Help How can I find somebody who will help me with doing N IV?

[Ssrejisser]

I couldn't drink the N (liquid form) yet, and I think not much will change. I am sick and I need help to have someone administer N in me, or hook up the IV and I would release the medication myself. Please help, in any way you can. Every day is more pointless. I am in the US.

Where else can I ask this question? Any other platforms?

 

[Rachel74]

@gingerplum is a nurse so she could help you if she knows. Or anyone who shoots up H. Sadly I can't help you but someone will.

I couldn't drink the N (liquid form) yet, and I think not much will change. I am sick and I need help to have someone administer N in me, or hook up the IV and I would release the medication myself. Please help, in any way you can. Every day is more pointless. I am in the US.

Where else can I ask this question? Any other platforms?

Is it the taste putting you off?

 

[Barelyhuman]

I couldn't drink the N (liquid form) yet, and I think not much will change. I am sick and I need help to have someone administer N in me, or hook up the IV and I would release the medication myself. Please help, in any way you can. Every day is more pointless. I am in the US.

Where else can I ask this question? Any other platforms?

I believe anyone who did that would be prosecuted for murder.

 

[Rachel74]

I believe anyone who did that would be prosecuted for murder.

Same could be said for the person who sent it?

 

[Barelyhuman]

I'm no legal expert, but I think there would be a difference between selling drugs to someone and actually administering them. Especially if the person were to die. Either way, it would be asking someone to take a huge risk.

 

[Rachel74]

I'm no legal expert, but I think there would be a difference between selling drugs to someone and actually administering them. Especially if the person were to die. Either way, it would be asking someone to take a huge risk.

You are totally right. I didn't think of that's apologies to the OP.

 

[Ssrejisser]

[QUOTE="Rachel74, post: 432485, member: 10382"]
[USER=3804]@gingerplum is a nurse so she could help you if she knows. Or anyone who shoots up H. Sadly I can't help you but someone will.

Is it the taste putting you off?

I don't know... I just can't do it myself. Otherwise I would have already.

I believe anyone who did that would be prosecuted for murder.

I hate that it's like that. I just need another person by my side. I don't know what to do. I wrote this because maybe there is someone already helping people like that? I don't know where to look. I guess this person would know they could be in big trouble, yet I keep hoping someone like that exists.

 

[Barelyhuman]

I do understand how terrifying it is, I have N myself and plan to take it soon. But you can't expect anyone to risk life in prison. There is a group that will be with you if you use an exit bag, but they won't help you to hook it up or turn on the gas. I'm sorry you're suffering so much

 

[I’vehadenough]

Who is the exit bag group?

 

[Barelyhuman]

I think it's called Final Exit Network (FEN)

 

[Blackjack]

I couldn't drink the N (liquid form) yet, and I think not much will change. I am sick and I need help to have someone administer N in me, or hook up the IV and I would release the medication myself. Please help, in any way you can. Every day is more pointless. I am in the US.

Where else can I ask this question? Any other platforms?

Have you tried to drink it and couldn't?

 

[sleepy dog]

I couldn't drink the N (liquid form) yet, and I think not much will change.

You have said you want somebody to do the IV for you. Then you say you need another person by your side and don't know what to do. I feel horrible if you are genuinely confused. Please decide what you want. Nobody can help you if they don't know what you are really asking for.

 

[Ssrejisser]

I don't want any trouble for the person who would help me. I just wanted to know if somebody like that exists, who knows all the risks and still would do it. And where I could find them.
I heard of Final Exit. In my case they can't help unfortunately.

 

[I’vehadenough]

I think it's called Final Exit Network (FEN)

Thank you

 

[gingerplum]

@gingerplum is a nurse so she could help you if she knows. Or anyone who shoots up H. Sadly I can't help you but someone will.

Is it the taste putting you off?

I couldn't drink the N (liquid form) yet, and I think not much will change. I am sick and I need help to have someone administer N in me, or hook up the IV and I would release the medication myself. Please help, in any way you can. Every day is more pointless. I am in the US.

Where else can I ask this question? Any other platforms?

Ok. Yes, unfortunately, as others have said, someone setting that up for you puts them at serious legal risk. If you find someone willing to help you, make sure you leave a note stating clearly that you are the sole person responsible for the set-up and infusion.

I think the volume of the N is too large for an IV "push;" that is, I think you'd pass out before you were able to inject all of it. I mean, even if it's only 4 oz total, there's not a syringe big enough.

So, the only option is an IV drip set up. I'm sure there are videos (probably for nursing students) on YouTube; watch a couple of demos, and if you still want to do it, I'll be happy to walk you thru it.

I can even tell you exactly what supplies you'll need.

Fair warning, though: you're still going to have to stick yourself, with either a butterfly needle or an IV catheter. You're also going to need a 250 mL bag of saline solution to put the N in; that's what will flow thru the IV line.

