How bad is it to travel by bus from home? CTB

[Wunderkind]

Hi everybody
Asking for my situation
Can I send to CTB from home? How much does it hurt loved ones?
I don't have small children or teenagers in my house, all are over 18 years old.

 

[PinkSakura]

You're planning to CTB in the same home that your loved ones live in? Meaning they'll discover you? It will hurt more if they discover you. CTB will hurt them regardless

 

[FuneralCry]

I think that when planning a location to ctb, the thing that would be important to me is choosing somewhere where there is no risk of being found too early meaning that the attempt fails. But anyway the reality is that we will all have to die somewhere, someday even know it inevitably hurts those who are left behind, but grief and loss are an inevitable consequence of bringing life here and nobody should have to stay here a second longer than they wish to. Deciding on the best location for your ctb depends on what feels right.

 

[Wunderkind]

You're planning to CTB in the same home that your loved ones live in? Meaning they'll discover you? It will hurt more if they discover you. CTB will hurt them regardless

I think that when planning a location to ctb, the thing that would be important to me is choosing somewhere where there is no risk of being found too early meaning that the attempt fails. But anyway the reality is that we will all have to die somewhere, someday even know it inevitably hurts those who are left behind, but grief and loss are an inevitable consequence of bringing life here and nobody should have to stay here a second longer than they wish to. Deciding on the best location for your ctb depends on what feels right.

Yes, I have no other place. My method is fast, I will have enough time.

 

[nifii]

I'm gonna CTB at home as well. I'm gonna do it in a room with a room in it. So i can put a paper on the second door that my family has to call the ambulance/police before opening. They likely wont do that and just enter but yeah. I don't have the energy anymore to search for another place and i live in a very crowded country so its also hard to find places where u can be alone for multible hours.

 

[NoLightRemains]

A key component of my plan is minimizing chances someone finds my body without warning. Currently I want to use a hotel with some warning signs posted in the entryway and sheets covering the entry into the room.

It's possible I end up creating a similar setup at home, but I live with family and there is a high chance they ignore the signs. I feel like I'd just be making the grieving process worse and adding to the trauma.

 

[Interloper]

I'm done planning, I've no energy left. Any time the house empties for 10+ hours, that will be a window. I have essentially everything I need within arms reach.

 

[Wunderkind]

A key component of my plan is minimizing chances someone finds my body without warning. Currently I want to use a hotel with some warning signs posted in the entryway and sheets covering the entry into the room.

It's possible I end up creating a similar setup at home, but I live with family and there is a high chance they ignore the signs. I feel like I'd just be making the grieving process worse and adding to the trauma.

You're right. I don't understand why people mourn. What will it change? Why not just remember someone with a kind word.
It's complicated. Thanks for your thoughts, I am now extremely puzzled by the question in the thread header.

 

[Forever Sleep]

You're right. I don't understand why people mourn. What will it change? Why not just remember someone with a kind word.
It's complicated. Thanks for your thoughts, I am now extremely puzzled by the question in the thread header.

I think mourning is for the main part a selfish process but a natural and important one. When you lose someone you were close to, you essentially lose a part of yourself along with them- the way they perceived and interacted with you was unique. You have your memories- for as long as they last but you can end up feeling very lonely when a loved one goes. No one is going to understand or interact with you the way they did. Plus- you miss them for who they were- that's surely natural.

Of course- it's important to remember them with a kind word but I think it's kind of too logical and a bit cold to think they won't also be shocked, miss you and feel sad. We're emotional creatures after all. I'm not trying to guilt trip you by the way. I'm just trying to describe my take on mourning.

It wasn't exactly my Dad's fault but when my Mum died (when I was 3,) for a very long time, he found it too hard to talk about her and too painful to mourn for her. It hadn't entirely occured to me but when I saw a college therapist in my 30's (mature student,) she identified that maybe I'd never properly grieved for my Mum. I think acknowledging and allowing a grieving process is actually pretty important in trying to accept a loss. That includes all the emotions that go with it- even including anger and sadness.

As for CTB at home around your family- personally, I would do everything possible to avoid that. I feel kind of sorry for hotel staff coming across a dead body. (Although- you can at least put up a sign to try and prevent them from entering the room.) Still- I think that's far more preferable than your family seeing you.

Obviously- I don't know you or your families experiences with death and mourning people. Maybe It affects you differently. I've only seen my Grandma dead (from old age and long term illness.) It wasn't exactly traumatising but it wasn't good either. Her jaw was unnaturaly wide open and I couldn't get over how cold she was. It's a very strange feeling. That person you loved so much is still there in body- although it's already looking like something out of a horror film but they aren't anymore. We were expecting that death also. She had been very ill for years and it was in a hospital.

Still- ultimately- it has to be up to you. I expect some people are in situations where they simply have no other choice- in which case- I guess all you can do- is like other people have said- at least try and warn them with a sign to call authorities rather than to discover you themselves.

As I say- just my take on it. You might find it ridiculous and over emotional. I guess we all react differently to things. You likely have more idea on how resilient your family are. I wish you all the best- whatever you decide.

 

[Wunderkind]

I think mourning is for the main part a selfish process but a natural and important one. When you lose someone you were close to, you essentially lose a part of yourself along with them- the way they perceived and interacted with you was unique. You have your memories- for as long as they last but you can end up feeling very lonely when a loved one goes. No one is going to understand or interact with you the way they did. Plus- you miss them for who they were- that's surely natural.

Of course- it's important to remember them with a kind word but I think it's kind of too logical and a bit cold to think they won't also be shocked, miss you and feel sad. We're emotional creatures after all. I'm not trying to guilt trip you by the way. I'm just trying to describe my take on mourning.

It wasn't exactly my Dad's fault but when my Mum died (when I was 3,) for a very long time, he found it too hard to talk about her and too painful to mourn for her. It hadn't entirely occured to me but when I saw a college therapist in my 30's (mature student,) she identified that maybe I'd never properly grieved for my Mum. I think acknowledging and allowing a grieving process is actually pretty important in trying to accept a loss. That includes all the emotions that go with it- even including anger and sadness.

As for CTB at home around your family- personally, I would do everything possible to avoid that. I feel kind of sorry for hotel staff coming across a dead body. (Although- you can at least put up a sign to try and prevent them from entering the room.) Still- I think that's far more preferable than your family seeing you.

Obviously- I don't know you or your families experiences with death and mourning people. Maybe It affects you differently. I've only seen my Grandma dead (from old age and long term illness.) It wasn't exactly traumatising but it wasn't good either. Her jaw was unnaturaly wide open and I couldn't get over how cold she was. It's a very strange feeling. That person you loved so much is still there in body- although it's already looking like something out of a horror film but they aren't anymore. We were expecting that death also. She had been very ill for years and it was in a hospital.

Still- ultimately- it has to be up to you. I expect some people are in situations where they simply have no other choice- in which case- I guess all you can do- is like other people have said- at least try and warn them with a sign to call authorities rather than to discover you themselves.

As I say- just my take on it. You might find it ridiculous and over emotional. I guess we all react differently to things. You likely have more idea on how resilient your family are. I wish you all the best- whatever you decide.

Many thanks for such a detailed answer. That's right, in fact, 2 adequate places are apartments for rent, or your own house. I thought long and hard about CTB in the car. It's too dangerous. The street, even if it is near the city, is not too reliable. In our society, in my subjective opinion, there is a misperception of death. CTB method that does not hurt anyone is not the worst option in general.

Thank you very much for your support, for me now it is very important.