How do you reframe ctb in positive terms?

[Ambivalent1]

I don't want to die feeling sad and like a failure.

 

[symphony]

CTB is an act of taking control of your destiny. You get to choose when and how your story ends.

 

[OceanBlue]

1. If you're child-free, be proud of yourself that you never condemned others to death. This is the most important achievement in this world.

2. You can see it as self-care, you are protecting yourself from future harms. It's taking responsibility for your life, instead of floating with the SI current.

3.You are leaving a toxic situation behind, which you have a right to do (funnily enough therapists often repeat this without understanding what it entails)

4.Remember you were born without consent. You didn't choose your appearance or personality, you are not responsible for what your life has turned out to be like.


Hope it helps.

 

[leavingsoon99]

For me, personally, I'm leaving hell. A lot of people contemplate ctb because of some type of longing to belong. While I did want that at one time, I'm deciding to terminate because of the absurdities of life itself. At least, in my eyes. My termination is the culmination of years of trauma and interactions with humans. I look at this world that doesn't mind seeing someone starve to death on the sidewalk fight like hell to 'prevent' death by suicide. There must be something to that. This world is almost totally backwards and habitually produces its own suffering. Humans couldn't care less about someone who isn't doing something for them. Yet, they are absolutely against suicide. There must be some sort of power to be gained from leaving by one's own hand. As if you're really taking away power from something. I'm not playing ball.

I'm actually excited about closing my own book. There's power in that. There's strength in that. But, that's just my narrative. I'm sure some 'life-warrior' will believe differently. And that's their right to do so. It won't change my mind.

I'm sorry you're feeling sad. I hope that my perspective is, at minimum, interesting to you if it can't bring a smile to your face.

 

[OceanBlue]

I look at this world that doesn't mind seeing someone starve to death on the sidewalk fight like hell to 'prevent' death by suicide. There must be something to that. This world is almost totally backwards and habitually produces its own suffering.

Exactly, they love hell because they are the devils - they want us to stay and be like them. There's a lot of courage in saying "no".

 

[NoLightRemains]

I saw a user title on SS once that said "Suicide is self-care" and it really stuck with me. My CTB will be an act of caring enough about myself to solve my problems the only way I believe is possible at this point.

 

[Ambivalent1]

1. If you're child-free, be proud of yourself that you never condemned others to death. This is the most important achievement in this world.

2. You can see it as self-care, you are protecting yourself from future harms. It's taking responsibility for your life, instead of floating with the SI current.

3.You are leaving a toxic situation behind, which you have a right to do (funnily enough therapists often repeat this without understanding what it entails)

4.Remember you were born without consent. You didn't choose your appearance or personality, you are not responsible for what your life has turned out to be like.


Hope it helps.

That's great.

Exactly, they love hell because they are the devils - they want us to stay and be like them. There's a lot of courage in saying "no".

Ctb is a form of power?

 

[Kundalini Guy]

It's like a permanent release and cure to all pains and suffering. No doctor nor scientist can ever deny that.

 

[WorthlessTrash]

Solving the "me" problem decisively.

 

[scamper]

Soon there will be nothing I can do to fix my life and, to put it simply, since I'm going to be unhappy for the most of my life at that point, I'd rather not be around to see it. Death is a preferable alternative to a generally unhappy life, where the positives would stop outweighing the negatives and it's not worth it anymore.

 

[tams]

In a sadist sense, I revel in the discomfort and pain it will cause others. The unanswered questions and analyzation of interactions that will trouble their minds. Not those who were good to me, but those who caused me pain or wronged me in any sense, even imagined. That gives me some comfort before I depart this place.

 

[NoLoveNoHope]

Quietly exiting the game of life.

 

[borderline-feline]

I think it can be an act of bravery and self-love, as you're taking a stand and getting rid of your pain.

 

[warriorofeld]

Ctb will help me avoid way more pain in the immediate future. It's the ultimate ninja smoke bomb

 

[Pluto]

I view it as an act of altruism. Gracefully accepting my inability to make a meaningful contribution, giving away all that I have for the enrichment of others, ceasing being a part of humanity's overpopulated onslaught of its ecosystem and no longer being a burden on others for carrying so many 'unresolved issues'.

 

[Ambivalent1]

I view it as an act of altruism. Gracefully accepting my inability to make a meaningful contribution, giving away all that I have for the enrichment of others, ceasing being a part of humanity's overpopulated onslaught of its ecosystem and no longer being a burden on others for carrying so many 'unresolved issues'.

How does one convey that sentiment to others? Maybe we could be viewed as martyrs for Earth. Our bodies will merge back into the planet giving it strength like Goku's spirit bomb to defeat pro-lifers through climate change. Our combined energy will heat the planet.

