How do you define human existence?

[ABadPerson]

To 'exist' is defined as being in a state of objective reality, as in something that exists independent of external perception; however, the human consciousness doesn't fit this description of existence as it is influenced and shaped by perception, so how would one define their own existence/lackof?

We perceive reality through it, or rather 'us', yet it only is 'proven' in relation to the world as an ongoing act of interpretation; a phenomenon rather than something that is objectively real in its own right.

Could one say the human mind doesn't exist in any concrete capacity, as it only experiences rather than having its own objectivity? Or, I guess it would be better to say semi-existence; a false illusion that falsifies itself into reality through external factors altered by our bodies, reflecting 'existence' instead of 'existing' in any real sense of the term.

Every single thought and belief is built on neural activity and external feedback that creates a stable illusion of 'I', our consciousness cannot continue on without these reinforcements without complete collapse.

Ironically, the act of pretending it is coherent and stable is what leads to it being able to manifest into semi-existence in the first place, fictionalising its own reality through rewritten realities like memories and values. The body dreams of self, the self 'perceives' reality and builds it therefore 'I' believes the 'self' must exist in this reality.

We believe we exist, so we must do exist; how absurd.

Edit: Wrote this as I was having a mental breakdown helped a bit with the depressive spiral, less of a rant and more of an attempt to define what 'I' am. I wasn't really sure if I should post it here or move it to Offtopic but I felt it was more appropriate to stay here.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

life or existence = ability and possibility to suffer extreme torture or to suffer immensely

non-existence forever = never any suffering no pain no problems no bad memories.

Non-existence forever is better than being alive

 

[nails]

nishi pfp, that's my goat he was my pfp for a while.

but anyway, reading your thoughts was very interesting. i think about these things pretty often, i read up on different philosophical theories and even took a class on it, but i'm too stupid and scatterbrained to put anything into words.

 

[ABadPerson]

life or existence = ability and possibility to suffer extreme torture or to suffer immensely

non-existence forever = never any suffering no pain no problems no bad memories.

Non-existence forever is better than being alive

Feel the same. Always seemed as though I am mentally non-existent, atleast.

nishi pfp, that's my goat he was my pfp for a while.

but anyway, reading your thoughts was very interesting. i think about these things pretty often, i read up on different philosophical theories and even took a class on it, but i'm too stupid and scatterbrained to put anything into words.

Gantz is one of my most favourite mangas of all time rn, and when making this account I particularly thought of Nishi as a perfect pfp. I'm glad to see there's more Gantz enjoyers here, I was originally recommended it by one.

Also, I get that completely as I usually struggle with interpreting my own mind, I just get weird sense of clarity whenever I'm having a bad mental breakdown which is pretty often I suppose; just makes it easier putting down what I'm thinking much easier, genuinely cool to hear that someone who took philosophy classes enjoyed reading this.

 

[nails]

Gantz is one of my most favourite mangas of all time rn, and when making this account I particularly thought of Nishi as a perfect pfp. I'm glad to see there's more Gantz enjoyers here, I was originally recommended it by one.

Also, I get that completely as I usually struggle with interpreting my own mind, I just get weird sense of clarity whenever I'm having a bad mental breakdown which is pretty often I suppose; just makes it easier putting down what I'm thinking much easier, genuinely cool to hear that someone who took philosophy classes enjoyed reading this.

hell yeah, i love gantz nishi is literally one of my favorite fictional characters of all time, i relate to him a lot

and i understand that, i hope that writing these thoughts out is something that brings you some relief. i'm also at a point where i'm having mental breakdowns pretty often, so i know how hard it is. wishing you the best

 

[Terrible_Life_99]

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To 'exist' is defined as being in a state of objective reality, as in something that exists independent of external perception; however, the human consciousness doesn't fit this description of existence as it is influenced and shaped by perception, so how would one define their own existence/lackof?

We perceive reality through it, or rather 'us', yet it only is 'proven' in relation to the world as an ongoing act of interpretation; a phenomenon rather than something that is objectively real in its own right.

Could one say the human mind doesn't exist in any concrete capacity, as it only experiences rather than having its own objectivity? Or, I guess it would be better to say semi-existence; a false illusion that falsifies itself into reality through external factors altered by our bodies, reflecting 'existence' instead of 'existing' in any real sense of the term.

Every single thought and belief is built on neural activity and external feedback that creates a stable illusion of 'I', our consciousness cannot continue on without these reinforcements without complete collapse.

Ironically, the act of pretending it is coherent and stable is what leads to it being able to manifest into semi-existence in the first place, fictionalising its own reality through rewritten realities like memories and values. The body dreams of self, the self 'perceives' reality and builds it therefore 'I' believes the 'self' must exist in this reality.

We believe we exist, so we must do exist; how absurd.

Edit: Wrote this as I was having a mental breakdown helped a bit with the depressive spiral, less of a rant and more of an attempt to define what 'I' am. I wasn't really sure if I should post it here or move it to Offtopic but I felt it was more appropriate to stay here.

Its a damn lottery!
So many important things are there that form once personality, his mental and even physical health that the person can't choose.
Some have luck and some don't.

 

[58Alice85]

All of science, neurology and psychology can not give a satisfying answer to this question.
The flesh parasite, that is the body relies upon the immaterial ghost to keep it alive.
The physical body relies upon the immaterial consciousness to keep it alive not the other way around.
St Seraphim once said intelligence is held down and slowed down by the brain.
Eventually you start seeing a certain kind of intelligence behind nature, and you must at least admit God exists. (Christ is God)
St Maximus the Confessor said through contemplation of created beings the God of this world reveals himself.