This really isn't something that's a beginner skill level, but it can be done. Still, it's an awful lot of trouble to go to for something you could drink.

I guess if the taste is just completely unpalatable, you could drop an NG (nasogastric) tube to your stomach via your nose or your mouth and push the N in with a Toomey syringe, but the biggest ones are only 60 mL, so you'd hafta be quick.

 

[Blackjack]

@gingerplum you so smart.

 

[gingerplum]

@gingerplum you so smart.

I knew there was something I liked about you.

 

[Ssrejisser]

Ok. Yes, unfortunately, as others have said, someone setting that up for you puts them at serious legal risk. If you find someone willing to help you, make sure you leave a note stating clearly that you are the sole person responsible for the set-up and infusion.

I think the volume of the N is too large for an IV "push;" that is, I think you'd pass out before you were able to inject all of it. I mean, even if it's only 4 oz total, there's not a syringe big enough.

So, the only option is an IV drip set up. I'm sure there are videos (probably for nursing students) on YouTube; watch a couple of demos, and if you still want to do it, I'll be happy to walk you thru it.

I can even tell you exactly what supplies you'll need.

Fair warning, though: you're still going to have to stick yourself, with either a butterfly needle or an IV catheter. You're also going to need a 250 mL bag of saline solution to put the N in; that's what will flow thru the IV line.

This really isn't something that's a beginner skill level, but it can be done. Still, it's an awful lot of trouble to go to for something you could drink.

I guess if the taste is just completely unpalatable, you could drop an NG (nasogastric) tube to your stomach via your nose or your mouth and push the N in with a Toomey syringe, but the biggest ones are only 60 mL, so you'd hafta be quick.

Thank you for your detailed answer.

 

[k75]

you could drop an NG (nasogastric) tube to your stomach via your nose or your mouth and push the N in with a Toomey syringe, but the biggest ones are only 60 mL, so you'd hafta be quick.

Off the subject, but man, those tubes are the worst hell! I can't even imagine putting one in yourself. I had to have a couple through the nose, and even though I agreed and knew it was coming, had to be held down and forced because it was so awful. Never want to do that again!

 

[Enabran255]

Off the subject, but man, those tubes are the worst hell! I can't even imagine putting one in yourself. I had to have a couple through the nose, and even though I agreed and knew it was coming, had to be held down and forced because it was so awful. Never want to do that again!

Some years ago my brother almost died from CO poisoning from a fire that had started in his place. He was in the ICU for a couple weeks, and had those tubes put in. They permanently damaged his throat in some way, so now he always feels he has to clear his throat periodically. I can't imagine trying to do that to myself.

 

[gingerplum]

Some years ago my brother almost died from CO poisoning from a fire that had started in his place. He was in the ICU for a couple weeks, and had those tubes put in. They permanently damaged his throat in some way, so now he always feels he has to clear his throat periodically. I can't imagine trying to do that to myself.

If he was in the ICU with respiratory distress, he had an endotracheal tube in order to breathe on the ventilator.
ET tubes are bigger, and they can damage throat tissue and vocal cords. Trust me, it wasn't an NG tube.

Off the subject, but man, those tubes are the worst hell! I can't even imagine putting one in yourself. I had to have a couple through the nose, and even though I agreed and knew it was coming, had to be held down and forced because it was so awful. Never want to do that again!

Did they use the kind with barbed wire on you? Always pay extra for the smooth lubricated ones, they're so worth it.

 

[k75]

Did they use the kind with barbed wire on you? Always pay extra for the smooth lubricated ones, they're so worth it.

It might as well have had barbed wire. Stinging, burning, and feeling gagged from the inside... I couldn't tolerate it at all and I forced them to remove it after about half an hour. Hurt just as much coming out. It was so weird. I knew what was going on and am not usually a troublesome patient, but my body went into panic mode and fought the nurses. My head had to be held still.

 

[gingerplum]

It might as well have had barbed wire. Stinging, burning, and feeling gagged from the inside... I couldn't tolerate it at all and I forced them to remove it after about half an hour. Hurt just as much coming out. It was so weird. I knew what was going on and am not usually a troublesome patient, but my body went into panic mode and fought the nurses. My head had to be held still.

I believe you, I'm just teasing because that's a pretty extreme reaction.

 

[k75]

I believe you, I'm just teasing because that's a pretty extreme reaction.

It was extreme, but the nurses said I wasn't the first to react that way. I was also pretty sick at the time, so maybe that had something to do with it? Regardless, I put ng tubes on my never again list and never looked back. LOL

 

[Enabran255]

If he was in the ICU with respiratory distress, he had an endotracheal tube in order to breathe on the ventilator.
ET tubes are bigger, and they can damage throat tissue and vocal cords. Trust me, it wasn't an NG tube.

Yea, he was on a ventilator. I didn't know they were so different. I learned something new today.