 

[Forever Sleep]

From a personal perspective, I see it as the ultimate act of self determination. I have to firstly say that the upset it may cause my family and friends deeply troubles me- which is mainly why I'm still here. Beyond that though- ultimately- I don't want to be a slave. I'm a slave to my physical body- it's just going to further deteriorate and cause me pain. I'm a slave to this society and capitalism- I'm sick of working to make rich people richer. I'm a slave to what's expected of me- to just keep living and struggling- despite what I want. I'm a slave to my own biology and SI- evolution has made it so that my body itself and the primative part of my brain is terrified to die...

Well- screw all that! (Hopefully...) I've always liked it when I've been decisive in life and taken action to try and solve whatever quagmire I was in. In the end though- life is the quagmire. You 'solve' one problem only to be presented with three more. Or- it's just the boring trudgery of just about getting by. When it's REALLY not for me anymore- I hope I have the strength to quit. I want to die on my own terms- not be tormented by fate/God/nature. They've had their wicked way with my life- I'm not giving them/it the sadistic pleasure of defining how painful and drawn out my death will be as well. (That's if there is some greater force behind it all. If there isn't and it's all just arbitrary- then- beyond the tiny circle of people my life impacts- my suicide won't make any difference. All I can- and am doing is waiting until that circle of people who would care gets small enough for me to feel like my pain in living is greater than theirs in my dying.)

 

[FuneralCry]

To me the thought of permanently exiting this world is already something that is incredibly positive, I mean there is nothing that could be more beautiful and ideal than being able to sleep forever with this life being completely forgotten about. All the suffering and torment that existing brings won't even exist as a distant memory and suicide prevents all future problems in a world where all that lies ahead is loss and decay with unlimited potential for us to suffer. To me death is the only relief when the fate of human beings is to be tortured by old age, I see it as being irrational to wish to be burdened with existence, to exist is something that is harmful and unnecessary.

 

[Anonymus]

Personally it is the confirmation of my failure when it comes to living, I do not know how to alleviate this feeling... well, at least I try, I tell myself that this is how things must happen from a deterministic point of view, I accept this even if it is like picking up a red hot iron "it is not that I want to kill myself, it is that it must be like this".

I guess that's why I keep repeating to myself that there is no such thing as free will, it's a mantra like any other. Self-conviction is a technique that some of us use to cope with this, we will repeat it to ourselves a thousand times and a thousand more until we manage to assure ourselves that this is the only thing that should happen.

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Personalment és la constatació de meu fracàs alhora de viure, no se pas com alleugir aquest sensació.. bé, si que ho intento almenys, em dic a mi mateix que es com han de passar les coses desde un punt de vista determinista, i m'agafo a això com si agafés un ferro roent "no es que em vulgui matar, es que ha de ser així".

Suposo que per això no em paro de repetir que no existeix el lliure albir, és un mantra com el de qualsevol altre. La autoconvicció és una tècnica que fem servir alguns de nosaltres per fer front a això, ens ho repetirem mil vegades i mil més fins que aconseguim assegurar-nos que és l'únic que hauria de passar.

 

[hellispink]

There is nothing wrong with non existing. It is actually better than suffering. Death is a human decision and it is okay to let go. Not always we need to die of pain here forever. You didn't knew nothing before you had a capable consciousness. The same happens after death there is a lack of anything there is nothing. You got nothing to fear.

 

[Catastrofe]

I am trying - with mixed results - to see my suicidal thoughts as a part of myself that is trying to tell me something. Like that I am angry because mistreared, that I do not find some things fair, that I am exhausted of fighting, that I would like sometimes to be loved ... the hurted and tired part of me. That is screaming out loud at the moment.

 

[charlotte_]

To me, death is just going back home. We are all formed in the void, then dragged out into this race called life, and then go back there once again. As people said: "Home is where you go back to.". Everyone will rejoice with death at the end of their race. Though many fear it, the thought of being able to sleep comfortably without anything to ever trouble you again is very warming to me. Peaceful and quiet, where you no longer have to force yourself to be anyone or do anything. That's how home supposed to look like, am I right?

 

[MyLifeisHell]

Ultimate exercise in autonomy and agency that have always been denied me in life.

 

[unnormal9]

When the dream ends, so will the wind speak.

 

[brainkiller]

when i am dead, things for me will cease their decline and the issues plaguing me will never reach their worst stage. if i die, i will no longer be on the trajectory for countless horrors and realizations. it is protecting myself from tomorrow, future-proofing in a way.

 

[thecolourgold]

This is a great thread. I could read everyone's comments over and over. Everyone has different reasons and I really relate with a lot of these.