Help How do people find out about suicide methods?

[EmptyManForever]

Especially celebrities who hung themselves, I mean how did they know how to do it properly? How did they know how to tie the knot? Is this common sense? I dont think they talked about it with someone , since nobody talks about suicide and no one will encourage a suicidal person , and I also dont think they used the internet to find out, so how did they know how to hang themselves? How does a person "know" how to hang yourself without looking it up on Google or asking someone else for advice on how to do it , ? It really puzzles me, I'm a noob and if it wasn't for the internet I wouldn't find out the hanging method ,I even had to look it up on google on how to tie the knot properly, but people in the past managed to hang themselves without the internet, but how did they find out how to do it properly? Or am I missing something here? Like do they teach you these things at school or something? I really doubt that as well , I feel like a complete loser meaning that I had to look up how to hang myself on the internet, but others like many celebrities and even ordinary people hang themselves without any help from anything, but how did they (in your opinion) find out how to do this (hanging)? I'm probably the biggest noob right now but I also need an answer to these questions I'm having , I also keep thinking what if there was no such thing as the internet , how would I find out how to hang myself? Other methods are not accessible or are painful, but hanging is the only option for me , just imagine if I didn't ever find out about how to hang myself properly, I would never be able to escape this hell , I dunno I'm just losing it right now with these thoughts , any help is appreciated, thanks

 

[WornOutLife]

I bet some celebrities browse on websites like SS.
However, it's amazing how decisive they are and how many guts they have. I just couldn't go for it so easily.

 

[Neowise]

I occasionally wonder the same.

 

[strangeceleste]

I was reading a website which listed all the reported suicides in the UK. Most the teenagers died by hanging, and even those as young as 11/12, and I can't help but wonder how. But I guess when there's a will there's a way, and the internet has a lot of sources outside of this site / media portrayal maybe?

 

[TessB]

Especially celebrities who hung themselves, I mean how did they know how to do it properly? How did they know how to tie the knot? Is this common sense? I dont think they talked about it with someone , since nobody talks about suicide and no one will encourage a suicidal person , and I also dont think they used the internet to find out, so how did they know how to hang themselves? How does a person "know" how to hang yourself without looking it up on Google or asking someone else for advice on how to do it , ? It really puzzles me, I'm a noob and if it wasn't for the internet I wouldn't find out the hanging method ,I even had to look it up on google on how to tie the knot properly, but people in the past managed to hang themselves without the internet, but how did they find out how to do it properly? Or am I missing something here? Like do they teach you these things at school or something? I really doubt that as well , I feel like a complete loser meaning that I had to look up how to hang myself on the internet, but others like many celebrities and even ordinary people hang themselves without any help from anything, but how did they (in your opinion) find out how to do this (hanging)? I'm probably the biggest noob right now but I also need an answer to these questions I'm having , I also keep thinking what if there was no such thing as the internet , how would I find out how to hang myself? Other methods are not accessible or are painful, but hanging is the only option for me , just imagine if I didn't ever find out about how to hang myself properly, I would never be able to escape this hell , I dunno I'm just losing it right now with these thoughts , any help is appreciated, thanks

I completely agree. I always wonder the same. Like Robin Williams hung himself didn't he? He obviously got it exactly right.. so then how come it seems so hard? And I wonder how Caroline Flack did it?

 

[strangeceleste]

I completely agree. I always wonder the same. Like Robin Williams hung himself didn't he? He obviously got it exactly right.. so then how come it seems so hard? And I wonder how Caroline Flack did it?

I read Caroline's was hanging. The one I think about a lot is Alex George's little brother but there seems to be no report of method anywhere

 

[alown]

I completely agree. I always wonder the same. Like Robin Williams hung himself didn't he? He obviously got it exactly right.. so then how come it seems so hard? And I wonder how Caroline Flack did it?

I think it depends if it's hanging is partial or complete.

I think the most successful hangings are complete hangings like Robin's. Going back is not possible even if the body, which fights the mind, wants to go back out of survival instinct.

 

[KuriGohan&Kamehameha]

I think lots of old books and films depicted suicide in detail, until the press put into place very strict laws around how suicide could be shown in media.

I watched a documentary about other suicidal uni students, and one of the poor blokes in the film ended up ctb using a very obscure type of poison. Any news articles as well as the filmmakers refused to disclose what this was. I had to dig up a coroner's report just to find out what type of poison he died from.

They do this to limit suicide contagion, at least that's what they say their rationale is. However, I have seen plenty of ancient books that depict hanging and how it is carried out, so I think it's safe to say that there is too much information out there already in regards to hanging. It is pretty hard to censor or limit depictions of that method simply because of how prevelant it has been in the past.

I did read some interesting articles about celebrities in the early 20th century who ctb, because I was curious about this topic as well. Apparently many movie stars in the 1920s and 30s were buying heavy painkillers coupled with bottles of strong alcohol over the counter with no regulations whatsoever, so a lot of them went out that way. Hard to imagine such an unrestricted world in the times we live in now.

 

[yeahwellso]

I mean how did they know how to do it properly? How did they know how to tie the knot? Is this common sense?

Yes, it is common sense. It takes almost zero competence to "do it properly", and any marginally functional person above 5 years of age is able to tie a knot. "Success" with hanging comes entirely down to commitment. If you tie a rope or makeshift rope to a weak anchor, or if your rope or makeshift rope is so weak that it breaks, it's because your attempt was impulsive and you put zero functional thought into it. If you go for partial hanging, it's not because you somehow lack the opportunity to go for full suspension (you don't lack that opportunity – no-one lacks it), it's because you want to be able to stop yourself. With full suspension, once you step off there is nothing you can do to reverse your decision.

and I also dont think they used the internet to find out

Why??? Why wouldn't they have?

so how did they know how to hang themselves?

