there was one one I was texting someone before an attempt. no one called or messaged them after the fact
 
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Jan 28, 2020
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Yes i've talked to her about seeing a psychiatrist before and everything.
But isn't easy for the cops to get to me? They will find my texts with her and my phone number, and all they have to do is ask her parents who is this guy or something, cuz we live just a couple of blocks away from each other and they likely have my number as well since i've met them a few times.
I'm sorry but this really got me worried and anxious, not only for the fact that there is a chance that she went through with it, but also that she could have failed, and that i could be linked to her suicide.
Thank you for all the information.
I really am sorry I didn't mean to make you anxious, I just look at everything from a risk or opsec point of view.
So the story is, you tried to help. They can find the texts if it is successful (probably wont), the cops could ask you to talk if it was successful but your under no obligation to talk. And if that ever happens (most likely won't), there is evidence that you tried to help. If this attempt is in progress I personally would go to the physical place and look out, say she invited you or whatever to the parents and see how she is. If she chokes on vomit or whatever she might live with bad results (nerve damage).
I'm trying really hard to balance her choice and me telling you to stop that, so I leave it to you, you know her best.
If successful deny deny deny.
If failure provide evidence of how you tried to help.

This is a really horrible situation and I honestly can't think of anything else. Keep us updated
 
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JustFloatingEnergy

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Aug 22, 2019
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I really am sorry I didn't mean to make you anxious, I just look at everything from a risk or opsec point of view.
So the story is, you tried to help. They can find the texts if it is successful (probably wont), the cops could ask you to talk if it was successful but your under no obligation to talk. And if that ever happens (most likely won't), there is evidence that you tried to help. If this attempt is in progress I personally would go to the physical place and look out, say she invited you or whatever to the parents and see how she is. If she chokes on vomit or whatever she might live with bad results (nerve damage).
I'm trying really hard to balance her choice and me telling you to stop that, so I leave it to you, you know her best.
If successful deny deny deny.
If failure provide evidence of how you tried to help.

This is a really horrible situation and I honestly can't think of anything else. Keep us updated
Update: I managed to get in touch with her parents and turns out she is fine. She didn't go through with it, thankfully. Such a relief.
Thank you for all the information and help, I'm really sorry for all of this.
I will try to talk to her and respect her choice, I'll show her this forum so she can at least do it in a safer way.
 
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