Everyone knows how to hang themselves. There's nothing to "learn". When people look it up online, it's just to try to get used to the thought. It's just to see reminders that they're not the only ones thinking about doing it.

How does a person "know" how to hang yourself without looking it up on Google or asking someone else for advice on how to do it

Because it's an incredibly simple concept. There's nothing you need to "learn".

 

[Mara09]

There's plenty of stuff on the internet and even books, we don't exactly have an information shortage in the 21st century

 

[Toptock]

I mean really when a person's shown a noose they'll try to figure it out. It's a knot. When I first saw a noose I distinctly remember attempting to make one just to know how it worked. There wasn't any malice behind it, I just liked tying and untying knots. But I guess once you say "I'm learning to tie a hangmans noose" the nuns will lose their minds. Catholic school, man.

 

[Last chance]

I think a lot of them don't research it,they don't over think it,they don't know the ins and outs of exactly how it will happen so they can't anticipate it.
They just do it.

I think it's why a lot of people get stuck in limbo on this site,it becomes a project or a hobby. Sometimes ignorance is bliss as well as motivation.

 

[Toptock]

I think a lot of them don't research it,they don't over think it,they don't know the ins and outs of exactly how it will happen so they can't anticipate it.
They just do it.

I think it's why a lot of people get stuck in limbo on this site,it becomes a project or a hobby. Sometimes ignorance is bliss as well as motivation.

I had a friend who killed himself in the 9th grade, he had no prior knowledge in how to tie a noose, but he figured it out. You're absolutely right, doesn't take much experience, sometimes it's just motivation.

 

[Last chance]

I had a friend who killed himself in the 9th grade, he had no prior knowledge in how to tie a noose, but he figured it out. You're absolutely right, doesn't take much experience, sometimes it's just motivation.

I think if I hadn't seen what an actual hanging looks like and didn't know the stages of what happens when you do it I would be much more likely to have done it by now.

 

[Toptock]

That's unfortunately the case for a lot of people. Once we see it, once we understand how different the process of dying is from what we anticipate, we become offended in some way by the idea. But the thing is, these methods involve only a small amount of discomfort compared to what they're supposed to bring. Like condensing the suffering of potential decades into a few extended minutes.

 

[BrokenArrow]

but others like many celebrities and even ordinary people hang themselves without any help from anything

How do you know they did it "without help from anything"? Lol, celebrities ARE allowed to use the internet as well. Of course they probably looked it up. There's an entire rundown of how to hang yourself a few clicks away on suicidewiki.com. You don't even need an account to view this information. There's a heap of Quora threads on suicide methods. Who's to say celebrities didn't look at this info before? Did you personally review Robin Williams's internet search history and come to this conclusion?

There's books, websites, scenes in movies, word of mouth - suicide is fairly well ingrained in our culture, despite how we try to avoid talking about it.

 

[Toptock]

suicide is fairly well ingrained in our culture, despite how we try to avoid talking about it.

Right? Just look at David Carradine. I don't think anyone will die of asphyxiation without his wrinkled pale face dominating peoples screens. Now anytime someone hangs themselves the first thing people think is "Oh were they jerking it?"

edit: if you didn't have this thought .02 seconds when you found out Williams hung himself I'll call you a liar.

 

[Last chance]

That's unfortunately the case for a lot of people. Once we see it, once we understand how different the process of dying is from what we anticipate, we become offended in some way by the idea. But the thing is, these methods involve only a small amount of discomfort compared to what they're supposed to bring. Like condensing the suffering of potential decades into a few extended minutes.

Exactly,I think the key is to be unconscious as quickly as possible. Also when you're dead it's not like you can look back and think "fuck that hurt".

 

[Toptock]

Exactly,I think the key is to be unconscious as quickly as possible. Also when you're dead it's not like you can look back and think "fuck that hurt".

Otherwise, what's the point?

 

[Anonymous_A]

Never looked into hanging personally, but I was watching peaky blinders recently. Arthur tries to hang himself, which he fails.

Anyways only by watching this I literally figured how hanging works /how somebody attempts to hang them self.

Ngl, if things were real bad. I guess a load of coke/reccys and alcohol just before attempting to hang that way.

(iirc, Mike from Love island did so)

 

[EmptyManForever]

Yes, it is common sense. It takes almost zero competence to "do it properly", and any marginally functional person above 5 years of age is able to tie a knot.

The only knot I ever knew was the knot you tie in the shoelace ,which I dont think is ideal for hanging right? If you are saying any marginally functional person above 5 years can tie the "knot" for hanging ,then I may have been not a marginally functional person because i really didn't know how to tie the proper knot for hanging ,i had to get it right , then i looked it up , it was the simple noose, and yea it's simple to tie it but I was too dumb to figure it out for myself (on my own) ,if I had hung myself without any help from the net I would've probably done it wrong

 

[Phoenix]

I'm 28 and can barely tie my own shoelaces! a knot to hang myself would probably be impossible. Always struggled tying things/making knots since I was a child, no idea why. if I could I'd of been dead years ago

 

[happylilsht]

Yea I don't think there's anything to just hanging urself anyone can do it with the right spot and rope or stepping off a building or shooting urself in the head there's nothing to learn only the complex methods like SN that u need to know every step hanging is basic 101 suicide method

 

[popcorn]

I completely agree. I always wonder the same. Like Robin Williams hung himself didn't he? He obviously got it exactly right.. so then how come it seems so hard? And I wonder how Caroline Flack did it?

robin williams starred in a scene where the character hung themselves. specifically wrapping a towel around the noose to make it easier on the neck, this is what he did

moments before this he tried to slit his wrists with a pocket knife, obviously this didnt work because it never works so thts why he did the hanging. this leads me to believe it was just lucky second attempt